Tlar & Members Continuing Discussion Of Iraqi Dinar Part 4
Continuing Discussion With News Articles From Part 1
Tlar & Members Discussing Iraqi 50 Dinar Note Being Canceled
Dog Gone «the currency bloc Dinars up to 37 trillion, and whether they belong to the government or citizens, mostly deposited in state banks because of previous instructions that prevented ministries deal with private banks».
Diane Finally something that makes perfect sense, mekim6. They'll be pulling all the 3 zero notes off the market (plus the 50, 250 & 500) & replacing them with the LDs, of which the 50 will be the largest. So they will be part of the new notes when the value changes. Is this the actual scenario??? No one knows, but I'm buying it today. Translation has been an issue all along... & this is a good example. Thanks. :)
Schiz I remember a friend once used to send me emails pasting stuff that nova used to say in a skype group. I told my friend not to listen to him anymore lol.
Tlar: There are three different definitions going around in dinarland on what the definition of the removal of the zeros means. Albeit, it is confusing to most.
The first definition is removing the 3 zero notes.
The second definition is removing 3 zeros off the currency itself indicating a 1000 dinar note would now be equal to a new one dinar note.
The third is removing 3 zeros off the exchange rate.
The CBI in 2008 told us of their intentions early on when they mentioned in a few articles the the zeros would be removed of the "nominal rate". This is the exchange rate.
Again we get confirmation from the Finance Ministry on what the plan is when they told us in late 2013 that the "leading" zeros would be removed. There are no "leading zeros" on the currency.
And as Dog Gone has shown us again, Dr. Bakri, hired by the CBI, explained this program as a change in value of the currency, not a removal of the big notes. Once the value is changed the big notes will come in because of their unusabilty in day to day transactions.
I have brought forth the argument forward that removing the leading zeros from the nominal rate only tells us of their intentions, but is not indicative of an actual rate.
The reason is that it says to us that any value at 86 cents or above, the zeros will be gone. Meaning 1, 2 or 3 dollars is still deleting the zeros, so it is still an appropriate name for this project.
The CBI had been telling us as far back as 2012 that they wanted 1 dinar equal to 1 dollar.
Has not the conditions changed again since 2012? This is 2015. Both oil production and reserves are now much higher. Currency and gold reserves are also higher but unlike 2012 there exists now a BIS account with an unknown amount sitting in it that belongs to the CBI.
There is obviously many times less dinars circulating in Iraq and their debt has been reduced significantly since 2012. So how does that change the potential for the rate?
As Dog Gone has shown us in the articles above, the "delete the zeros" program is a real program. There was about a four month period in 2012 that Shabibi decided to change the program and we saw articles atesting to that decision.
The decision had been made by Shabibi to just release the currency at 1166 and "let the market decide its value". He had stated that he was going to do this whether or not the government was on board.
The float theory was not a theory but a real change in policy in late 2012. Shabibi had done this because every time he tried to implement the delete the zero program it was thwarted by Maliki.
As we know, Shabibi did not get a chance to just float the currency because he was charged with crimes and removed by Maliki before he could do it.
Maliki then promoted Turki to be the Governor of the CBI thinking he could control him. Turki did not play ball with Maliki and went right back to supporting removing the zeros program within 30 days.
IMO we know this because the articles that had been talking about deleting the zeros earlier under Shabibi had all but disappeared, having been replaced by articles stating the CBI intented to release the dinar at 1166 and float it up from there.
But when Turki took over, within a month articles started to resurface again talking about deleting the zeros and have continued since then using the name deleting the zeros.
Some very intelligent people IMO got stuck in the float theory and haven't ever come around that the program to delete the zeros is back on. All trhe safe guards in protecting the currency also support that the deleting the zeros program is back on.
It is very telling that the 50 is being removed, and the 250, 500, and the 1000 all are in the process of being replaced by expensive high security notes. All are less than a dollar and are not worth being counterfeited as witnessed by the fact they have never been counterfeited.
It is only in a situation that the rate changes significantly that these not would need to be protected. And IMO we are seeing just that. The precursor to the deletion of the zeros project being implemented. tlar
Preacher Man Iraq: State-owned banks began lending to the private sector
(unitedbank-iq.net) Version: paper - International Last update: BAGHDAD - Naseer Goldfinch
Iraqi state-owned banks, under the guidance of the government began implementing the largest lending operation for the benefit of the private sector, in a move to invest large balances that govern the banks and move the semi-stalled economic sectors, and to secure the return help overcome the suffocating financial crisis taking place in Iraq.
The Iraqi government manages the three largest banks, is «rational» and «Iraq» and «Economy», in addition to the four sectoral banks are «real» and «agricultural» and «artificial» and «Housing». While the number of private banks rose to 28, and working alongside 10 Arab and foreign banks.
«Trade Bank of Iraq» and announced the launch of loans worth $ 10 million for artisans in all provinces. And confirmed its director general Hamdiya dry, «determined to help mitigate the financial crisis energies available to the Bank». She pointed out that «financial and security crises Khalafta and beyond slice of unemployment in the form of direct or indirect, prompting the bank to release loans to artisans.»
They pointed out that Iraq «is characterized by the presence of craftsmen have the attributes of a good but underfunded, and this logic will present the bank an amount up to $ 10 million distributed to the group of those who will file for a loan at the bank branches scattered in a number of governorates of Iraq.»
She explained that «the interest on the loan of up to 4%». It considered that it «will contribute to reducing the unemployment rate and the creation of a generation of artisans develop local industry, also drives the economy and the market».
«Rafidain Bank» proceeded in granting loans to citizens to buy cars, and said the media office of the bank in a statement, b «continue granting loans to citizens to buy a car in installments in the number of its branches», referring to «a select number of companies to exercise this activity». And extends the installment period of five years.
And saw the head of the Iraqi Banking Association meek Handal, that «indicators in the banking sector appear acquisition of three government banks at about $ 30 billion, or 80 percent of the money in the country, and the rest is distributed among private banks and citizens, and faced with the need to exploit this currency bloc optimally ».
He pointed out that «the currency bloc Dinars up to 37 trillion, and whether they belong to the government or citizens, mostly deposited in state banks because of previous instructions that prevented ministries deal with private banks».
He explained that «make citizen fear of dealing with it, which impacted negatively on the nature of private sector activity is limited to his work on simple transactions, such as foreign remittances and sell the dollar».
She said an economic expert in Chancellor House Suhad al-Obeidi, «he should start step exploit available at the banks years ago Monetary like the rest of the States, which invests all of its holdings of cash to ensure the additional revenue is available to have».
And emphasized the need to «get out of the financial crisis by any means, that we begin again to reduce our dependence on a single source is selling oil».
They pointed out that «the Agricultural Bank» continuously in the campaign, as well as lending to farmers «Industrial Bank» through the Ministry of Industry for the benefit of businessmen and industrialists. »
And announced «private banks support soon or disclosed in the area before the intervention is also in project lending, in order to move the market and domestic investment, and raising the per capita income level». She stressed that «the most important is to achieve earnings ratios can reduce the dependence on oil».
And the deletion of zeros from the Iraqi currency, a member of the parliamentary finance committee Masood Haider pointed out, to «keep the central bank on the implementation of this project, because it needs a profound study, due to the large impact on the currency and price, thus the market in general and the economy».
According to a source familiar with the central bank, that «Iraqi currency project replace and delete three zeros of them, warmed to him since 2011, and completed its details with the exception of the government and parliament approval». Not overlooked «some government agencies refused to start a replacement for fear of breaches, as happened in 2004, despite the fact that the situation is more disciplined».
He also noted that «others feared for fluctuations in the market may reflect negatively on the lives of citizens». The source explained that the process will be implemented in phases in the case came substitution approval, which lasts two years and will not feel out of the citizen. » LINK
Preacher Man Substituting the 50 part of the implementation process..taxes today, loans today,
Preacher Man Thanks Neno,
Iraq launches strategy of 4 axes to activate the private sector
February 12, 2015 BAGHDAD - Anatolia: launched Haider al-Abadi, the Iraqi prime minister, on Thursday strategy of 4 axes continue until 2030, aims to stimulate the private sector in the country to promote domestic production, which has deteriorated continuously for nearly 10 years, ensuring raise the proportion of its participation in the gross domestic product to 18%.
Ebadi said during the launch of the strategy conference in Baghdad yesterday that the Iraqi government is determined to the advancement of the private sector in the country and reduce dependence on oil to support the financial budget.
Abadi added that for the development of the private sector strategy also requires the development of the banking sector in order to ensure its success.
The Iraqi government announced orientation during the year 2015 to activate the investment business in all economic fields of energy and industry, in order to increase the annual fiscal revenue, which depend directly on about 94% on the export of oil.
Iraq is facing an economic crisis that forced him to reduce the size of the financial budget as a result of lower oil prices below $ 50 and start a policy of austerity, while the Ministry of Finance announced last month that it would increase taxes on some of the services provided.
Iraqi Council of Representatives approved the end of last month for the 2015 budget of the country after reducing expenses by around 4 trillion Iraqi dinars ($ 3.43 billion) to reach 119 trillion Iraqi dinars ($ 102 billion) and a deficit of 25 trillion dinars ($ 21.4 billion).
The first axis in the development of the private sector in conducting an inventory of the private sector to show the places where companies in Iraq, services and products offered by the markets served by the number of employees in each company and the problems faced by companies is no strategy.
The second axis includes improving the business environment, which centered on the laws, regulations and instructions obsolete and procedures that hinder the development of the private sector, to be the formation of joint committees and forums to consult on the laws, regulations and instructions.
This includes third axis implementation of the development of small and medium enterprises program, through the expansion of existing industrial areas and improve their services and the opening of new industrial zones to be able to industrial and small companies from work, and the creation of a special fund to support small and medium-sized companies give soft loans and issue guarantees for loans, and providing training programs and consulting and technical assistance to companies Small and medium-sized, particularly in the area of planning and feasibility study new technologies and marketing.
The fourth axis includes the implementation of the activities of the former pillars of the best.
The Council will be composed of private sector development of representatives from government, private sector, and the Council will be the task of overseeing the implementation of the strategy and reports to the Council of Ministers.
For his part, the appearance of Mohammed Saleh, the prime minister for economic affairs adviser on the sidelines of the conference that "stimulate the private sector strategic initiative aimed at ending all the obstacles that have prevented over the past years without taking the private sector role in development," he said.
He pointed out that "the private sector currently accounts for 1.8% of the total GDP, which is a very low rate compared to the potential of the private sector and its spread in Iraq
And the favor of the "strategy includes providing the appropriate atmosphere to restore the private sector for its role in local development by raising the proportion of the gross domestic product to 18% in 10 years to reach the prescribed percentage according to the strategy."
The Ministry of Planning has announced earlier this month for an economic plan standing four years to save the economic situation in the country as a result of lower oil prices and to bring investments to Iraq, noting that the plan will be launched soon.
Preacher Man Prospective intergovernmental conference to translate the recommendations of the national strategy in practice
3/1/2015 0:00 To complement the work of the implementation of steps to develop the private sector
BAGHDAD Alaa al-Tai government plans to hold an expanded conference attended by representatives of the public and private sectors to translate the recommendations of the Executive and procedures in order to proceed with the implementation of the national strategy for the development of the private sector, which recently launched, according to plans and mechanisms included.
The chairman of the board of advisers Thamer Ghadhban told the "morning", about the government's preparations are underway to hold an expanded conference to announce the activation of the national strategy for private sector support mechanism where he is scheduled to take place mid-March.
He said Ghadhban "The government embarked on taking executive actions recommended by the strategy and began actual steps will be translated at the conference which is being Configuration node, and includes all the relevant authorities to implement the national strategy for the development of the private sector, a government representatives, consultants, economists, private sector and business leaders."
He said The next meeting will include making recommendations and operational procedures in order to proceed to activate the strategy according to plans and mechanisms included in the restructuring of private sector companies,
pointing out that the current government has launched an approved and declared strategy to be acted upon until 2030, for the development of the private sector and the three Mrahal.utaba Ghadhban that "lines core which include improving the business environment and make it suitable for the private sector and create windows privileges and guide the private sector, so that it is effective not only in production and service sectors quick profit exclusively, but goes to agriculture, industry and tourism, areas in which we have the advantage there.
For his part, noted Prime Minister Advisor Economic Abdul Hussein Al-Anbuge, in a statement singled out the "morning", to find that the strategy for restructuring of private sector companies no longer just a desire, but an urgent need at the moment, especially as the government's withdrawal from certain sectors due to declining oil revenues led to a decline in spending
Aovernma.oukal Anbuge that "what happens we have the opposite of the policy of the Western world, which when falling by the private spending, the government intervene to compensate for the shortfall in private spending, while we have we, the state is being spent and create demand and move the economy so when the revenue of the State to be the basis and dependent on oil revenues decline, , this leads to the creation of a fundamental problem, and here becomes an urgent need to engage the private sector strongly stimulate the economy. "
He said Anbuge that "unless the private sector support, there would be the economy, because they are complementary, and the state representing the administration," noting that the state in Iraq owner of each something which is driven by the economy, even when the private sector works to be a contractor for the government,
"pointing out that Article 25 of the Constitution stresses the need for economic reform and economic freedom and economic rival and the market economy and enable the private sector, is that the work in this article was a" semi-Disabled "in the past the former, while the current government is working on activated. http://alsabaah.iq/ArticleShow.aspx?ID=87870
Preacher Man Implementing loans was in stage 3... Only stage 4 is left, mid march!!
Only stage 4 is left,Working on laws and regulations, but I think they will all be done along the way. The important point is Abadi has not slacked off. He has no choice. It is the natural probable consequences of events. Just like the delete the zeros! Guess we will see,,
Preacher Man Parliamentary power: behind the lack of export Kurdistan 550 000 barrels a day to technical problems
BAGHDAD / JD / .. The Commission on oil and energy parliamentary, that the oil agreement between the federal governments and the Kurdistan region still exist, while attributed the inability of the region to export 550 000 barrels per day to technical problems, are likely to overcome in the next few days.
A member of the committee MP Majid Chenkali Agency / BD /: that there are technical problems related to the pipeline to export oil prevented the Kurdistan Regional Government of commitment oil Convention concluded with the federal government, the fact that the new pipeline to Aistoab agreed amount by the amount of 550 000 barrels per day.
He added that the agreement signed between the governments of the center and the province valid and continues to list and there is no intention of both parties to call it off, pointing out that the Kurdistan Regional Government put forward a proposal to the federal government calculates the source quantities quarterly or every three months so that the daily export rate of 550 000 barrels, but the federal government refused to This proposed. / end / 8 http://www.dananernews.com/News_Details.php?ID=5576
Schiz We are watching currency reform in iraq, in a sense a really slow rv, the end is surely in sight now :) im totally expecting to be a very happy man come summer :D
Preacher Man Schiz, Im with ya my friend, I just cant see them loaning all of that money, without a persons credibility, and what type of collateral do they have to back the loan, guess they dont have Barney Frank, setting up their loan analysis..LOL
Schiz Yup and they have started passing laws for those loans too. Passed the one for japans loan to them today (dont know why they need a law but this is iraq aint it lol )
Preacher Man Schiz Funny, I read the same thing and ask myself, They had to vote to borrow money? My goodness, so ready to get off of this ride, cut off my internet, change my phone number, and move on
Hi-five DreamWeaver, Interesting to note that the 50 dinar note is the only common note to both sets. If this article is accurate, they will launch the new 50 dinar when the lower demons come out.
Cornbread You know guys we could have easily assume to Shabibi would float the dinar in 2012 but the fact is is that we don't know if he would have done that anyway I have to give credit to my buddy mike that is a very smart guy he was the first to bring it to my attention about it never happening before so after hours of research no country has ever done it that is not and opinion it's a fact so it doesn't matter to me about what we thought shabibi was going to do because there's no actual proof that he was that fact is that it has never happen before
JDinar yep hi-five, to add, that is propably why they want the old 50 note removed, null and void not to add confusion between the 2 notes. All the others can co-exist for 2 years as several articles state. I don't think it really matters about the 250, 500 or 1000 note to be brought in like the 50.
DreamWeaver, you made a great point awhile back that nobody saw this 50 dinar note removal coming especially the gurus with their great CBI contacts. It tells us only a few know and they're not telling.
At this point, I dont' see anything happing with the rate until after April 30.
I believe the implemetation of these new "axis" of national economic reform will be talked about until all these 50 notes are done. Apparently, they are giving out loans as we speak and will surely continue to fund whatever is necessary until the end of April.
This is all great news of what is coming around the corner :)
I also want to thank all the contributors on this wonderful site.
Dreamweaver Hi-Five, I absolutely believe this article is accurate as it backs up what I've been intuitively sensing for a long time now—the new lower denoms will include a 50 dinar note.
Also, sensed a long time ago that CBI would reprint ALL the denominations--not just 5k, 10k and 25k. At the time I posted this belief, I was absolutely the lone voice on the board as it was counter to Tlar and other respected posters' beliefs--but that intuitive thought has also proven accurate.
So, I’ll continue sharing my thoughts, which may comfort those concerned as to whether or not CBI will do the same thing to the 250 and 500 notes.
What the CBI has recently done, IMO, speaks volumes of their intention to RV and release new lower denoms—hopefully no later than May 16th.
If you look at the pattern, and I'm big on patterns, CBI is abolishing the currently circulating 50 as it is the only denomination that exists both pre-RV and post-RV.
Since no other denominations were left off their list of currently circulating denominations to be re-printed, I'm not expecting CBI to pronounce any other denom—other than 50--as "illegal tender." Of course, it is Iraq, so I’ll be watching closely.
For now, I believe that when the RV happens and the new lower denoms are rolled out, the CBI will announce that citizens should come into the bank to exchange BOTH their USD and higher Dinar denoms of 250, 500, 1,000, 5,000, 10,000, and 25,000 for lower Dinar denominations as well as electronic dinar deposited into their new bank accounts--
with Bank cards linked and activated for their use with merchants both inside and outside of Iraq. Also expect Merchants will be “encouraged” though announcements by the CBI or GOI to install new equipment to accept those Bank cards for purchases … or to only accept lower denoms in payment. Might even incur fines or penalties for non-compliance.
We’ve seen a dozen or more recent articles about new Bank cards being issued for account holders inside and outside Iraq. No doubt this is a part of CBI’s plan to get those citizens signed up for new bank accounts and using Bank cards for deposits of salaries and retirement funds as well as making payments to merchants both inside and outside Iraq.
What better way for CBI to encourage people to open banks accounts than with convenient Bank cards issued as well as help pull in all those 250-25K notes that CBI only tends to allow to circulate, concurrently with new lower denoms, for a few years?
This is just what feels right to me, at this point--but we’ll see how it unfolds. Hopefully, we won’t be waiting long. Best thoughts, all. ~ DW
Jdinar Completely agree with you DW. I also think the May rate change will be a start between 1 to 1.50 as they start drawing in the notes and then in July see the rate go to 3+.
rissas dad Sounds as good as any DW. Awful lot of indications of "soon" too.
DreamWeaver Jdinar, just posted on another thread, I have May 16th circled on my calendar with big GREEN RV written on that day--so we are definitely vibin'. Love it.
I've always seen rate starting at $1 - $1.17 and eventually getting over $3, but when I've shared my thoughts with a very well respected poster--not on this site--he has told me that can't happen.
Said they can come out at $3 and then float within 2% every 90 days, as I recall--but they can't come out at $1.17 and get to $3 for quite a while because of the managed float cap.
I respect him and his opinion, but my gut agrees with you, Jdinar, insofar as dinar will stage a little over $1 and then get up to $3 within a year or so. That "gut" of mine is right so often, I just can't go against it, even though logic may dictate I'm off my rocker. :P
Either way, I love your post, Jdinar, as my husband recently announced we are blowing this pop stand in July--with or without RV funds--as he's had it with the weather and allergens. Ready or not FL, here we come. LOL. Best ~ DW
DogGone Critical information here in this current March 1 2015 article.
«the currency bloc Dinars up to 37 trillion, and whether they belong to the government or citizens, mostly deposited in state banks because of previous instructions that prevented ministries deal with private banks».
-They just told us the in country amount oif dinar is around 37 trillion ( USD value 37 billion) and it is primarily being held in state banks, wether the owners of the digital or physical currency are Citizens or Governement.
-I think this is huge.. it tells me they have dried up the liqidity on the street.. which we already suspected.. but is now confirmed in this March 1st article.
Most of the IQD in Iraq is deposited in the State Banks. Citizens may be using USD in the street... but the bulk of the IQD has been gathered into the 3 State Banks.
They have not paid any salaries for what... over a year.. the dinar in the street is torn and tattered...
USD is about the only thing they can use... the barter system is alive and flourishing .. not because Iraq is broke... but because by CBI policy they have drained their economy of the national currency...
and oil prices are slowly rising... creating a new surplus for their austere new budget.
Further we have yet another CBI "source" telling us...
«Project replace the Iraqi currency and deleting three zeros of them, warmed to him since 2011, and completed the details, except the government and parliament approval».
hi-five I'm trying to understand why the banks would start loaning money (dinar) at the 1166 rate if there is a big change in the rate coming soon. Why not hold off the loans until the rate changes?
Dog Gone Contracts - liens, mortgages, loans.. wil not be affected by the rate change.
The Law of Indebtedness will level the field on all digital IQD and contracts.
A loan for an Iraqi to buy a truck.. does not put money in his pocket.. it puts him in DEBT.. gives him a truck... and the economy grows... with profits to the auto sales company ( digital), taxes (digital) on the purchase, and a newly mobile citizen buying refined petroleum ( profit and taxes) and working harder to pay his truck payment with interest to the bank( digital payment and profit),
possibly starting a small business... creating wealth and more jobs.. generating more taxes to be paid from his new bank account.(digital)
-In economic terms it falls under the "Multiplier Effect" principle.
Jdinar DW, yes, for over a month and a half, I have been fighting what my gut (my prayers) say because I too have other people saying different things...lol
I understand your view on the managed float within 2% and may take longer, but trying to reason what my gut says. I know this isn't popular but after the initial rate a free float could occur which could be crazy.
Of course the CBI could keep that managed float going until July and then impose the next change of 3+ what ever they want.
I believe they want to bring in as much dinar at first. The CBI has continually shown us they are drawing notes in and IMO that shouldn't change after the first rate changes. I see a worldwide explosion of exchange going on for a month or so. thanks for your comments DW.
Hi- five, the law of indebtedness may come into play on loaning money at 1166.
Dog Gone, didn't see your post...right on...and thanks for all your posts the last 24 hours
HandOverFist "It means pulling those notes out of circulation or off the street. One of the articles Dog Gone posted mentioned that very thing. That's good for us. Delete the zeros has nothing to do with dropping zeros off a rate."
1. We know Iraq is cancelling the 50 dinar note. We know the dealers will only buy back dinars that they, themselves, have sold to the public. If the above quoted statement is true, what happens to the people that bought from Ebay or purchased from other Dinarians who needed to sell? Are they screwed because the dealers won't buy back their dinar?
2. For those of us who bought from dealers, if the rate comes out very low, do we have any other choice but to sell back to the dealers, at a low rate, before Iraq cancels our notes?
3. I bought half my dinars from Dinar Trade and half from Dinar Banker/Sterling Currency Group. Ali (Dinar Trade) has sold to XOA. Will XOA honor dinars sold by Ali?
Flyboy A good glass of wine now days is always my companion before I go over the latest from the CBI...It helps clear the smoke. Don't get me wrong...it all sounds wonderful...but it has for years. Are we closer to the end of this ride... very much so.
How close, I wish I knew...like the rest of you...but I don't. They tell us what they want us to believe. I feel certain they read our blogs and smile at the deception and mis-direction they have created. Am I discouraged...not in the least...like most here I am incouraged that is why I keep the good wine handy and keep reading all the good work that all of you post...Thanks all...
HandOverFist I wrote the post at the top of this page when I was reading page 5 of this thread. After reading the rest of page 5 and all of page 6, I regret my knee-jerk reaction. Please ignore the post. Nobody really knows just what will happen.
Hi-five Flyboy, Haha - - - We're probably their greatest source of entertainment! Maybe soon we will get paid for it.
Rockstar JDinar, Great thoughts jdinar and DW! I am with you both until you believe it will come out at $1.17 and then a month or so later go to $3+...
I have always believed it will be one or the other they will not play games like this just to pull in the few remaining three zero notes off the streets in Iraq. Keep in mind and I think you both believe they would do this in order to pay for all of our three zero notes outside of Iraq and that is Not the case!
None of what we hold outside of Iraq will ever actually go back to Iraq or will have to be covered by Iraq when they RV! Iraq has been pulling as many triple zero notes off the streets of Iraq for a long time now and when they are ready to RV they will come out at whatever rate they are supposed to I honestly believe that.
They are not going to shock that economy twice within a couple of months! DW I can't wait for May 16th also I hope it happens before than or right on the day!!! Awesome discussion though everyone and this dog gone guy posting has been on fire lately too, thank you so much!!!
Aloha Alex Dog Gone gets the Milkbone! Possible trifecta brewing: Mosul gets liberated, Malaki gets arrested, rv gets announced...YEEhaw!
DreamWeaver Guys, since I posted a specific day for the RV, I need to be clear. This isn't coming directly from the Angels or in a way that would tell me it is absolutely going to happen. If so, I already would have sold my car, put money down on the RV of our choice, and had my suitcase waiting by the door. :P LOL.
The thought that the RV could possibly happen on May 16th is coming from something very spiritual that occurred in my life over 20 years ago.
A number: 516 was delivered in a way--directly, when I was fully conscious--that told me this would be something signficant in my lifetime.
A week or so ago, upon awakening, my first thought was: "Could 516 possibly be related to an RV date of May 16th?"
So, though I can't say for certain it will happen on May 16th, I will say that if I ever receive a direct message from the Angels regarding date or rate, I'll ask permission to share it.
If permission is given, I will post it as a 100% absolute here on the board, as those things have proven out hundreds of times over my lifetime to be absolutely accurate.
LOL when LiveFree actually posted that no one typically "dialed in" has been able to get date or rate, as I'm definitely dialed in and all I've gotten on this is ... crickets. Best and blessings to all ~ DW
Mcduff82 A few years ago there was a story on Dinar Daddy , two members of the site were sitting in a restaurant having lunch ,and discussing the dinar as they were leaving ,a gentleman came over to them and said remember 318 and then walkes away
They felt it was a rate or date as it was I think February
That evening I was in a card store that had a lottery and the article came to mind so I played 318 and that night I won$ 2300 So numbers are sometimes signigifant
DreamWeaver LOL. :lol: Dog Gone definitely gets a "treaty-treat" for the excellent posts. You're right on about that.
Your "trifecta" comment made me smile in memory of my mom--who dearly loved to gamble. Once went over to her house, the morning of the Kentucky Derby, and told her I dreamed of 3 horses that would come in 1st, 2nd, and 3rd. When I told her the names, she freaked out as they were running.
Told her to calm down as I didn't know the exact order--so my dream was useless. She started smiling and said something about a trifecta. No idea what she was talking about as I have no interest in gambling. Anyway, that day my mom won a lot of money on that race--offered me half--which I declined.
Clearly that dream was intended for my mom's benefit as she was giddy and flushed and happy beyond words. Thank you, AA, you took me back to a really wonderful memory of my mom ... when she was experiencing something similar to what I hope to be experiencing very soon. Except I will be CRAZY HAPPY. LOL. Best ~ DW
DreamWeaver McDuff, something similiar has happened to me as well. IMO you were very perceptive to have picked up on that. Absolutely agree with you that numbers are sometimes significant. So, PM me if you have any dreams. :P Best ~ DW