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THIS IS TNT DINAR'S Call Notes for Monday, SEPTEMBER 9, 2013 at 1pm EST and I apologize for anything missing. Please be sure to read about the Text Service and the PayPal directions. Thanks.
Always keep in mind, that this is what I heard and transcribed. It's Tony's info and opinion - based on what he's received via sources in the Dinar community and the World.
Feel free to always verify what you hear, and do your own due diligence.
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* during this call - I lost the radio connection several times --- I'd suggest you listen to the replay *
GOOD MORNING TNT DINAR …HOW YOU GUYS DOING TODAY
TODAY IS THE 9TH OF SEPT……10 IN THE MORNING
AND WE ARE GOING TO USE EVERY SECOND OF THIS 2.5 HOURS OF THIS RECORDING
YOU HAD AN INTERESTING WEEKEND…I KNOW YOU DID
I LOOKED AT IT…THEN I ANSWERED PART OF IT
WATCHED FOOTBALL…HAD HOTLINKS….COUPLE DRINKS…GOT SOME INFO ON THE RV
UNFORTUNATELY, SOME DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT
TOOK THE WHOLE WEEKEND UP BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T
THE GOOD THING IS THE SITE IS ABOUT NEWS ON THE RV AND WHERE WE ARE TODAY AND I WANT TO GIVE THAT TO YOU
BUT I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WE HAVE OVER 16K PPL ON OUR SITE
WE HAVE SO MANY OTHER SITES THAT ARE CONNECTED AND BROADCAST TO THEIR OWN PPL
AND SO W/ HAVE THE RADIOWE HAVE 5000 AND OUT OF ALL THOSE PPL, THEY WON'T ALL AGREE
AND THE MORE WE GET THE LESS IT WILL HAPPEN
WE CAN AGREE ON OUR PURPOSE FOR RV RELATED INFORMATION
ITS WHY WE LEFT OTHER SITES…AND BE ADULT IN THIS
ABOUT THE RV OF IRAQ DINAR
IT IS INTERTWINING ABOUT GOVERNMENTS
BUT WE WANT TO KNOW ABOUT THE RV….THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW
AND PPL COMING FROM OTHER SITESAND BRING STUFF HERE….THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE ABOUT
PUT YOUR OWN PUZZLE TOGETHER….YOU ARE ADULTS
YOU KNOW WHAT THIS SITE IS ABOUT….THERE ARE OTHER SITES
I'VE TOLD EVERYONE I GATHER AS MUCH INFO I CAN AND I DON'T RELY ON ONE SOURCE
AND TELLING YOU NOT TO
THERE ARE OTHER SITES….MAKE YOUR OWN DECISION
BUT IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT HAS TO COME TO THIS SITE
NO REASON FOR ME TO DODGE OR GET NOTORIETY…I AM WHO I AM
LETS GET BACK TO OUR SITE THE BIGGEST THING OVER THE WEEKEND
YOUR ATTENTION DIVERTED AWAY FROM THE RV AND RV NEWS
AND WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS
AND IT HAPPENED BECAUSE MOUNTAIN GOAT PUT UP A POST
EVERYONE CALLED ME..MY DAUGHTER, PAM, MY WIFE CALLED ME ABOUT IT UNTIL IT BECAME CONTROVERSIAL
TALKING ABOUT A POST….WE ARE NOT GOING TO LET A COUPLE PPL TO CONTROL THE BOARD
NOT GOING TO DO IT
ITS NOT HERE FOR PROSPERITY PACKAGES…TRUST FUNDS…NOT HERE FOR CONSPIRACY THEORY'S
OR FOR PPL TO CHANGE YOUR OPINIONS ON OUR GOVT.
I PERSONALLY LIKE MTN. GOATS POST WHEN SHE STARTED OUT
I LIKE THEM, BECAUSE IT WAS INFO, THAT I COULDN'T
THIS SITE BELONGS TO AMERICANS…ME AND YOU
I UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR GOV. HAS DONE…WHAT SHE IS TALKING ABOUT SHOULDN'T BE NEWS TO YOU….IT MIGHT BE NEWS TO YOU
I WORKED IN THE MILITARY AND OVER SEAS…WORKED FIGHTER SQUAD
I WORKED ( LOST THE RADIO AGAIN )
NOT MAD AT THE INFO BUT WHAT YOU HAVE TO LOOK AT AND I HAVE TO LOOK AT
BUT WHEN THE CALL GOES FROM RV ( LOST THE RADIO AGAIN )
AND TO NOWWHAT YOU SHOULD BE CALLING THEM OUT THAT CROSSES THE LINE W/ ME
BECAUSE WHATEVER OUR GOV. HAS DONE…ITS TO MAKE AMERICAN THE BEST IT CAN BE
YOU AND I KNOW IT….ITS FOR THE BEST OF US
THE CABAL ISN'T NEW ( LOST THE RADIO )
IT WAS TO PROTECT AMERICAN VALUES…BACK THEN THERE WERE THINGS THAT WE WOULDN'T BE PROUD OF
THOSE THINGS…YOU HATE THE BAD GUYS….YOU CAN'T SURVIVE W/OUT THEM
WHO'D DO THE THINGS THAT YOU DON'T DO….NOT SAYING YOU SHOULDN'T KNOW THOSE THINGS
BUT THEY HAVE SITES FOR THOSE…THE 911 INFO…THE GERMANY WAR…THE IRAQ WAR…THE BOOKS OUT THERE ON OUR GOV…..HOW OUR FINANCES ARE SET UP…BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT ON THIS SITE…..THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE GOING TO TALK ABOUT
HERE IS THE NEXT THING
I DIDN'T ASK MTN. GOAT TO LEAVE ( LOST THE RADIO AGAIN )
NOT GOING TO…THIS IS AN RV POST…NOW MOUNTAIN GOAT HAS A SITE
SO NOW YOU HAVE THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS…IT WORKS FINE FOR ME
RV INFO IS ONE THING…LITTLE SUBTLE THINGS ON THE PRESIDENT/THE DEVIL
AND I DON'T CARE WHO OUR PRESIDENT IS, BUT CROSSED THE LINE FOR ME
WE SHOULD BE AWARE OF IT….NOT ATTACKING OUR GOV.
I WANT THE INFO
WANT TO BE AWARE…BUT DON'T WANT TO CHANGE THE CONVERSATION FROM DINAR TO ANTI GOV
AND THAT'S WHERE I SAW IT GOING
THERE WASN'T JUST KNOWLEDGE….THERE WERE WORDS LIKE ANTI....AND THAT'S JUST MY OPINION
AND NOW I HEAR THERE ARE 2 NEW GROUPS NOW…..WE ARE GOING TO STOP ALL THAT
I JUST GOT THIS INFO THIS MORNING..THEY ARE SIGNING UP FOR A GROUP
AND YOU HAVE TO NEGOTIATE ON YOUR OWN….AND THEY ARE GETTING PAID OFF OF IT
BECAUSE I CALLED THAT NUMBER,,,FOR ME TO BE PART OF A GROUP
ITS FOR ME TO KNOW WHAT I'M GETTING WHEN I SIGN UP BECAUSE THE GROUP LEADER NEGOTIATED FOR ME
THAT IS THE INFO YOU WANT IN ADVANCE…NOT - SIGN THIS AND WE'LL EXPLAIN LATER
LETS GO TO THE RV…HERE IS THE BAD NEWS….HOLD ON
RATES ARE ON THE SCREENS…CALL CENTER PPL ARE AT THE CENTERS….CASH IN PPL ARE NOT
DOUBLE DIGITS….ALL ON STANDBY YESTERDAY
THE REALITY IS THIS ….THE SYSTEM ITSELF IS READY
PROBLEM IS WHAT YOU SEE ON TV…AND WHAT YOU KNOW WHETHER ITS PART OF THE SYRIAN DEBATE….PRESSURE IS ON
THEY WERE GOING TO WORK IT OUT A DIFF. WAY AND THIS WEEKEND IS PART OF IT
DON'T KNOW HOW IT CAN NOT BE PART OF IT
SIMPLE THING…IF IT HAPPENS BEFORE ANYTHING HAPPENS IN SYRIA
WE HAVE THAT TIME FRAME…BUT IF SYRIA HAPPENS AND IT ESCALATES AND THE WHOLE REGION IS INVOLVED…DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THE CURRENCY WOULD GO DOWN
BUT IF IRAQ GOT INVOLVED. IT COULD ADJUST DIFFERENT RATES FOR OIL AND GAS, IMPORTS AND EXPORTS
SO , IF IT DOESN'T HAPPEN…ITS BEING USED TO GET SOME OTHER MEETINGS AGREEMENTS IN PLACE
THAT'S WHERE ITS AT
WE DONT' WANT IT TO BE…BUT REALITY...HOW FAR CAN WE GO W/ THIS
IT COULD STILL CHANGE ON A DIME OVER THE WEEKEND IT WAS BEING USED
AS OF THIS MORNING…SUPPOSEDLY THE PRESSURE IS TO DO THE OPPOSITE
ACTUALLY GET IT DONE AND NOT BE USED AS A POLITICAL FOOTBALL
HALF OF ONE PART OF THE OTHER…IS IT STILL THE PROCESS YES
IF YOU PAID ATTENTION TO RV INFO IN IRAQ…THE NATIONAL MEETING TOOK PLACE
ALL THE LEADERS ARE BACK IN ONE ROOM TODAY
WE ARE NOT HEARING ABOUT THE HCL AND AMNESTY
AND SAT. MEETINGS STARTED, TODAY, SUNDAY….THEY ARE IN AGREEMENTS
ITS JUST TIME TO WHEN WE MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENTS
WE SEE TURKI RESIGNED…SHABS IS GONE…WHAT IS THE NEW GUY GOING TO DO
THAT'S THE WHOLE THING…WHY DID HE RESIGN?
IF YOU HAVEN'T GUESSED BY NOW….I'M GETTING INFO IN AS WE SPEAK
JUST UPDATES WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT IF WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT THAT
AND OTHER SITES WANT TO SAY THAT IRAQ IS NOT DONE BUT SEE THAT BARZANI WANTS TO PAY THEM 1000 USD EVERY MONTH NOW, IS PART OF THE HCL
HOW CAN HE ACCOMPLISH THINGS AND NOT MAKE AN ANNOUNCEMENTS
THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE
LET ME THINK WHAT ELSE WAS THERE….I GOT A LITTLE INFO FROM SOME PPL
WHERE DOES IT FIT IN AND WHY IS IT HELD UP
AND I'LL RUN IT BY YOU GUYS…WHY THIS WOULD HAPPEN
THIS IS WHAT I DON'T LIKE…I'VE BEEN IN THE MILITARY…I AM A US CITIZEN AND THIS IS MY COUNTRY
MY COUNTRY…I'M CONCERNED W/ THE WORLD AND HAVE A BETTER WORLD FOR EVERYBODY
BUT WHAT I'M NOT GOING TO DO IS GET INVOLVED IN A POLITICAL SITUATION WHILE ITS ONGOING
THAT'S NOT WHAT THE SITE IS ABOUT
BUT WHY THE RV IS HELD UP
SYRIA IS RUSSIA'S BIGGEST PARTNERS
JUST LIKE EUROPE IS OURS…WE HAVE THEIR BACK
IF IT COMES DOWN TO FORCE...
IF RUSSIA HAS IMPORT - EXPORT W/ SYRIA IT HURTS THEIR ECONOMY
SO WHO IS THEIR FRIEND…CHINA
SO HOW DOES THAT AFFECT ALL OF OUR ECONOMIES BEFORE OR AFTER RV
CHINA IS CONCERNED AND WANTS TO DO IT RIGHT NOW
BUT NOT IF IT HURTS OUR PARTNER
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600 T. WENT OUT LAST WEEK
THE 600T WAS IN GOLD BOND AND CERTIFICATES SO IT CAN'T BE SITTING IN WF
AND IF IT WERE THEY'D BE THE RICHEST BANK IN THE WORLD INSTEAD OF #5
BECAUSE OF THE INTEREST THEY'D BE MAKING
THERE ARE NO DROP DEAD DATES
ALL THIS MONTH…THIS WEEK, NEXT WEEK…IT DEPENDS AND YOU DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT
BUT THE REALITY IS WHEN THEY FINALIZE THE SITUATION W/ SYRIA
IT IS NOT ABOUT IRAQ
THEY ARE STILL MAKING ANNOUNCEMENTS…STILL REMOVING THE USD
WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND
GOT UPDATED INFO
THEY WERE MAKING ANNOUNCEMENTS BECAUSE THEY HEARD THE PLAN
I'VE HEARD THE PLAN AND GOT THREE DATES
AND I HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU THE DATES BECAUSE YOU PLAN YOUR LIFE AROUND IT
THE FIRST DATE IS TOMORROW….BUT I TOLD YOU THAT ON FRIDAY
AND SAID SEE IF IT HAPPENS BY THE 10TH ….AND A DATE NOT FAR OFF FROM THAT
BUT THIS IS WHAT WON'T HAPPEN…IF IT DOES HAPPEN I WILL BE ABSOLUTELY DONE
AND NOT COME ON THIS CALL AGAIN
THE US WILL NOT BOMB SYRIA ON 9-11…….I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT
I DON'T KNOW WHO TOLD YOU THAT…..MAKES NO SENSE TO ME….ITS NOT A DATE I LOOK AT FOR ME
I DON'T THINK THAT IS THE DAY WE PICK TO START A WAR
LETS DO SOME QUESTIONS AND GET TO THE OTHER INFO WITH THESE QUESTIONS
( HE'S DOING LIVE Q & A )
c- should we cash in at several banks and have money in several?
t- prolly put my money in all 4 banks, because they all offer something different and be diversified and grow, don't know your reasons and what you want to accomplish, I'm not concerned w/ them crashing... just because the dollar devalues...
c- just cost more to buy things
c- ppl forget what you say and you have to repeat it, do we open an acct. before we cash in, or while we cash in
t- in a bank, you can open it while you cash in, they prefer you have it done, its not part of your 20 min. process, and if you went in and took it down to zero
and moved the $ to your savings... and the IQD is in it, the only thing we are trying to do, is to keep the IQD CURRENCY SEPARATE from all currency, not just the VND
c- what is your take on using a group,
t- I recommend doing a group if you know what the group is all about and the objective of the group, if you go in w/ 30 ppl in your neighborhood go in, and bargain and get the rates, we'll put out the rates, so will other members as they cash theirs in, you'll know what to bargain for, and you will know that you weren't used by others, so they can get guaranteed the highest rate by you negotiating
t- think the best advantage is that you go in w/ your own group and get the highest rate
c- 1st class cashing out, how can that be
t- we heard that 1st class, whoever they may be, we heard that Sunday - Thurs. there must be millions of them, and one day we will get paid, and the rumor comes out the same place... all the time, we still waiting, when the first one gets paid, we'll get paid, when the rv is announced, we'll get paid and they'll get paid, they still lining them up in the halls and the auditorium and everyday they are back waiting, just like us
c- can we got to Iraq and cash out
t- absolutely not
c- can we go to the Caymans and cash out
t- I don't know, or Australia and Germany, but not Iraq
c- so anywhere in the world
t- if its international currency, think you have to be a citizen, look at the country's laws
c- whats your probability % wise, by the end of this month
t- all 3 dates I have are in this month
and they have a justification for each date, and the only one I want is for tomorrow, there is a lot of pressure for it today or tomorrow, before Th. Friday before anything happens, and a lot of pressure for things to be worked out
t- you are seeing one thing on TV and something totally diff. in the background
t- maybe someone else will explain it, but I'm not, this thing could be over today, and then again, everyone doesn't need to know everything that's going on in the background--too much on television and too much transparency, which created the problem.
c- not let others have control over our money, and wonder what you would recommend on REAL Estate or become Day Traders or a happy medium...
t- that's what you want to do, if you are new, tell you honestly
t- if you are new and new to investing, you are going to lose $, its part of the process, and you'll trust ppl who you should not trust, this is not against managers and investors, they are doing a job, to make money to pay the bills, they need as many transactions as they can get, and they try to make sure they're good, but they play the % game, if you lost, they still get paid... and they are experts in their field, and that's your education and hopefully while they do it, you are getting educated to make your own decisions, you will need them, but feel better when you do it....learning process
c- is there a way to minimize -- so they don't make all the decisions....
t- look at that, and the contracts and the percentages ....you can say, until you prove to me and then increase it...
c- IPO's do you need a day trade acct. who manages that?
t- that's why I said I'd do something w/ Chase, they do more there, its Pre IPO, thats the beauty of it, and they will call you, ( he gives an example now )
c- are you having a super fantastic day
t- yes I am
c- can you mention the other 2 times
t- you also heard me say I'm not giving the other 2 dates
c- selective hearing
c- talk about the Indonesian thing
t- article about that it raised their value
t- just a value change, not the global reset
t- if it was the world would have heard about it
t- minor adjustment
c- the high side of this going in, or the low side
t- on the screens is the high side
t- the more it drags out the more they need the higher numbers
t- someone asked the question, if the IMF gets it done, but its more than the RV its the impact on the other countries and they get involved w/ more $ to spare or how it will effect the regions before and after, there are questions now, more important than the rv itself.
T- GOT TO READ ONE OF PA MS ?S
? will overseas #s receive, Australia's rate of exchange
t- do what we did, contact bank ppl, and see what they see, or go online and see what the rate is compared to Kuwait and our rate compared to Kuwait and see if things are the same, its an opening rate, not the stable rate, and every country is not going to have that
? we never hear Tony talk about PPs, etc... if they are not real, then what holds it up?
T- I don't know if the PP's are, the bond payments I think are real, and the countries, and I did receive a copy of a check and one of the payments, and the treasury bonds... and that we can believe and countries to back deals, but PP per se, broke them down, so many names, and the Black Farmers, and I know it was paid years ago - there was a lawsuit over the money and when ppl include that, it makes me question it... and you had nothing to do w/ the lawsuit, but I can get you thousands or millions, or get you involved in the lawsuit, you bought into a lawsuit that's 30 years old... I have from several sources, that the initial thing is real and was paid out, but the offshoots are not... the latest excuse I heard was that it won't be paid till 30 days after the RV--before it was always before the RV.....after you have your RV $ you won't care anyway... don't want to get in arguments w/ PPl, because they are under NDA, etc.. and they won't get paid if they show it to someone.. what does that sound like to you?
?is the admin holding back the rv because of the debt ceiling to deal w/ Syria ?
? does the US need our IQD before we go to war?
NO, we went to war all the other times... w/out money, there are 3 countries that said they'd pay double for us to go to war, so why do we need it, that was another statement I don't agree with, some is just opinion, I don't have to agree, and you don't have to agree w/ me
? been stated we came w/in minutes of RV before, how can that be?
T- within minutes of the code being put, because ppl involved in it, were highly upset, but like M wiping the sweat off his brow, and then they had their houses doors kicked in, and computers taken and went to jail, and there is no reason to keep it secret, but to keep someone safe
? will they require a retention amount at WF and we have no say so
T-- read the documents, see how its structured, and if there was nothing to be fearful with, they'd have the docs right now, so your atty could review it now...
Don't know the terms of it, what I heard a portion based on what you have for a period of time and like other brokerage accts. ... but look into it
? please ask Frank at DB, for their last change?
T- I'll ask them
? originally told I have to be a resident of the country
t- don't understand that
? answer any questions you haven't answered before
T- yeah if you ask me
T- with all the other boards combined, if we are 50K, out of 250 M ppl, don't think it will stop them from doing what they are doing, w/ the New Republic, they don't happen over night... even Egypt didn't happen over night... if we become a 3rd world country, something like that would do it.... overnight, just won't fly for Americans, doesn't make sense...new treasury notes.. and the world will continue on and the soda machines wont' work, because its all new bills... without prior notice......
back to the real ppl - not chat room questions
c-run, here and there, and compare notes, ...believers, most on the call are Christians, or Muslims or Jewish, but we have 1 belief, understand the power of unity and the tower of Babel..we have a common cause like the Tower of Babel, rather than pick and get into what does this say or that, what do we say?
So what is the idea in your positiveness, to make a prayer not of any belief but be in agreement--so when you start your call off, you call it what you want, and send into the atmosphere, if you want someone to draft it, but those that are listening, must speak, but the prayer is, in Unity - do what we do... and at the end in the Power of or the Name of, and let our petitions be known, not against anyone, but the one that can stop the sun... we run around like little ants.... and ask what do you think
t- this is one thing, about me, that everyone can know -- I was brought up in the Church, Southern Baptist, cousins who are preachers, my Sister is a preacher, my father is a Deacon, but I don't push that on anyone else, I don't do religion here, there are so many different ones, so many diff. ppl here, if there is one thing that TONY AND TNTDINAR is about, is respect for everyone, regardless or race creed or color, avoid controversy and respect everyone... and by doing that, while I can say I agree w/ you about the power of prayer, and they can do it on their own
c- the call to prayer is the right to speak, but it has nothing to do w/ religion, that's my whole point, not about religion - just for us to agree on we want this done, and call it done, and we agree or give voice to something
t- I agree, we would agree, we want it done, lets get it done, but lets make it about that, and the whole thing over the weekend, this is a dinar site about the dinar, and where the gov. fits in about the dinar, and all the rest - I'm not telling you that you shouldn't know, but you need to discern Mountain Goats post and where it affects you... not blindly down the road.. what part is politics, what part is dinar related, and those are choices everyone can make and now they have a place to do that
t- all the drama over the weekend, you are adult enough to figure it out... and those that know me since Dinar Vets know that is not what I am about and ppl can talk about it, and complain about it
c- appreciate that you are focused and would love to see everyone on the same mindset as you
c- lets say they vote not to attack or to attack, still have the debt ceiling, it will take longer, unless in the background
t- one way or another I don't think the Debt ceiling will be an issue, too much pressure on a global event, and they knew if it took this long, it would come down to this, weeks ago, exactly what they didn't want,, most parties didn't, they know exactly what will happen after bombs start flying it will be 10 times worse, and the debt ceiling has no play in it at all
c- so before the red line was crossed
t- we knew it a month ago, when i told you that 30 days after this, something would happen, and it was discussed
c- so why didn't the G20 nations get behind
t- behind the issue, it was a timing thing, we didn't have the Gas issue, just the Syria issue, and the Gas moved it up to the forefront, everyone knew there would be something, just didn't know what or when, you don't just walk into a room and say do it, at some point we have to get everyone to agree, and then they have agreed and then the agreement turns sour or someone doesn't live up to the agreement
c- do you think we will bomb or not,?
t- the reality is that I can have an opinion and what I've been told, I won't give you my opinion
c- will we know by tomorrow night?
t- I think you'll know, and by Friday.... anything can change, Russia put a proposal, Syria accepted, is it enough, not enough...
c- ricroc - Turki resigned - will it interfere w/ the RV
t- as far as Iraq is concerned its out of their hands, the RV is done
t- Turki would have done it if he could have... instead of statements coming out now - they're not fighting about HCL, basically Iraq is quiet now - giving them $, 3 diff. rates and dont' have those issues any more, still want to be the most powerful currency in the region, this weekend, all the leaders met, Nat'l Meeting, and their main concern now, if bombs fly, they are getting all the refugees', -- they have over a million now, and will get more, and how are we going to take care of them if we are still the poor country... those are the discussions they are having now, or preparations being made..
t- that is the reality of things
t- I'm not talking about what I'm not supposed to talk about
t- every bit should not be passed on, here is the problem about me relaying info, we have 16K ppl, and some been with me for 3 years, and know how things leak out, but I tell you in a way that its given to me, but how you can understand it, but can't do it w/ all these new ppl, and they go into shock, they haven't had the step by step info and grown in the process, and at this point its scaring more ppl than it helps... we need to be careful w/ how its delivered... and what you see on TV-- the process
c- for some reason, the Syrian thing and the RV is connected - are they?
t- yeah, there is a connection about it the whole call,
c- but the beginning, was it pertaining to the RV or the chemical weapons
t- Syria was an issue that spilled over to the RV
t- it had nothing to do w/ the rv, but spilled over to the RV
c-thanks for your service to the country and thank you for everything else you do
c- how does the dinar, who pays for this, say it goes for 10, does Iraq pay for the first 3.44 and the US pay the rest
t- Iraq doesn't pay anything, each country pays for each countries dinar, and they use it for oil credits
c- so then, the UST has to come up w/ Cash
c- so is this considered a long term investment....
t- its long term for our country
t- they aren't supposed to cash them in for 6 months, so Iraq can build up
t- its a 30 year agreement and will it change over the 30 years, absolutely
c- will that build debt
t- builds up credits, if the price of oil rises, we are not in debt
c- so the VND at 3. does the US pay for it
t- every country takes it in as a reserve currency and exchange it w/ imports and exports, no other country pays -- the only ppl it doesn't do it with is the Exchangers, who have agreements w/ the CBI, but any banks, you are being paid by the UST
c-thank you for everything you do, and to your Mods, and Pam, she's a piece of work, and she answers questions at 4am....
T- what do you mean
P- Tony said I was full of it, now I'm a piece of work
c- like a piece of art
t- oh, a piece of art work
c- glad you are here, we were told by WF that if due to the Patriot Act, if you open the acct. the same day that you exchange foreign currency --- there would be a 24 hour hold
c- so can't access the $ for 24 hours
t- there may be an exception to the rule, working with Private Bankers and Wealth Managers
c- so it might have changed, this was 2 years ago
t- no, these accts. may be diff. here's 10K to walk out with , your cards, full access in the morning and everything else will be pending till the next day....
t- or have an acct. and zero it out and move to another acct
c- what type of flack are the PTB get for the delays, countries waiting, banks that call ppl in and spend $ on salaries...
t- I was told yesterday and this morn. there is an enormous amt. of pressure to get this done now, and all kinds of pressure from down to PLEASE do this and you are changing the structure of the Universe... some feel its possible and no one wants to take a chance on it, and others say a week or 2 weeks and it will be done, are ppl under stress, yes
from the banks to the IMF, to the Gov. and every other Gov. and everyone trying to figure it out, and who has influence over anyone else
t- everybody feeling the pressure and the more public it is the more someone has to do someone
c- will it be to our benefit sooner than later
t- the only thing to our benefit, is if there is a solution, other than a 3, 4 country war
t- if there is a way to work it out
t- if something happens, takes longer, ppl get mad and go from there...
t- don't know how much time to take to get over it
t-like everybody else, lets hope for a peaceful solution, until then, there is pressure on each system and economy and sooner or later we will come to a standstill since no one will know how it effects their country, the ripple effects
c- your feeling that sometime this week its a good bet or changed till the last min.
t- its a good bet, in that the system is ready and everybody is ready dealing w/ the rv, its not the discussion anymore... the system, the payout, the positions, are not discussed, its are we doing this or not and when... that's the bottom line... nothing else and as soon as they come to that conclusion we'll see it...
c- thank the Mods, they're awesome
t- they are -- our Mods are awesome and they were challenged this weekend
t- asked me to do something and I said nope, and that's it, made sure the board was not out of control, and as ppl put their statements up and worked through it
t- but the Mods have a whole lot to do in the chat room and the forum
and you should appreciate them
t- we welcome them, from every site and gone through this the longest, and the new ppl appreciate it, and go through the process with some of your help, our goal is to be respectful ad helpful of each other and get to the end of the rv of the dinar
there are other sites.... so there is not a controversy at all,, not mad at all about it... get as many perspectives as you can, don't want everyone else's site to be advertised here, its a catch 22, don't like ppl using it to gather your emails to set you up for an agenda they have..
and you need to be smart enough to know when you are being used
c- thank you and the transcribers are awesome - they need bionics arms
c- question on 501c3
t- don't know about it
t- have an expert listening
c- how does it affect cash out...
t- if you bought the dinar in that name or bought from an exchanger... bank..
c- bought from the exchanger, and purchased in the church name and put it into a personal trust....
t- does the 501 c3 own the trust
c- does not
t- cash out and put in trust bank account
t- 501c3 is not for profit
and your trying to make a huge profit
t- what state are you in
t- make a phone call - you don't want to loose your 501
c- want to get in on the festivities for Vegas
t- you want to talk to Montana
because she's doing that, she's Montana to me, and she's something else to you guys
Pam: Flying Star
and you can send an email to Flying Star at CELEBRATEWITHTONYA@ GMAIL.COM
c- heard about 190 countries
t- set to go, still waiting
t- the VND did go down and some have changed minuscule, but not the global reset
c- waiting waiting waiting
t- been waiting and calling ppl to the banks and screens set, and know this, that they called them in and said smoke the cigs drink and sit at monitor, its going, and we had ppl in DC w/ champagne on ice and they started the party before the announcement and they are still sitting there
t- the highest alert we/ve ever been, all 3 shifts, and security and the part-timers and go thru procedures and they are still waiting, we know we've been that close to a decision being made
they've said go, and at the last min. and someone calls someone and then hold it, lets get this resolved first, or he's doing this instead and they weill continue to happen until someone says lets go or lets do it, or lets do it and catch it all after
c- so not just Syria holding it up, you made a statement of if it came down to this? what is this?
t- trying to tell you about the things that were happening in the last week, while we were waiting, but here has to be resolution in what is happening in Syria... and if they don't can we do this... diff. ways of looking at it.. bottom line it is the issue, thye wanted it done before
c- is the dinar International or will that it.. keep reading that it is
t- the Dinar is NOT international-if it was we'd be at the bank
c- may have mis heard you that Barzani is paying them USD if the dinar rv'd in Iraq
t- we could say technically that Iraq is Int'l they've done everything to qualify and on the back boards, but not on the front screen, so as far as we are concerned, and as far as they are - its on the back screens, in Iraq, if they know that, they know the rate will be min. 3.44 and they know how they are paying them right now on the cars, so 500 to 1000 USD rate, not USdollars, but equivalent to USD
or look at the article itself
t- we do have the article itself
c- is Pres. O going to do a speech tomorrow
t- since last Wed. or Thurs. not new info...
t- he'll be on the news today, several channels, and John Kerry is in Europe and at this point in the game, no news to anybody ---everything that you see on TV is not necessarily what is going on
c- geez - ya think, lol
t- if its on tv or the web it must be true, lol, thats so funny
c-if Turki is out of the pic. who is in charge of the CBI or is it the IMF that will take it over
t- they'll appoint someone at some point, the issue at hand is still w/ the IMF and the UST are they getting influenced ... China of course and they want something to happen ---and before it was China and Russia, at the UN and they wanted it because of this, but we pushed for higher concessions w/ the threat of this in the background and they said do it now, and now regardless of the rate, we have this other issue staring us in the face = because we took so long, the high rate isn't the issue now, but is it worth doing or losing and will it cost us more because we waiting
t- are they still pushing it, could it still go through, not in the next hour, because ppl are not where they need to be
c- don't you need someone in charge of the CBI at this point?
t- I guess if M. doesn't appoint anyone, its his position, it said Turki submitted his resignation, didn't say it was accepted, so, he's still there, anyone w/ in their right mind would let Maliki be in charge of the CBI, we know he's baking Syria and we know Iran comes into the issue and Syria hid him when Saddam was looking for him --its at a level we dont' want it to be
c- so with him resigning, do you still see an RV - 2 weeks ago the IMF said this is the day and the time and they would take over
t- I can still see it, because he put in the resignation and they haven't named a successor, so he's still in charge of the CBI and it could go today or tomorrow and he put it his resignation, maybe for Nov. 1
c- prior to a strike
c- so don't know if they are doing it prior to a strike or not the pressure applied ,and I don't know that that's going to happen
c- all I have is the 10K and the 25K, it was discussed that I need smaller ones, but my notes are solid
t- yes they are
c- the dollar will decline after this is settled , how much might we expect
t- I don't see 20-30%, it has to decline because of the 5 regions, the mini IMFs, because its losing its luster as the Worlds Global Currency, because all the currencies that have Dinar will use it as their reserve and Basel 3 will change things...but don't know that it has down to 30%
t- but during that same year, we climb back up and the system changes, and the market goes up and we change our import and export and the dollar ... 3 years go back to a system where we dont' have a universal dollar and China taking their turn, as the Global Dollar, we'll see what happens - but there is to be growth somewhere - who's turn is it?
c- using that as a barometer, big ticket items to bless my socks off... would it be your suggestion as soon as the RV takes place, to buy them when the dollar is most valuable
t- 2 things guys, you'll have the money to do it, and the dollar is at its strongest, but if the dollar goes down, it will take more dollars to buy the big ticket item... but as the economy goes down, and ppl can afford less the cost of the big ticket item will go down too, in a bad economy ppl are trying to survive and eat, and not buy boats and motorcycles etc... its frivolous things - recreational things - go down, just food for thought
c- have a super great day
c- you Cali ppl, the 800#s at the bank, and keep talking about it, pertain to the group rate, but if its only at WF - why need 800#s for the other banks
t- first all explain the YOU CALI ppl ??
c- you cried when you saw USC lose
t- 800#s for the most part, used by banks for organized cash in, and like WF they will set up appts. by the amount you have and don't have lines out the doors....
t- you don't hear about groups with other banks... because they are not operating like that, they say they'll match the WF rate, don't worry about it... so these other little things that ppl put are totally different, brand new one or 2 over the weekend and its more ridiculous, and use this site and these ppl - re do emails and phone numbers,, be smarter... take it upon yourself, if you don't documentation...and don't tell you the rate, then why be a part of it
c- there are bunch of us on your site, and we discern, and I negotiated w/ a mom and pop w/ the VND, everyone says 198 countries or 190 countries, so 5, 6, 7, 8 and maybe walked on paved gold streets, will you tell us after the RV
t- walk in paved gold streets -lol
c- I remember and Okie mentioned and then the Indonesian Rupiah, after you talked about it
and I'm interested in it
t- was to be 3 baskets, then cut it down to 2 baskets, due to being set up, clear disadvantage, ripple effect w/ the other currencies, so then these will go and this one, and I made the mistake of talking about that one, and then DB sold out, and now they have more,, so they put it in the first basket, and doing that changed the rate, and they had to recalculate, last week I had the list of the first 13, 16 currencies were going to go, and the next day the rest were to go, and then someone says - who is he talking to, - when its right they care, when it s wrong they don't care, I heard last week again, that my name is mentioned in DC - calm down, and I said I can do that, I know the alternatives, I did say there are other currencies, my understanding is Zimbabwe isn't supposed to go till Jan. - but it might go tomorrow, are there others, yes, will we talk about it NO
c- I apologize
t- no, don't apologize, just telling you the closer we get, the more intense, and the situations change, and when they have nothing else to do and listen to this call...lol
c- no idea how you get your sources, but I don't listen to anyone else, lots of stupidity with ppl I come across and you are smooth when you talk about the articles, the 8 ppl say the sky is blue and 2 say the sky is pink..
you said last week, you anticipate a 2 hour window, that you would give all the rates
but lets say the RV happened at 2am, and send out the text -- EST time, would you still do that in the morning area of Calif. or don't you know
t- don't know when they will make the announcements, we won't know things till ppl get in place and make calls and if its in the middle of the day, that's something else, every bank - someone can call and do that, you can be a part of it, this is the rate they gave me, and now they're negotiating X over the rate, but I can't come out the 1st day and say this is the rate - but can't say they will go up to here---- they'll change it, or that its for 10 days, then it will be for 5 days, they don't want that info to be public
t- we'll know if the 30 days is still in effect, which as of now it is, I'll give you what I can give you, without exposing my ppl, not ruining their life, so everyone else can be happy - not going to do that
t- makes sense right
c- applaud you personally, yes, and allow us to be adults and discern, and see that there are some that can't handle it, and some in this journey appreciate it.. hope to see you in Vegas
TONY-- IF YOU CAN HANG ON 7 MORE MINUTES
c- next 5, 7 days
t- it could go in the next hour or this afternoon, it depends on the decisions made w/ the Syria issue
c- doing a great job
c- be more considerate and ask 1 question, others ask 10 or 15, and I'll ask 1, do we put the $ into an interest bearing acct.
t- supposedly you get more protection with the NON interest, versus the Interest bearing acct...and the other reason, someone put it on the forum, and maybe Pam do you remember?
t- try to look it up
Pam: said the insurance is the same on both, and don't know if it had to do w/ the new treasury notes.....
t- no - we talked about it w/ the banks and the bank ppl, and the amt. of $, I'll figure it out
OK GUYS 4 MIN. LEFT
GO OVER IT AT THE END
WE KNOW THAT AS FAR AS THE SYSTEM IS DONE
IRAQ HAS FULL FILLED ALL THEY NEEDED
SIGNED DOCS..AUTHORIZATIONS..THE MEETINGS ETC... NOTIFIED ONCE AGAIN, OF EXACTLY WHEN
AND THEY SAY THE NAT'L MEETING IS THIS MONTH….AND THE 3 DATES ARE THIS MONTH
AND THEY MUST THINK THEY WILL FINALIZE IT THIS MONTH
BACK IN THE NEWS AGAIN…THE LITTLE THINGS TO LOOK AT
THE FACT THAT THEY ARE PAYING PPL ON THE CARDS AND TODAY MORE INTO DE-DOLARIZING
SOME BANKS ARE SUPPOSED TO STOP AS EARLY AS FRIDAY
WE KNOW THAT THIS WASN'T GOING TO BE A POLITICAL FOOTBALL…AND IT IS
NOT DEALING W/ US AND THE DEBT CEILING BUT THE WORLD SITUATION
PRESSURE TO GET IT DONE….AND TO GET IT DONE TODAY
IT COULD HAPPEN TODAY OR TOMORROW
AND JUST AS MUCH APPLIED TO THAT WHOLE SITUATION
HOPEFULLY IT WILL RESOLVED ITSELF FOR THE BEST
OTHER THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW IS THAT TNT DINAR IS HERE
TALKING ABOUT THE RV OF THE DINAR..NOT TALKING ABOUT CONSPIRACY..TALKING ABOUT OUR GOV
PROSPERITY PACKAGED…IF YOU ARE OK…STAY
IF NOT GO TO THE OTHER SITES AND SEE WHERE IT FITS INTO YOUR PUZZLE PIECE
AND NOT TELLING YOU TO
BE ADULT ENOUGH TO DO HERE
AND WHAT THEY ARE TYRING TO ACCOMPLISH THERE
HOPEFULLY THAT TAKES WHAT HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND IT IS IN PLACE
COULD BE ANY DAY…3 DATES FOR THIS MONTH
LETS SEE WHAT HAPPENS FIRST
ENJOY YOUR DAY…MAY IT BE SUPER FANTASTIC