Starpath1 :three-letter agencies are experts at provoking the powerless, firing up their anger so they do something "wrong", for which they can point their fingers and judge them for being a "dangerous mob". I wonder . . . .
Gemstone72: Folks: Iraq's currency International rate will have to settle near what Kuwait's rate is. The two countries share a port and an oil field i understand. Shabibbi has stated they will have the highest rate in the Middle East Region. He said they can support $16.00, not that it would be $16.00.
MD895: Refrain from doing something you can't take back.
Remember martial law has been part of their plan for a long time and this currency thing can likely be taken away from the public. I highly suggest that anyone thinking of contacting a banker or senator remember that they will not be able to put that toothpaste back in the tube.
You've waited a long time for this. I would let the next few days play out. Just ask who it serves to make waves right now. It's not you. There are good people doing the the monumental work to improve our country and world behind the scenes.
I would hold off. Write your letter and sleep on it. If later you still feel the need to send it I'm sure there will be things that you will want to change. There are alway those thing we wish we did or DIDN'T say. There is always a bigger picture.
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Puravida: MD895.....You are 100% correct.
Responding with these rants and raves accomplishes nothing. Your government loves this kind of emotional, knee jerk reactions to a problem you do not even understand, much less know how or who to react too. They have agencies just to sit around and spin damage control and others to take names and numbers.
The only thing this little temper tantrum is going to get is the whole event shut down
The minute one person crosses the line with any congress person or executive at a bank, this will then become a security issue. You will have turned a localized security concern into a national one.
Your government and it's current administration looks for making mountains out of mole hills and all they have to do is declare martial law at the banks for fear of reprisal. Do not be surprised if they use this as an excuse to forestall the event - to look into things.
The only entitlement any of us have is just being in this speculation. That's it. 5+ years in this speculation. In a speculation you take your chances, for what we have invested, it is nothing. Your looking at a 33000% ROI At $3 exchange rate. No emotion, just reason.
Your not entitled to any special rate, or special consideration. This is reality, life is not fair, just has a reason behind it. The guy that has 5M in the bank is always going to get more than the guy who has $500.00. Just the way the banks work, just the way life works, suck it up and quit acting like you are owed anything.
We we will see an RV, and a Contract Rate and we will see it this week, because of one thing - we waited.
Bluestar: Going Political = Going Public
Dear TNT community...We should be hopefully days away from the RV if the talk of magic Tuesday(the 21st) is real. We know that banks are not open on the 20th MLK holiday.
In the interim, I want to begin by thanking Tony , Pam, Ray Ren, DC guy and all the mods and support people at TNT for the amazing work that they've done here during the past 6 months or more. I have always praised Tony for his endless patience with folks on the phone and reading all of our emails and responding to all of the questions on the boards.
The community here is truly a great one as it allows viewpoints from all over the Dinar community to be put up on the boards. What other Dinar website and leader like Tony ACTIVELY asks you to go to other calls and get information elsewhere and even to POST IT OVER HERE. No one does that and he and this community have to be commended for doing that.
As we all know...it's gotten kinda crazy out here in Dinarland. I was once a lead questioner at another community and was flagged there for praising Tony's sense of fair play here ( he was not actively criticizing other Gurus unless it was an overt and unwarranted attack). As a result, I was censored there and cut off from internal email and posting on the boards. So now I'm here where we can speak freely...RIGHT?
Tony recently instructed us to NOT call the banks but when a caller asked if it was OK to re-contact our wealth managers Tony said that that was fine. Well, unfortunately(for Wells Fargo+ others) or possibly fortunately for us, it generated a TON of 1st time calls to the banks (I found this out from my banking contacts).
This was probably a good thing as the banks who ARE familiar with the Dinar and ARE facilitating it needed to be called and told about the fact that were here and need to be acknowledged and respected.
More recently, last night , Tony instructed us to call and write our elected officials. This is NOT the right thing to do for a myriad of reasons.
After living and working in DC in and out of gov't for 31 years (in congress,senate,c-span and presidential campaigns) I have extensive knowledge of how information flows.
E-mail is simply counted and only in an automated sense unless you have specific contacts. Phones RARELY get to the people you want them to as they are funneled through a labyrinth of layers of people beginning with receptionists and interns. You're LUCKY if you get a senior aid let alone a junior one. So calls are largely ineffective. So why then am I concerned?
1. Tony said don't go public but call your reps and Senators. This action IS GOING PUBLIC as these underlings often talk to media types.
2. We are close now and many of us don't want this on the 6 o'clock news. The last thing we need is that type of headache in the final minute of the game. It may not with this action , BUT WHY TAKE THE CHANCE??? NO UPSIDE ONLY DOWNSIDE HERE.
Anyway...that's it. I hope your teams win today and you have a GREAT DAY of football.
PS By the way...This Tuesday is the State of The Union. Tony...we're lOOking forward to maybe seeing you in the balcony at the State of the Union address when the president acknowledges ALL DINARIANS!! LOL Just kidding...
LadyInBlue :I never planned to use my banks wealth manager, its too stacked to the bank. There are others...http://online.barrons.com/public/resources/documents/BARRONS_TOP_40_LARGEST_WEALTH_MANAGEMENT_FIRMS_2013.pdf
Startnow: Wealthy investors exchanging now.....and the Tiers ........ by: Chillimac
Chillimac_~: WELL I DONT KNOW WHO THEY WERE, BUT I DO REMEMBER MR BUSH TAKING A BUNCH OF WEALTHY INVESTORS DOWN TO THE CAYMENS TO TALK STRATEGY, WEATHER OR NOT IT WAS THIS GRP OR NOT I DO NOT KNOW, EVAN THE PRESS WERE KEPT OUT, IF THIS WERE THE GRP THAT IS BEING ALLOWED TO CE FIRST, THEY HAVE BEEN IN IT A NUMBER OF YEARS,
AND YES THERE ARE TIERS, THERE ALWAYS HAVE BEEN, I DO NOT KNOW WHO ALL THE TIERS ARE, BUT THERE IS A REASON THAT THIS MUST GO IN A DESIGNED PLAN, OR NONE OF IT WOULD GET DONE, IT HAS TO BE IN AN ORDERLY FASHION OR CHAOS WOULD HAVE RULED. THAT IS WHAT WE DO NOT WANT.
THERE IS A PROCESS TO ALL OF THIS AND WE ARE IN THE PROCESS NOW, WE WAIT OUR TURN AS USUAL, WE ARE IN LINE, WE WILL NOT BE LEFT OUT, THE UST KNOWS EXACTLY HOW MANY IQD ARE OUT THERE, DEALERS AND BANKS ARE AUDITED REGULARLY, ALL CURRENCY IS NUMBERED AND COUNTED IN EVERY COUNTRY, USA IS NO DIFFERENT.
YOU WILL NOT BE LEFT OUT, WE ARE IN LINE AND THIS WILL HAPPEN,
I PRAY EACH DAY THAT THIS IS OUR DAY. NOT KNOWING IS WHAT IS HURTING EVERY ONE, WE ARE LEAD TO BELIEVE EACH DAY IS OUR DAY, WHEN NO ONE REALLY KNOWS.
DONT BE A PART OF THE DISRUPTION, IT CAN ONLY CAUSE HARM TO US, BE PATIENT, BE SMART, DONT CARRY RUMORS, OR WRITE LETTERS,
THERE ARE GOOD GUYS AND BAD GUYS IN EVERY GOV. PRAY FOR EACH OTHER, AND HELP EACH OTHER GET THRU ANOTHER DAY, IT HAS BEEN A LONG RIDE, BUT I FEEL VERY CLOSE TO THE END.
KNOWING ALL THAT HAS GONE ON BEFORE, AND KNOWING NOTHING IS LEFT TO DO, HELPS ME KNOW HOW CLOSE WE REALLY ARE.
THE COUNT DOWN IS IN PROCESS, AND WE WILL HAVE OUR DREAM SOON, HOLD EACH OTHERS HAND AS WE CLIMB THIS HILL, BECAUSE THE SOUND OF MUSIC IS COMING FROM THE TOP AND WE ARE ALMOST THERE.
SO PRAY AND PAY IT FORWARD WHEN THE TIME COMES,
LOVE ALL, CHILLI
Excerpts from CCHOLO:
CCHOLO wrote....I hope we all understand that WE ARE THE PEOPLE IS A WORTHY BATTLE CRY! It is A POWERFUL UNITING MANTRA that defeats the intent of divide and conquer! The entire WORLD IS NOW REALIZING that "We are who we have been waiting for"
WE the People , means that we will stand together , with courage , under fire and NOT allow a minority of mean spirited- uncaring - cowardly - greedy " rulers" or " privileged" to retain a position of oppression ....
we are not Grasshoppers in our own eyes.. we are not slaves... we are not elephants tied to a chain ... we are not prisoners of war , we are not HELPLESS or POWERLESS!
We THE PEOPLE are the ones who built this country –
WE THE PEOPLE are the ones who have worked long and tireless hours at minimum wage, STANDING IN LINE BEGGING FOR UNEMPLOYMENT WHEN THEY SHUT DOWN AMERICA!!!
WE THE PEOPLE are the ones who BAILED OUT THE BANKS AND big business while they stole our savings and homes and jobs!!! That was OUR TAX MONEY !
WE THE PEOPLE are the ones who lost our children and husbands and sons to foreign wars while they lied and Denied that there was a War or Napalm or other atrocities that impaired our loved ones for LIFE and while they said there were Weapons of Mass Destruction -compelling us to make the ultimate sacrifices , and then refusing to care for our war survivors (our Veterans .. our HEROES AND HEROINES.. OUR RESCUERS!)
WE THE PEOPLE are the ones who believed in "THE AMERICAN DREAM" - invested in AMERICA and then lost our jobs and our homes while they were allowed to "resign - retire" and got Golden parachutes when they defrauded us, no JAIL TIME.. NO COMPENSATION TO US ...
WE THE PEOPLE are the ones who CARE about people in need... We have been the ones who have served the homeless... helped people keep their homes - helped them build their home with sweat equity efforts... helped people get back on their feet... supported families and children and veterans and ex-offenders and fed the hungry and clothed them!
WE THE PEOPLE DONATE .. WE THE PEOPLE VOLUNTEER - WE THE PEOPLE SERVE - WE THE PEOPLE REACH OUT TO THOSE THE WEALTHY DO NOT EVEN SEE!
WE THE PEOPLE CARE!
WE THE PEOPLE ARE WHO THE WORLD HAS BEEN WAITING FOR
WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE ONES WHO WILL PAY IT FORWARD ... "THEY" HAVE NOT AND THEY WILL NOT
WE THE PEOPLE ARE THE PEOPLE!--
DinarHappy: We are All Treading on Extremely Thin Ice - personal Thoughts and Opinions
Like so many people, I have wanted to get on the call to talk to Tony with all the turmoil this past week, I have wanted to chime in and say my peace... Yet I have not been so lucky.
As Tony has stated many times that, we need to do our research to become educated in the matters of finance and government. In spite of that, I believe we are not looking at the even bigger picture Glairing us in the face.
As a Loyal listener to Tony, we thoroughly understand why he, DC, and everyone else are "Mad as Hell"; nevertheless, I believe we are being played.
We are being pitted against each other over Money. Yes, I agree that it is not fair for those who have not been in this endeavor since the beginning: Yes, I agree that the Selected Wealth Managers that were given list to call did happen.
That the Rich given the opportunity to get even richer without knowing the whole story. Reminiscent of mindless twits they did what they were told to do, they just completed the process. Resembling lambs most of them have been taught, so they have become the mindless, dare I say it, “Zombie’s.”
We are so close to falling over the edge. What's more, most are blinded to recognize it or they just do not care. We have become a give me country, meaning give me this or give me that…Do not want to work for it just give me, and If you do not give me I’ll make you pay one way or another.
Many people have fought and died for our country, they are the ones that gave us our freedoms we have at this moment. Nevertheless, for some reason or another, We the American people, have let those in our Government erode everything this country has come to stand for “Freedom”.
I apologize, Tony, for having to say this but our countries Morals Ethics and Values, Trust and Honesty have been thrown in the garbage while Power, Greed, and Evil have taken us to where we are today. “Class Warfare”
Class Warfare,an open clash between two opposing groups (or individuals); "the harder the conflict the more glorious the triumph"--Thomas Paine
Which is where it brings us today, we are being played against each other, Middle Class against the Upper Class, the Lower Class against the Middle Class. Why?
Why do you say, at this moment it is All Over Money and Power. Money that we have worked hard for, opportunities presented to us, and the means to make not only our lives but also the lives of those around us better.
Tony is exactly right, those in Power have the Power to prevent these things from happening, and so far, those in Power are Egging this struggle on, hoping we fight against ourselves while they continue their goal of dragging this country into the grave.
The Powers that Be, do not Care whether we can make our house payments, car payments, they do not care if we have medical problems, (that is quite evident with the ACA), and THEY DO NOT CARE! They consider us the lowly peasants and we will get out of the fields what the crows did not want. The Sad part about the “Gleaming”, they know that we would be happy to get the gleaming.
Nevertheless, we are treading on extremely thin ice, in my opinion, because if we are not careful we could cause a situation that All of us would Suffer even more hardship and pain than we are at this moment.
I could go on further, but just PLEASE use your common sense and be extremely careful