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[FLPatriot59] TNT CALL ABOUT TO START....T = TONY | C = CALLER
TONY - Good morning TNT Dinar! It's Wednesday, Oct. 30 at 1:12 PM EDT. We're just getting started! This could be a short call. Or it could be a long call depending on the questions. I've got 2 things. Pam sent me some questions. Montana sent me some "intelligent" questions. LOL. And then I saw some on the board. I'll try do some of all of those.
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T - Here's something I have to tell you. My request is that anybody who saw the article out of Iraq about the 3-zero notes, please send us the link. As far as that is concerned, I talked with several dealers and some know about that, and others do not. Some of them think that they're confusing the 3-zero notes from Iraq with the Swiss Dinar, which originated in the Kurdistan region.
T - The majority of people with good sources know that Maliki and Barzani are both here. They are still having discussions today. They have had meetings with the state department here in the US for the past 3-4 days. People with resources and DC contacts can go out and verify that is a fact. You don't have to trust me, but I've verified up, down, and sideways. I know that he's been in meetings and who the security force that has been assigned to him. He will be here thru Friday.
T - As for the banks and the 3-zero notes, out of the new book effective 11/01, verified again this morning. I actually went to the bank and looked at the currency catalog - the newest one. I looked at it and there are no lower denoms in it. I asked repeatedly and told them they are in the new book. I already know the person who first told me who works at the bank. And from Canada their bank person said the LDs are in the new catalog. But when I got to the bank and looked at the bank, the date on the back of the book was dated 2012. Well, the bank manager comes over and tells me they're still waiting on the new book. They JUST DON'T KNOW - DON'T HAVE A CLUE what's going in their own banks. Don't call the banks!
T - Every bank DOES NOT have the new catalog yet.
T - Maliki was in meetings yesterday and again today. We found out overseas that some official notification was given to them to expect it. I try to give you both sides of the story: the book comes out 11/01 and there should be some changes in it. So where are we now and why are we here?
T - Everything is set for the RV. Should've gone thru last Friday. At the last minute, more negotiations. They are trying to do what's right on a global scale for everybody. So that the effect is a lasting one. They're trying to get the greatest benefit for everybody, which is why the rates keep going up. They don't care about us or who we are. What they don't want the masses here or around the world how this was put together: who put it together and who authorized it. That's why we have the NDAs. It has to look like a natural occurence by the countries involved.
T - It's the growth of their country, their decision, etc. You can't do that and have the country not supporting it. What happened this past week that everything was ready to go, somebody tried to negotiate some more power and authority out of the deal. And tried to negotiate security in the form of self-preservation, i.e., agreements that were already made concerning other countries.
T - Yesterday everybody was in agreement. There was a set time yesterday for this to happen. But they're still talking this morning. So instead of deciding to do and walking away from the table, they find other things to negotiate. I'm still looking at 11/1 as the back wall. Today, tomorrow, or the next hour.
T - BREAKING NEWS.... just got this text: on Iraqi TV it is scrolling telling them "soon" their IQD will increase in value even greater than recent increases. This is very positive and good for us. You guys are involved "in the minute" as things change. Know that it is out there and some have gone to their banks and seen them out there (LDs).
T - I've been telling you for years they are monitoring our boards and these calls. They told me yesterday that the NDA we talked about is now 19 pages long - from 5 pages to 19 pages - making adjustments based on what they hear us talking about. They're trying to reduce the language down to 11 pages. But just yesterday it went from 11 to 19 pages, based on what they're hearing from other calls and on other boards (not just us). It is going on! They are trying to protect us from us.
T - They don't want the rest of the world mad at us if they find out. You got money and they didn't. They will be mad because of your new house, new car, new clothes, etc. and they're still working. They'll not be mad at you for what you have but for why you didn't tell them. What makes you so special? Once you give your friends/family their own foreign currency, they will sign their own NDA and you will no longer be responsible for them. Added to the NDA yesterday: even if you anonymously talk to any media, if they can in any way, form or fashion they can determine it was you they can take back all your money. That was directly related to what was talked about on the boards.
T - Some are talking about filing lawsuits because it's not happening fast enough for you...how does that make sense? Because they got paid before you and you want to complain? This was NEVER about us - now people are complaining about something that has nothing to do with us.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM....
Q - if the CE happens at 2AM, when will the info be on the home page? A - Tony Blasts you can't comment on. Since we don't have a text system, I'm going to do a Tony Blast RV announcement and one with the 800#s. Both will be copied and pinned to the top of the Forum. You go in and click "notify when someone replies" on those 2 posts via notifications. When it happens I'll do an update and everybody who clicked to receive notification updates will do so immediately. DO NOT RESPOND OR POST A REPLY TO THESE 2 UPDATES or you will be deleted.
Q - If everything was 100% resolved on Friday why are we still waiting? A - Because at the last minute someone wants something else. It goes from one level to another. At some point it has to be cut off. Hopefully that will be on Friday when their new 10-year plan kicks in. They've been having meetings everyday at the WH since they've been here.
Q - If we don't RV this week will we still have 30 days? A - Yes, nothing has changed. It starts the day the RV is effective.
Q - If this doesn't RV by 11/01 and no removal of the 3-zero notes, can we still buy LD notes? A - They can't sell them anymore but I will call and get verification on this.
Q - will we be at the banks by Friday? A - Right now there is nobody at the call centers and they're not planning to be there this evening. They might be there later tonight and they're planning to be there tomorrow. It can change any moment.
Q - We were told that Iraq was out of the picture and had nothing to do with it. A - I'm trying to tell you that it's not the desired way to do it. They would like to keep the plan because it is a better world view that way.
T - Here's a question I don't like answering. And I don't like you putting this pressure on me:
Q - Is 5/3 Bank part of the CE? My dad is dying and won't make it thru tomorrow and I need to set up bank accounts before then. A - I don't like being put in this position. 5/3 is participating and every indication is that this should be over by Friday.
Q - Now that we're inching closer to the 11/1 back wall date, is there anything left to be done? A - Yes, one more thing but I can't answer it. I do know what the issue is - it's bigger than us - it's a gov't issue that they have to work out. Is it important? Yes, I've given you the fringes of it, i.e., self-preservation and timelines. I can't get into specifics on this call.
Q - If this goes past 11/1 what else? A - There are not a lot of delays. The info I got yesterday, last night, and this morning was so minute that there is nothing to talk about. They're still having a little brouhaha (volume-changing discussions). This could be the calm before the storm. But they added to the NDA based on what folks are saying on the boards. It went to 19 pages but they're still trying to shorten the NDA to 11 before you sign your life away. You have 2 options: sign and get paid or not sign and don't get paid.
Q - Will the TNT website be up post-RV? A - I'm not sure how much they want me to give out and how much I will be able to give out after the announcement. The problem, as it was explained to me, there are so many different agencies with their own guidelines, I don't know where it will fall into. The NDA falls under Homeland Security. I'm not sure which agency governs which. We may take the site and callit a "Millionaires Club" to discuss investments. I'm sure we'll get some direction.
Q - Is the holdup the UST's fault? A - No.
Q - Will there be another rate increase? A - It is being discussed.
Q - What about the $500K limit on wire transfers. A - You must deposit your money somewhere so to avoid a freeze on your account what is the other option?
Q - Is there a problem with the dealers wiring $ to our accounts? A - They're expecting the dealers to wire funds into the accounts. But once it's in the account that's where they start watching. The best bet is just don't do it. It's better safe than sorry. Talk to your banker.
Q - What about wiring money into offshore accounts already set up? A - Talk to your banker.
Q - What is the timeframe once it's activated and the 800#s are released? A - 10 minutes once the "go" is given. The plan as of last night and this morning is to have people in the banks within 2 hours of the release if it happens in early morning or during the day. If it's in the middle of the night the Call Center people will be called in at 5AM to be in place by 6-7 AM.
Q - Can a husband and wife go together and put it in the same bank account? A - Each bank has their own limits on the amount they can accept each day.
T -You should separate your IQD from USD. Walk to the teller window, withdraw all from your current account, get a printout to prove the account is zeroed out, then deposit your IQD in it.
Q - What's the process when we get the 800#? A - They are going to ask for your name, email address and how much IQD you have. Use whatever email address you want but I'm getting a separate from any email address anyone ever had for me.
"LIVE" CALL-IN STARTING NOW... C = CALLER | T = TONY
C - I heard that Cheney and Valerie Jarrett were holding this up? A - People were brought into the conversation for the exact opposite of what you were saying.
C - Is the 11/01 deadline Iraq's? A - It is their cut-off, not ours. It should be their November 1st since it's their country and their currency.
Q - Is the bank expecting you to sign the NDA on my first visit or can I take it to my attorney to review? T - You will sign it before you exchange and they will call you in periodically to update it.
C - What is the line we can use that will satisfy everybody and not invalidate the NDA? A - They haven't come out with the line yet.
C - If the rate drops down to $19 can we still negotiate back up to the $27+ rate? T - If you so choose to gamble and ask for the ceiling rate (if you know what it is), or any rate higher, if you don't ask in the right way with the right procedures it will hurt you. The rate on the board now ($27.87) - it's actually higher now - if you ask for the $27.87 rate and the rate has dropped by the time you get to your appointment to, say, $24.64, that's the rate you're going to get.
PLEASE STAND BY...TONY STEPPED AWAY FROM THE CALL...
T - Frank just called me and he verified that it was a rumor about 11/1. But it happens all the time and they're not paying any attention to it. Let's just hope they stick with it.
C - How do you feel about the dealers? DinarTrade said they'd stop on the 25th but I haven't heard anything from others. T - I'd rather not discuss that right now. I have nothing against them but I don't want to get involved in anybody's business. I think DinarTrade was smart to cut off reserves because that means he heard the rumors. He's not getting caught. He could be under a different program than the others. Some exchangers actually buy their currency and have it on hand. Others negotiate with the banks and have it on retainer. But at some point they have to say "pay me for it or send it back."
C - If you were in my position should I go elsewhere to get my reserves, knowing what you know? A - I would not say that at this point because it could have a profound effect on someone's business. At this stage in the game, I don't think so.
C - If we don't have a final draft of the NDA then we don't have an RV yet. Since it's gone from 5 pages to 19 pages, maybe we should ban this NDA thing from the boards just like talking about NESARA, etc. Ban the NDA talk - everybody will sign it. T - They are absolutely going to come after some people and they want to close every loophole possible.
C - Tomorrow with this 11am-11:15am mtg with Maliki and Obama, this would be a great time to show solidarity. T - They are going to say something about it, but it won't be "RV - go to the bank."
C - Have you received an notification that this is going down? T - No, I've never gotten it or any 800#s. I've gotten notice after when it was supposed to happen. Right now I'm calm because they're not even there.
C - Do you know anything about the zero dinar note? T - If anyone can find the new updated book effective Nov. 1, we just need someone to go in and see it. They probably won't let you take a picture of it. Just look at it for verification.
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C - If you have a $25K note can you exchange without an appointement? T - If you call the 800# you will be given an appointment. But you can walk in without an appointment with up to $25K. Their goal is to make appointments within the next 4 days.
C - This is getting scary. If they have us sign a 19-page NDA how are they going to handle those who've signed the 5-page NDA? T - They will monitor you for 10 years and afterwards it will be de-classified. You might be iin the shadows locally but nationally you'll be watched.
C - If Iraq has $25K notes lopped, will ours be affected? T - No, they will not be affected.
C - How hard is the IMF leaning towards 11/1? T - They are leaning on it real hard. And if they don't see anything working towards that they will take steps accordingly. What's really funny - and not easy to do - is break the NDA down to a 6th grade level. It used to be 8th grade level for peeps to understand it without an attorney. They've got somebody doing nothing but re-writing the NDA.
C - Will Frank let you know if the rates will be the same? T - All he's said is that he will only do the market rate.
C - I was superfantastic when the call started. Not it's about as clear as mud. Initially we're supposed to have a 20-minute appointment to read and sign the NDA and complete the FINcen? T - I'm not going to read it. I'm just going to sign it and tell them "give me my money.
C - The $31 rate is not the market rate, right? T - It's still on the bank screens. They feel it is the actual live rate and people were paid out at those rates. They are trying to get more but we don't know if it worked or not. It has been part of the discussion.
C - One comment is that people need to understand is that post-RV people need to get healthcare or they'll be taxed at 1% of income or $95/month, per the AHC Act. T - It would be smart to have healthcare. it's a good thing that people should be looking at doing.
C - Will there be something in the NDA to protect us from others who might lie or give a false report about us to cause problems because they didn't know about it? T - Everyone who exchanges will have to sign the NDA. Even if I'm giving somebody cash I'm having them sign an NDA to protect myself. How can they protect you from somebody like that? They can investigate and ask if you did anything to further the false report. You're innocent until proven guilty.
C - You had said that you were not accepting any more members on TNT Dinar. Is there a possibility that I can be included in the future and accepted into a future site about investments? T - I don't know how I'm going to do it. I'll set up something - we'll get it done.
T - Let's do a quick review: new NDA coming out, 19 pages as of yesterday. They are trying to get it down to 11 pages. They are absolutely listening to these boards and updating accordingly. Everything we're hearing about 11/1 is strong. They're saying it's rumor over there but we're seeing it in other places here, i.e., banking systems, financial people, so it appears to be more than rumor here. Meetings in DC have been happening all week. Yesterday they broke off with all in agreement. They have set a date and time for this to happen. I still believe Nov. 1 is the back wall. You should be excited - spend some time helping each other. We have a lot of newbies, so be nice in the forums and on the boards. They're asking questions so let's educate them. Be nice! Once this happens we'll do the same thing helping people - no longer dinarians but rather people helping people. Have a great day...thanks to all the mods and transcribers. I keep getting good news even now but they keep saying not to say this on the call. But I think we'll see it by 11/01. Have a great day!
END OF CALL.