DavidM: No matter what the hour, no matter what the cause, not matter what the darkness appears to bring .... we still MUST believe. You see, there's more to life than just what we can see....
We are almost there ... just BELIEVE!!!!!
[ALREADY BLESSED] ON THE PHONE WITH TONY....NO BLAST UNTIL SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT HAPPENS...WE ARE GATHERING INTEL ALL DAY EVERY DAY....SO JUST WAITING TO SEE WHAT COMES IN
Kate2973: Is it just me or has everything been eerily quiet this morning? Could this be the calm before the storm?
Isa52bc: I don't know, but here is my email from the Universe today!
The Universe If you go first and reach for the fruit; I'll shake the tree.
Do a little dance; I'll add some music.
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Move in the direction of your dreams, even though at first nothing seems to happen; I'll align the stars, butter your bread, connect the dots, trim the hedge, move some mountains, float the boat, and see you at the ball.Metaphorically. Except for seeing you at the ball..........If you go first,~ The Universe
Middledebo: I think there is probably not much to talk about now that this is totally tied to the debt ceiling negotiations until that is actually negotiated. Still a work in process last time I checked the news.
[rocknman] "Everything is changing. People are taking their comedians seriously and the politicians as a joke." —Will Rogers
popeye: Randy Koonce's contact in the IMF, said to be looking for something on thursday into friday
[popeye] thats it :) .....I hope he is right this time ;)
[wycoffjul] popeye Wow that's big for Randy to come out and say!
[TxIslandGirl] popeye :) That is good news coming from Randy K. Thanks!
[wycoffjul] TxIslandGirl I agree!! He usually doesn't let much unless he is really is sure of something
[popeye] well I think its good news too, and hopefully it will coincide with Tony intel this week! :)
[TxIslandGirl] wycoffjul his timline is always further out.
[funkitty] is it just me or has it been super quiet today? We are holding our collective breaths
TrapDoor: Part of what is needed for the GCR is for the dollar to suddenly crash and use the GCR as a way to "save the day" so that the US economy AND the world are saved from a currency meltdown from the current world reserve currency (the USD).
The 15th is the next currency auction and if no one buys, or "they" buy only at a hugely reduced rate, we'll, there you go, the manufactured USD meltdown needed to "hide" the GCR in plain sight.
But, "Can this really happen?" you may ask. Well, it already started! The next currency auction for the USD is the 15th. Here we go people, this thing is right around the corner!
Hiding this in plain sight and happening before our eyes. Good stuff!
Dash RipRock: I like your line of thinking, however lots of us have long believed the auctions are fake and manually loaded. On one occasion they showed an auction with an outrageous amount being traded with 28 participating banks. At that time only 23 banks were allowed to participate. Glitch???
A short time later they went in and changed the numbers (to cover their butt) to reflect 18 participating banks. All I'm saying is don't use the auctions as any type of a barometer in this fiasco. But I do agree, until we reach the Currency Cliff, we won't see an RV.
TrapDoor: I am completely with you on the ability to manipulate this. That is why it is so perfect to help set up what we need to help this "pass through to the light". …. IF it was absulutely a reflection of curernt world currencies and their relative desirability and stability as a reserve currency, then it would be harder to enable "them" to do what they need to do in playing with the USD. The can synthetically lower it without having to completely crash it.
This is just a tool to further help them hide this in plain sight. No?
I see the 15th as "the beginning of the end" of the dollar (partially manufactured) as the world reserve currency, then you roll in the budget and debt ceiling "crisis" as further damage to the economy/currency, and BOOM GOES THE DYNOMITE, something saves the day! Most people won't care what it is as long as it worked.
The beautiful thing about this is that there is no need to really go over the line to default as you can "frame" the panic up front by damaging the currency (USD) and "stop" it before it gets bad.
Dash RipRock: Agreed. It's all about the 'show'. They need to show that it's broke. Because if it ain't broke, there's no reason to 'fix' it. That's why I said that I agreed with Trapdoors scenario, but I wouldn't base anything to support a theory based on what I believe are manually loaded, long time fake, made for tv auctions.
That's also why the previous two years (right around this same time) they came to agreements prior to the Fiscal Cliff/Debt Ceiling decisions and didn't go through with a shutdown. Because they weren't read to release this thing. So IMO this semi default shutdown made for tv movie is the best thing that ever could have happened. For us anyway.
I believe they already had a decision made, a solution in place long before they ever decided to shut the town down. Now all we need is to grab another bucket of popcorn, play a bit more of the waiting game and hope like heck they slide this RV in the side door.
JjHall: why is a crash of the U$D required?
i m not seeing this as a required step
really makes no diff in overall plans if it crashes, stays same or increases....
please tell me how my thinking is wrong
Trapdoor: First of all, this is my thinking, my opinion and my puzzle I'm putting together. Take it or leave it.
Even Tony is alluding to the fact that the USG wants to keep this as much on the down low as possible. Just look at the emergence of the NDAs. They have to have a reason to do the RV/GCR in order to hide it in plain sight. (see above post). They don't want to just do it and have all kinds of sudden wealth millionaires running around.
It could really get ugly. I know at least five people I am very close to that will never speak to me again when we RV.
It is sad, but they will take their frustration out on our relationship as friends. People in my profession do not like to be proven wrong and this would be the ultimate of wrongness. I was unable to "convince" them how real this is and they have dug into the Scam stories. One even keeps telling me, "That's not how currency works". Well, at least not the way it used to work. Only Jesus could make the blind see.
On the 17th, the US will have to pay a bunch of bonds, IN USD. If all of a sudden, the USD, based on the devaluation in the auction market (on the 15th), is paying 60% (or whatever % lower you choose) of that obligation to their creditors as a relative worth to the creditors own currency and agreements... NASA we have a problem. This will make a lot of banks and countries "unhappy" and "feel" cheated (remember, this is a show to an end).
Independent of the debt ceiling being raised/extended or not, this then creates a financial crisis that has to be addressed to keep all of our financial partners "happy". Remember, the US really is too big to fail, and if we do, we take EVERYONE down with us. In order to "fix" this, we need to be able to either increase the value of the dollar to where it was to pay off equal value of what we borrowed (which will not happen as they are intentionally lowering it in order to do the GCR/RV), or create an enormous amount of wealth in some fund that can suddenly cover and pay these debts (and much, much more).
Do we all remember just last week the changes made to the Government/USTs equity/currency/commodity funds? This is where the multi-trillions of Dinar are being held. BAM, do the GCR/RV and now, even at 3:1, the financial worries of the US, and everyone else, are fixed. A huge pot of non-appropriated funds sitting there for this and future administrations to spend. Mo Money, Mo Money, Mo Money (I used to LOVE In Living Color).
It would be easy to talk about the devalue in the auctions and the "need" to reset all world currencies at the same time and blur the line in this scenario. Once this is pushed out there framed like this, they go public with the rates and we get lost in the shuffle while the talking heads talk about how amazing the fix was. They don't even have to be specific about WHAT currencies fixed the problem, just that it was fixed "based on previous UST holdings".
I am sure that it is possible that the privileged people are cashing out, especially since they already have this mapped out and have to make it happen. The more that cash out ahead of time, the more locked in to coninuing down the path and that is GOOD for us. The more international deals brokered on this the better for us (remember France, a member of the Paris Club, announcing a few months ago that, "OOPS! We are not bankrupt after all. Ho Ho Ho, Pierre." This may not be exactly how it will play out, but watch the news and look for the good stuff coming our way! It is right there, hidden in front of our noses!
I honestly believe that we are ready and probably at the banks by Thursday or Friday of next week. There is just too much on the line to not do this now and I don't want to think of the ramifications if they don't finally pull the trigger on this. There really is a fianancial crisis forming as the USD fiat currency system's clock will or has run out (average life expectancy of a fiat currency is 27 years, few ever make it past 42 years and some have only lasted a month. Here is a good read.
). Now the question is, when did we go off the gold standard and into the current fiat system?
from above link wrote:
The government held the $35 per ounce price until August 15, 1971, when President Richard Nixon announced that the United States would no longer convert dollars to gold at a fixed value, thus completely abandoning the gold standard. In 1974, President Gerald Ford signed legislation that permitted Americans again to own gold bullion.
Wow! 42 years!
Awesome posts and great discussion and scenarios presented.
Very compelling and fits into the puzzle. Perhaps the final pieces.
ShawnW: I am of the mindset that we will go over the cliff ever so slightly, which gives the IMF an open door to step in and release this reset to the world. While that will not benefit us in the short term, I do think the USD has to be taken off its throne officially for this reset to happen. Only time will tell.....
To elaborate a bit more on my current theory
1. I expect the Gov to default on the 17th, officially and publicly damaging the global faith in the USD.
2. I expect China and the BRICS nations to next come out with very strong statements and actions of what they are planning to do very shortly after, even Thursday.
3. I then expect the IMF to step in as the saviour with a plan to get everyone back in "agreement" this will remove USD as the top dog and level the playing field somewhat, and include emerging economies as a larger part of the global economy. I would expect this to happen Friday through Sunday at some time.
4. This announcement would trigger the global reset, and included in it would be our glorious RV, but hidden in the mess of the rest of this.
now lets see if it holds any water lol