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TONY - Good morning, TNT Dinar! It's Wednesday morning, 1PM EDT on October 23, 2013. Let's get started. I've got some good news, some bad news, and some bad news. The bad news is today and tomorrow may be your last chance to hit the "donate" button. That's the bad news. The good news is that after Friday we may not need it anyway. And that probability is looking better by the moment.
T - Actually I gave you a big hint, bigger than you'll ever know. Some serious bad news: I usually talk to Okie several times a day and some were concerned about him. He called me last night and he spent the entire day in the ER after slipping on his driveway and hitting his head. He's going thru that today. He's in good spirits - getting stiches. He is 72 years old.
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T - What's going on in the dinar world. Let me clear up the comments from the last blast: they are absolutely concerned about this going public. We are priviledged by this but we have not received it yet. The quickest way NOT to receive it is by people being idiots, commenting on the boards about calling their senators, etc. It's not about us. It's not about people who got paid and people who didn't. It's a WORLD event - the future of the global economy - not about us.
T - Seriously? Is that the best you can do? Does that make sense? If you think calling your congressman is going to get the RV done, that's crazy. They are listening to the calls. I said it 2 years ago that everytime we come up with a plan they pass a new law to stop it. You don't poke a tiger and then try to pet its head. We've said they're concerned about that which is why the NDA is there. They're concerned about security. Can 1 person stop it? No, they'll just take that 1 person out.
T - They don't care if it's 2 days or 2 years, they'll come back and take everything away from you - it's in the NDA and you'll see it there. You think making noise will get you paid? No way. Turn on CNN and see about the WH employee who sent out tweets thinking it wouldn't be traceable. Don't do it! This is the greatest opportunity in your life, so why chance messing it up?
T - The timetable was moved up because the diginitaries have been here for 2 days. They're meeting right now. The celebration has been scheduled for between now and not quite the end of the month. Moving the timetable up made the window smaller. Everything has been done and set. It was scheduled to go off again. There were some people in Iraq that got paid at the $20 rate. It was scheduled 1-2 weeks ago. They were notified it was going to go, then a few hours before they started paying their folks. But they stopped yesterday because it didn't happen. I like the stop/start/stop, etc. because that means it's going.
T - Did more people get paid here in the USA last night? Yes, they did. And they were paid at that rate, we we are going to get paid at that rate. DO NOT - DO NOT - DO NOT buy dinar based on what I'm telling you. DO NOT put in a reserve based on what I'm telling you. I have been given 3 specific times this should happen between now and the end of the month - this week. It was supposed to happen last night and it didn't. It continuously happens but it might be a conclusion this time. Check out the book "Negotiating 101." It seems when everything is done and everybody is happy, something else comes up.
T - That one thing - this is the difference - every other time there were teams people could pick from, but this time it's down to a single individual against the world, trying to get something at the last minute. It doesn't really matter - there's a meeting going on right now in DC involving 5-6 countries, but ultimatums are being laid out and decisions are being made. Either way, YOU WIN! And that's what you should care about. There is a final date and it will be over in that timeframe. While we didn't have the RV last night, I am ecstatic today. The ride has stopped and they're ready to lift the bar and let us step off. It could happen at any moment.
T - Folks are on standby. They're not at all the call centers but they're within 30 minutes away. At this point there is no certain timeframe, i.e., no banks open/closed, CBI open, etc. we're past all of that. Yes, I'm superfantastic and I'm looking forward to it and it's a great day.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM NOW.....
Q - What happened to the 18th where LDs in Iraq? A - They're still there. The ATMs were filled with lower denoms. They don't go in and take back the money from the ATMs.
T - You still have problems with your belief systems and I understand that. I haven't told you a lot this morning for a reason. It's that close. It's such at a high level I'm sure they don't want me to say it here. Someone else sent me a PM today calling me a liar, so I kicked him off. The last thing I need to do is lie to a bunch of people I don't even know. I'm trying to help and bring the best info I can. I understand being frustrated.
Q - When idiots get out of line, could it stop the RV or lower our rate? A - My understanding is that if things get out of hand they will shut down certain locations, certain cities, and if it progresses they'll shut down the whole thing. They will look at targeted areas. They are depending on us to let people to whom we've given dinar notes know how to act. You have to explain they can't walk out with $100K. You have to explain the FINcen form to them BEFORE they go to the bank. They need to understand this. You need to send people to the banks knowledgeable. They will take in their one note to the bank BEFORE your appointment and it could shut down before you get there.
Q - If we negotiate the spread could we be put in the 50% tax bracket? A - No, that doesn't make sense. If you go above the $27.87 I understand they have traps for you and 50% is only 1 of them if you don't do it right. If you can do it the right way and avoid the traps.
Q - Does the $27.87 include the spread? A - No, it does not include the spread.
Q - What about wire transfers being held up? A - Once the money is in your account, do not wire out more than $500K the 1st 30 days or your account could be frozen. All of those have to be reviewed by Homeland Security. And they won't be in a hurry to do that. If you need over $500K get a cashier's check or use your black card.
Q - Will we still have 30 days to CE? A - Yes, they think they can get the majority of people done within 4 days, with all the banking centers working 24hrs/day. You still have 30 days but the majority should be done within the first 4 days.
Q - Please clarify about NIB accounts for each currency, then opening sweep accounts, close the 1st ones, etc. When can I move funds into my current checking account? A - You can move any exchanged currency except the IQN, because of the tax liabilities. When you exchange with a dealer, have the funds wired to your bank then move them to a new account, so no one has access to your account. You want it access-restricted so that no one, including tellers, have access to it.
T - Get a new computer to use exclusively for online banking so it's secure and hack-proof. Change your phone number, get your address off everything, get rid of your email addresses - make a clean cut so no one can access your accounts, hack your PC, send you requests, etc. Don't use the banking PC for any other use. Make sure your wealth manager restricts access so no one can contact you without going thru him/her.
Q - If we don't use a wire transfer to open an account, do we need to open a sweep account? A - No, if all you have is direct exchanges (no wires from dealers), then you don't need to open a 2nd sweep account at the time of your CE.
Q - Is the NDA vital to those we give gifts to? A - When you give it to them explain the NDA.
Q - Are the VIPs here for the UN celebration something related to the RV? A - You don't get all these folks in from other countries to come here on vacations for 10 days.
Q - Is there a particular time to look for the RV? A - I've been given 3 different times spread throughout the day. So just be available.
Q - What would the consequences if this goes beyond Nov. 1 or the first of the year? A - So much is happening today I'm not worried about that. Everyday things have changed - in the last 10 minutes things have changed.
Q - What about the bitcoin? A - I can't see it becoming a mainstream currency.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - If the high rates show up on the CBI website, what's the purpose of the NDA? T - The NDA isn't about the rates - it's about the fact you got to participate. It's to protect you from others who think the gov't has been lying to them for 10 years and calling this a scam.
C - When we give IQN to others, don't tell them to go to the bank, but to call the 800#. T - It would eliminate the problem if it's more than $25K. There are people who actually think they're going to the bank and walk out with $100K in cash. It's our responsibility to explain it to them. It's easier for you to tell 5 people than for me to tell 100K folks.
C - If I walk into a bank with a $25K note will they give us the high rate or the low rate? T - They will give you the rate showing on the screens ($27.87).
C - I want to confirm a few things: someone said this morning Iraq RVd at $20. T - If you can confirm that (anyone listening), please send me a text. I didn't hear anything about the mosques this morning.
T - I know people were cashing out yesterday at $26, but not that there was an announcement, but they're expecting an announcement.
C - It grieves me that somebody will die at Wal-Mart on Black Friday over a Ninetnedo or underwear - that peeps revert to animal behavior sometimes over something like that. Let's act classy, calm and collected about this. Help our brother and sister and be proud of our behavior.
C - What sort of contingency is there in place if this single individual vs. the world prevents it from happening? T - Okay, so here's an anology: they gave him a gun loaded with a single bullet and told him to either shoot the gun in the air and celebrate or put the gun to your head. I apologize for the analogy, but these are military people who understand that.
C - Please confirm that some were paid $26? T - That was in-country (Iraq) contractors.
C - Have they solved the announcement issue? T - Yes, that's solved. It's down to one person getting greedy here at the end. The announcement has been solved.
C - If the rate is on the CBI, then the dealers will offer that same rate? How do we sign an NDA if they don't even know about it? T - Yes, they will offer the CBI rate and they will know about it before it goes live. They would need to load an NDA into their system and have you sign an electronic signature. I just don't know. I asked the question and they told me they will have it before it goes live (DC told me the dealers will have it).
C - I can't believe callers here & OMC are concerned about negotiating a higher rate....I think $27 would be GREAT! Regarding wire transfers, is that cumulative over 30 days? T - No, it's a single wire transfer over $500K that triggers a lockdown.
C - Earlier this month you said there was a contract to expire on Oct 3 and if not met there would be fines. Is the US being fined? T - everytime it's their fault they are fined. Last week US, China, and Iraq met and finalized everything. They don't care about the money - it was about oil, survivability for the next 50 years.
C - Do I need an appointment to CE the VNN? T - If you walk into a bank with $100M VNN at $3-4, don't expect them to cash you out. You should know when you the restrictrions and that this type of transaction has to go to a higher authority. Smaller amounts are fine, but larger ones have to go higher than the branch manager and you will be asked to make an appointment with somebody that handles that.
C - I have a concern. I am semi-famous here. It's about my life and being an artist. Seeking the Lord. If I am going to promote my book, I need to be known. How do I become invisible again? T - Some celebrities change their names or get a pseudo-name.
T - You can establish the clown name and sign everything as xxxx the clown. Not that hard. Ppl that do for a living. Have your legal name removed.
T - I need to apologize for saying "idiot" so much. This came out of ther other situation and I'm trying to get out of it.
C - I've seen we will pay only 11% tax. Does that apply to people who have held their IQN less than a year? T - I don't know. I've heard long term, short term, and from DC a new law for 1-2% by Nov. But i'm telling you part of the trap is going above the $27 because you will be taxed at 50%. I don't think we'll know until Feb. 1 when the first quarterly taxes are due, maybe by Jan 1.
C - Is the VNN going to coming to come out at the exact same time as the IQN? T - Yes, exact same time.
C - I want to use Abbott-Downing at WF and want to know about either going with G64 Group or individually? T - I don't know that the rate will be any different. It was initially but they've leveled the playing field, so I've been told. Because there was so much controversy on the boards, the way it was being presented, people not happy, etc. they leveled the playing field so you can exchange without it. A new email went out this morning about the database and who has it - and I question those things. There are more groups out there than that one. You must know who you're dealing with and what you're sharing. If you don't mind giving them your email address, fine. With just WF if you give them the email address you used there (G64), you will be taxed.
C - A few calls ago you intimated that the $27 rate wouldn't last 30 days? T - No, I don't think it will last 30 days. That is not going to be THE rate, so at some point it has to go down. And they're not going to tell you - it will be a gradual climb down. I don't expect it stay at that rate for a whole 30 days. A float doesn't work that way.
C - Is the new currency coming out going to be gold-backed? T - Basel II is gold-backed. Do you really think you're going to wake up one morning and find out your FRN are no good? How many have seen the new $100 bills? How long has it been out now? What about the rest of the world? And all that's going to happen at one time? The Treasury Notes are the notes backing this currency. It amazes me what these other people are saying, but there you go.
C - What I don't understand is if elites are getting paid or it goes live long enough for others to get paid, how can it just go live for a certain group and not for everybody? How could it come out at any other rate? T - The rate has been decided and agreed upon and that's what they're paying out on. The system is "live" and there, but it hasn't been pushed to the teller screens. They could release it in the next 5 minutes or next 5 hours. They pushed it to the teller screens in the middle of the night when the banks are closed. It's already being traded on that rate. It's just a matter of when it goes public so the economy can start trading on it as well. We are not the only country doing it. Regarding the rates, they're signing NDAs and Clawback Agreements - if the rate comes in different they have to pay the difference back. If something happens at the last minute and the rate changes, they have to pay it back. There is a method and agreement in place.
C - Where is this celebration going to be held if it's not a public event? How can they celebrate if we don't know about it? T - It's not a public event. They have parties all the time. It won't be on the 6 O'Clock News. Have you seen anything on the news about all the dignitaries that are here? No. Did you hear anything about meetings going on last night? No. Usually when PMs and Presidents come here it's on the news. But you don't see this this time.
C - I opened an account with $100. Can I deposit my exchange there? T - My understanding is that the account should be zero when you make your CE deposit.
C - If I have several accounts at different banks and have them wire the money to different banks will that be a problem? T - You'll have to see what kinds of restrictions they have about moving funds.
C - In reality when we go in to do the CE the guy before me could get one rate and then mine could be different, right? T - Yes, it could. They can't give you a lower rate than is on their system. You can always ask them to turn the screen around so you can see the rate yourself.
C - Is the person holding it up the same as the person wanting a third term? T - I plead the Fifth. C - That answers my question.
C - Can you clarify the $500K deposit? T - They don't want you wiring more than $500K within the 1st 30 days or you could find your account frozen.
CALLER ASKING HOUSEKEEPING QUESTION....
C - How long does it take to complete the FINcen form? T - It only gets filled out if you take out $10K or more in cash and the bank completes it for you.
C - I want to give money to my church. Is that a problem? T - You can get a cashier's check or use your Visa, etc. They track everyone.
C - When people call the 800#s, would it be fair to ask if the location they send you to will verify the currency there? T - Remember these are call centers and they won't know every location that has a DeLarue Machine. They have 2 minutes to know where to send you.
C - Will the bank rate be considered the street rate? T - Yes. $27.87.
C - When you make an appointment, can you also take the VNN with you? T - I'd take it all and do it up front. They should be able to accept it.
T - It's that time of day. I'm feeling really good today. I can update you now that all call-center and cash-in people are in place since we started the call. It is closer than you think it is. The system is alive, well, and activated. All the reps who put this together are meeting together for a reason you will love. Something is about to happen - get ready - be ready - get prepared. I'm planning on another blast or call before the Friday call.
END OF CALL.