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SPECIALAGENTGIBBS AND SEDNET1 FROM OOM&F CHAT 07/17/13 EVENING
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[..SpecialAgentGibbs] HERE IS WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD ABOUT EXCHANGING A SMALL AMOUNT TO PROVIDE FUNDS FOR RESERVES PAYOFF, AND OTHER THINGS....
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] IF YOU GO ANYWHERE TO EXCHANGE, THERE WILL BE A FINCEN FORM FILES WHICH TRACKS YOUR EXCHANGE ACTIVITY BY YOUR SSN.
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] YOU WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE ONE SHOT, AND ONE SHOT ONLY!
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] ANY EXCHANGE IN YOUR NAME (YOUR SSN), WILL RESULT IN YOU BEING EXCLUDED FROM USING THE 800# FOR A SECOND EXCHANGE....
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[..SpecialAgentGibbs] IT HAS BEEN SAID THAT IT WILL ALSO APPLY THE SAME FOR ANY VND EXCHANGE....
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] WE CANNOT VERIFY OR DEBUNK THIS....
IF YOU SO CHOOSE TO TAKE THE RISK, BE WELL AWARE THAT YOU MAY BE EXCLUDED FROM THE PREFERRED EXCHANGE RATE WITH WELLS FARGO.
[blessing] ..SpecialAgentGibbs ..I'm sorry I'm sure this question has been asked but does that go for exchanging some vnd at another bank also? Will we lose our Dinar rate with WF?
[.SEDNET1] blessing HOWEVER...that does not preclude you from using KIN or a "trusted someone" to do the small exchange IF you need travel, or walking around money!
[rvnow1] Sednet1 SpecialAgent Gibbs Do you have any idea what kinds of stipulations WF will put on their exchanges? Like length of ttime we must keep it on deposit? Or % of original deposit that they will require be left with them?
[.SEDNET1] rvnow1 THAT will not be known until we are at the bank.
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] IT HAS ALSO BEEN SAID THAT THE SAME WILL APPLY TO MARRIED COUPLE WHO HAVE FILED JOINT TAXES IN THE PAST.
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED WHAT MAY HAPPEN IF YOU ATTEMPT TO EXCHANGE YOURSELF, BEFORE YOUR APPOINTMENT WITH WELLS FARGO!!!
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] I SUGGEST THAT YOU USE A TRUSTED FRIEND OR, FAMILY MEMBER (NON SPOUSAL) TO EXCHANGE A SMALL AMOUNT TO FUND THE PAYOFF OF RESERVES & OTHER NEEDED CAPITAL EXPENDITURES....
[rvnow1] Sednet1 I wouldn't think they would buy our dinar at a higher rate without some stipulations, would they?
[.SEDNET1] rvnow1 WF is the "BROKER" for their client who is China. Again, what the heck does it matter if that preferred rate brings you multi-millions more than any other bank?
[.SEDNET1] Seems to me THAT is just an equitable situation!
[Texastwc] ..SpecialAgentGibbs but we should be able to CE any other currency other than IQD or VND right and it will not effect the group deal?
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] Texastwc I COULD NOT EVEN BEGIN TO SPECULATE ON OTHER CURRENCIES
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] SOMEONE MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT JUST EXCHANGING WITH A DEALER....
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] ARE YOU KIDDING ME???
[dumbest] ..SpecialAgentGibbs how about if we pay the dealer with dinar?
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] dumbest GOOD LUCK WITH THAT
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] WE ARE EXPLAINING HOW THIS IS GOING TO WORK, BASED ON THE INFO WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN....
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] WHY DO SOME SIMPLY REFUSE TO LISTEN, AND TRY TO BEAT THE SYSTEM???
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] THE SOLUTION IS SOOOO VERY SIMPLE, WHY COMPLICATE THINGS?
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] IF YOU SO CHOOSE NOT TO LISTEN TO COMMON SENSE SUGGESTIONS, AND END UP COSTING YOURSELF POTENTIALLY MILLIONS IN LOST FUNDS....THAT IS YOUR CHOICE
[kansaschick] I guess I don't understand why exchanging the VND would affect the group rate for the IQD. It is my understanding that there is no special group rate or special arrangements for the VND, so why would they care if we exchanged a currency other than the IQD?
[.SEDNET1] kansaschick ummmmm FinCen, SSN Tracking, You really wanna chance it? we are giving you options. Entirely up to you to use them or not! Good Luck!
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] THE HORSE DIED DAYS AGO...PLEASE PUT DOWN THE CLUBS
[gloryseeds] Do we need to get a FinCen ourselves or is it provided on the bank or dealers side?
[.SEDNET1] gloryseeds Bank.
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] I SEE I'M JUST BEATING MY HEAD INTO A STONE WALL HERE.....
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] DO WHATEVER YOU WISH FOR YOUR EXCHANGE, I WISH YOU ALL THE VERY BEST.
[.SEDNET1] What is it that you peeps DO NOT understand about the fact YOU AE IN CHARGE! IT IS YOUR MONEY!
[mooney] somewhere in the new testiment it say"for the love of money is the root of all evil"...just sayin to see if I am correct...anyone with any debate?(i just cannot find it now...think it id in the 4 books
[.SEDNET1] mooney yes.. "the LOVE of money" (not money in and of its self) IS the root of all evil.
[kvcrew] .SEDNET1 obviously it is not entirely up to me or I would not ask.....will they send them or will we have to go pick them up???? I do not appreciate your sarcasm when a question is asked. Some of us have not been here for years....
[.SEDNET1] kvcrew Who's Money is it? Yours or theirs? Whomever you are dealing with may very well have a rigid policy for that "pick-up" or how they would deliver it. I ay again. YOU ARE IN CHARGE!
[.SEDNET1] You have all had ample time to plan this out, inclusive of "paying off, and picking up your reserves. I am sorry some do not have anyone they think they can trust. Might be a little late, but never too late to try? WE certainly do NOT know what the various dealers policies may be, or what they will become. Spoon Feeding is over,. Time to test those wings and learn to FLY!
[rmjgold] ..SpecialAgentGibbs Why is it if you exchange VND thats already being traded, why would WF pentalize you with group rate?
[.SEDNET1] rmjgold Fin Cen, SSN Tracking, You really wanna chance it? Multiple option have been given. use them or not. and be blessed.
[rmjgold] .SEDNET1 Bank I talked too said no FinCen required
[.SEDNET1] rmjgold anything over 10K it is required. They lied, or are completely ignorant.
[rmjgold] .SEDNET1 Bank I talked too said no FinCen required
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] rmjgold It's a federal law
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] I STRONGLY SUGGEST THAT IF YOU HAVE RESERVES WITH A DEALER, YOU INQUIRE AS TO THEIR POLICIES FOR RETRIEVING YOUR RESERVES.
THEY ARE GOING TO TRY TO TALK YOU INTO EXCHANGING WITH THEM (LOSING POSSIBLE MILLIONS).
THEY WILL TELL YOU THEY WILL MAIL YOU YOUR DINAR BUT, PRESS THE ISSUE AND YOU WILL FIND OUT THAT THEY WILL NOT!
MEETING WITH THEM AT SECURED LOCATIONS (AT THEIR CONVINIENCE) OR, PRIVATE COURIER SERVICE (SCHEDULE PERMITTING) MAY BE YOUR ONLY OPTIONS!
WHATEVER THEY PROMISE TO DO FOR YOU, GET IT IN WRITING!!!!
[.SEDNET1] i just walked away for a few to gather my thoughts. I am appalled at the lack of understanding, or the deliberate refusal by so many to take into consideration, actually analyze it for themselves, do some research on their own.
I am even further astonished at the number of peeps here who continue to ask the same lame questions, YES I REMEMBER YOU! and get the same accurate answers and still do not get it.
Family.... We have a forum for a very specific reason: Storage of Information. IT IS FREE! yet so many refuse to invest any of their precious time there, and instead WASTE our precious time with repetitive questions.
I am saddened to come to the realization that so many, will just "never get it" and will what if themselves right back into poverty, or worse.
This is a free site. Information, the best we know, as up to date as possible has been freely shared, with freely donated time from me and all the mods, and still it is not enough.
WELL HEAR THIS: NONE repeat NONE of you are entitled to a continuing spoon feeding session.
No more holding your hands, INSTRYCTIONS! FORUM IS CURRENT! The information is provided has been so watered down a freaking box of hair should understand it! I Love you, But I am full of this continuing refusal to learn.
FURTHER! When and IF the information we have been sharing for whatever reason changes we have been quick to share and try to explain. still, seemingly to no avail what so ever to so many
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] BEING AT THE MERCY OF THEIR SCHEDULES MAY NOT WORK WELL IF YOU HAVE A CE APPOINTMENT TO BE AT!!!!!
[..SpecialAgentGibbs] BEST GET THESE LOGISTICAL ISSUES WORKED OUT IN ADVANCE FOLKS OR, YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF SITTING IN THE DUST.