Charlie & Dinar Speculator Member Chat
The Rothschilds & the Central Bank of Iraq Part 1
Charlie: well i want to enter into a long conversation about the central bank of iraq
tudor: the floor is yours
Charlie: but i realized i really needed to start at the beginning of central banking
Charlie: it's very exciting, much more than it is today
Charlie: we aren't going to go into the snore stuff but i do want to concentrate on the rothschild's
48hotrod: sounds good to me Charlie - that way newbies to the info will hopefully catch on and understand and the seasoned ones will get a refresher course
Charlie: you see, what is going on in central banks today really started with them
Charlie: yes that's exactly it hotrod
Charlie: napoleon's great quote once he realized what bankers did to him
Charlie: "One has only to consider what loans can lead to in order to realize their danger...
Charlie: the hand that gives is above the hand that takes...
Charlie: Money has no motherland...
Charlie: financiers are without patriotism and without decency
Charlie: their sole object is gain"
tudor: how true
Charlie: this is a 10 ton weight of truth!
Sweets: I'm with 'ya, Charlie
48hotrod: 10 ton weight of power as well and difficult to move or stop
Charlie: it's very much applicable today and when we get done with central banking, and banking in general, you will see that this truth applies today
Charlie: you will also be keener to your dinars and what they are and where they can go
Charlie: we need to learn the banker moves, from who else?
Charlie: the bankers themselves
Charlie: you will see how some people were fooled into giving up their prosperity because of a FALSE FLAG of all things
Charlie: ok it was a small one, but it was a move the fooled so many and made one man so very rich
Charlie: it helped launch the rothschild family into riches that surpass all then and even to this day
Charlie: i don't want to be rothschild rich
Sweets: Are you taling abut Rothchild
Charlie: but i don't want the rich to steal what i have, and i want to watch their moves to know where i ought to be
tudor: yes Sweets he is
Charlie: yes the Rothschild family - too rich to count their own money
Charlie: does anyone know anything about their history?
tudor: just that they are stinking rich
Sweets: I read the long article about Fed Reserve. Yes.
Charlie: very good
Charlie: Mayer Amschel Rothschild was born in Frankfurt
they were a jewish family. jews were forbidden by law to participate in most businesses or trade
Charlie: naturally, the did banking and money lending
Charlie: they put a red shield (rothschild) with an eagle on their business,
Charlie: Mayer learned from his father the secrets of banking - leveraging or multiplying money by a process known as fractional reserve lending
Sweets: That's the killer, right???
Charlie: fractional reserve lending started centuries before when goldsmiths issued notes or certificates to those who deposited their gold with them
Charlie: they had the means to secure the gold - the certificates were then traded like money
Charlie: lets call that the first currency
Charlie: goldsmiths realized that people weren't redeeming their certificates - less that 10% ever did
Charlie: the certificates stayed out on the streets
Charlie: they came up with a great idea! issue MORE certificates
Charlie: after all, few ever redeemed so no one would ever know
Charlie: soon there were more certificates in circulation than there was gold in their vaults
Charlie: ever see that before????
tudor: yes, look at our debt because of it
guardian: this began in the 1760s...correct?
tudor: USA debt that is
Charlie: smart gal
Charlie: and really no gold either, but that will be another story
Charlie: so on to the rothschilds
Charlie: mayer learned that loaning to govts and kings was much more profitable than loaning to individuals
Charlie: he was able to get bigger loans that were secured by the nations taxes
Charlie: two of the biggest problems our global economic system faces today is fractional banking and govt debt
Charlie: again, for another day
Charlie: mayer had 5 sons and sent them to major capitals of europe to open offices
Charlie: they realized that convincing a country to borrow was their most powerful tool once they borrowed, they became addicted to borrowing
Charlie: most don't realize that the negative affect of borrowing are not felt until years down the road when compounding interest made them political captives
Charlie: challenge the rothschild's and your loans would be called in with no new loans while your rivals would be given ample loans
Charlie: enter Prince William of Hesse-Kassel (germany)
Charlie: the wealthiest monarch in europe
Charlie: when war broke out with england and the colonies rothschild brokered a deal to send hessian soldiers to fight against americans
Charlie: they really don't teach us the financial side of history in history class so much
tudor: not like this
Charlie: in 1806 napoleon chased prince william into exile
Charlie: prince william sent 550,000 pounds to Mayer's son, Nathan, head of the london branch of the house of rothschild
Charlie: he asked him to buy british bonds
Charlie: Nathan said thank you very much and proceeded to lend money when wartime investment opportunities abounded!
Charlie: after Napoleon's 1st defeat in 1813, he was imprisoned on Elba
Charlie: Prince William returned home and summoned the Rothschilds demanding his money back
Charlie: Rothschilds returned his money with 8% which is what the bonds would have paid him - IF THEY HAD ACTUALLY INVESTED THEM SO.
Charlie: Rothschilds made a vast sum of money with William's money
Charlie: Napoleon rose to power again in the aftermath of the French Revolution. He opposed govt debt because he wanted to improve conditions in France
Charlie: again his famous quote:
Charlie: "One has only to consider what loans can lead to in order to realize their danger.. the hand that gives is above the hand that takes... Money has no motherland; financiers are without patriotism and without decency: their sole object is gain"
Charlie: He established and independent Bank of France and became its president. He wanted no govt debt, but France was broke. their treasury was emptied by the revolution
Charlie: Napoleon knew the rothschilds would not rest as long as he was in power unless it was mutually beneficial.
Charlie: He opened negotiations with England by threatening to invade Holland who had great debt with England.
Charlie: the british counter proposed
Charlie: lets go to war with America
Charlie: England gets the north
Charlie: France gets the south
Charlie: Napoleon would be called the King of America
Charlie: Napoleon thought he was getting a bad deal and made the plan public embrassing england and the rothschilds
Charlie: Napoleaon was now the rothschilds sworn enemy.
Charlie: He wanted to go on the offensive but needed money.
Charlie: Enter Plan B - April 30, 1803, he sold the louisiana territory to the United States
Charlie: for less than 3 cents an acre raising equivalent to 15 million dollars.
Charlie: a month later, england declared war on france
Charlie: Napoleon to invade britain - but it would never happen
Charlie: he conquered most of europe with his military genius
Charlie: he knew he had to establish puppets inside the rothschild strongholds, if he were to succeed.
Charlie: banking and war have gone hand and hand since
Charlie: the rothschilds developed a network of spies and couriers to smuggle gold bullion around europe to support napoleon's defeat
Charlie: the RED SHIELD allowed their couriers through most national checkpoints
Charlie: lets fast forward to 1815 waterloo -
Charlie: 300,000 men battled from 7 different nations
Charlie: napoleon vs the duke of wellington
Charlie: now this is where the slight of hand takes place folks
Charlie: train your eye to see the geopolitical moves to understand the banking moves better
Charlie: war is the game, but money is the shadow game
Charlie: nathan was ready to make money on the british stock market no matter which way the battle went
Charlie: but how? wasn't he funding the british?
Charlie: yes, if the brits lost, have an enormous debt to the rothschilds
Charlie: the value of their bonds would plummet
Charlie: if they won, how would he particularly gain?
Charlie: he had bonds, but could he make more?
Charlie: nathan needed to know the outcome of waterloo before everyone else
Charlie: he had spies and agents
Charlie: once it became obvious that france was going to lose, one of his agents rode to oostende in belgium to board a ship
Charlie: bad weather almost stopped him from crossing the english channel until he could convince a small boat to cross him for 2000 pounds
Charlie: that sucker made out big! but he did risk his life - the boat owner that is
Charlie: his agent made it across the channel and then rode into london
Charlie: a full day ahead of any other news
Charlie: armed with the knowledge that beef wellington beat king quiche, he was ready to make lots of money
Charlie: mind you that nathan was a bank
Charlie: he was about to become the bank of england though
Charlie: or own a lot of it!
Charlie: own the bonds and you own it
Charlie: with knowledge in hand like a financial sword rothschild stood on the market floor
Charlie: remember that knowledge is always the tip of the spear
Charlie: everyone knew he had the most bonds of all
Charlie: he looked dejected and started selling
Charlie: rumors swirled that britain was defeated
Charlie: WHAT A MOVE!
Charlie: THINK ABOUT IT!
Charlie: in the art of war, you look weak when you are strong and strong when you are weak
Charlie: REMEMBER THAT!
Charlie: everyone started selling off and the prices dropped quickly
Charlie: a stampede!
Charlie: in one quick move, rothschild reversed his position
Charlie: AND BOUGHT THE ENTIRE MARKET
Charlie: FOR PENNIES ON THE DOLLAR!
tudor: very slick move
Charlie: in just a few hours he bought england's entire debt for a fraction of it's worth
Charlie: he later bragged that in 17 years, he had increased his original 20,000 pound stake given to him by has father by 2500 times
Charlie: $50,000,000 POUNDS!
Charlie: there are so many lessons embedded in this story it's hard to begin
Charlie: through fractional reserve banking the rothschilds grew unbelievably wealthy
Charlie: by mid 1800's they dominated all european banking
Charlie: they became the wealthiest family in the world
Charlie: here is the kicker: most nobility became indebted to them - effective taking their power and control
tudor: all thru deceit
Charlie: very much so
Charlie: he was very shrewd and was always thinking step ahead of others
Charlie: you might say, what's that got to do with us
Charlie: let me first start by saying our forefathers saw this
Charlie: they knew the power of bankers
Charlie: they knew that money is needed to retain power
Charlie: our central banking system was created in 1913
Charlie: after a few failed attempts
Charlie: it was a template of the bank of england
Charlie: a template used through out history thereafter
Charlie: the central bank of iraq was literally the very first thing the Coalition Provisional Authority set up
Charlie: boots were still hot and so were the guns
Charlie: September 19, 2003
Charlie: from the CBI site: The law brings Iraq’s legal framework for banking in line with international standards, and seeks to promote confidence in the banking system by establishing a safe, sound, competitive and accessible banking system
Charlie: keyword: confidence
Charlie: rothschild didn't need confidence
Charlie: maybe confidence in himself
Charlie: but in a fractional banking system, confidence is needed
Charlie: small banks scattered around the country are vulnerable to bank runs
Charlie: central banks were made to avert this and to maintain stability
Charlie: no sooner the fed was established, we had war and then a depression
Charlie: and our dollars have never retained their value, just look at the statistics, the dollar has lost 98% of it's value since 1913
Charlie: central banks have been given a very big responsibility
Charlie: the CBI was given a monumental task
Charlie: starting with so much debt they would never get out from underneath
Charlie: debt removed
Charlie: the next 11 years were spent stabilizing the economy with what was intended to be an "in house currency"
Charlie: it was going to be a task, but with a decline in violence, it was manageable
Charlie: they took everything into account
Charlie: except us
Charlie: some theories are that they printed dinar and allowed them to leave the country so that they could later lop and make money off our backs
Charlie: that makes no mathematical or economic sense
Charlie: nathan rothschild would never have done it,
Charlie: yes he was clever enough to do anything but this would make no economic sense
Charlie: i will detail that out in another session
Charlie: how many times have we heard, the lop is coming?
tudor: way too many times
Charlie: how many?
tudor: I personally do NOT believe it
Charlie: considering the current conditions geopolitically, there is no need
Charlie: there is a big reset button that is about to happen in the world
Charlie: no one can say when, but the smartest people, one by one, are saying it's coming
Charlie: did anyone listen to david stockman?
tudor: sorry, not yet
Charlie: that's ok but you really should
Charlie: david stockman isn't some wannabe ecnomomic guru conspiracy theorist
Charlie: the entire financial system is wound so tight
Charlie: he calls it a coil spring
Charlie: the pieces will land everywhere
Charlie: the high will be brought low, but i think the low can be brought high
Charlie: wealth never disappears, unless it's fake wealth
Charlie: iraq has wealth that won't dissappear
tudor: I will try to watch him tomorrow
Charlie: it's called oil
Charlie: and if you really want to see the value of oil you need to see what's coming
Charlie: these are very entertaining to watch and not long at all
Charlie: 18 minutes long
Charlie: that one 19 minutes
Charlie: okay that one is 27 minutes long
Charlie: 10 minutes for that one
Charlie: how much does that add up to?
Charlie: 75 minutes?
Charlie: if you've been in this investment as long as i have, that's not very long
Charlie: you will have more knowledge on oil you could ever have imagined
Charlie: these videos are awesome!
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