[mr timothy] there is a change in the wind, changes they are coming
[duffy2] Currencies RV – 1st Basket Posted on 02/11/2013 My the ‘rumors’ just keep coming…? This is one of several ‘lists’ sent to me. …and they all get to wait… FOR? There is another (main) shoe to fall first. ~ Drake 1st Basket RV’s: Here is a list of the currencies that are updating together in the 1st basket:: jod = Jodan dinar sos = Somali Shilling scr = Seychellois Rupee std = Sao Tomean Dodras tnd = Tunisian Dollar syp = Syrian Pound tzs = Tanzanian Shilling myr = Malaysian Ringg aed = United Arab Emirates Dirham pen = Peruvian Nuevo php = Philippine Peso qar = Qatari Rial nad = Namibian Dollar mzn = Euro ngn = Nigerian Naira omr = Omani Rial cny = Chinese Yuan kzt = Kazakhstani Tenge lbp = Labanese Pound vnd = Vietnam Dong iqd = Iraqi Dinar cop = Colombia Peso bob = Bolivian Boliviano vef = Venezuelan Bolivar
[ericasmom] duffy2 this sounds so nice!!!
[duffy2] Drake does not say what the other shoe is yet to drop in the post above. Hope it drops fast though.
[rich17] I still have questions about the post above about currencies. Included in that basket is Venezuela. And it RV'd last Friday. How can it go and the others not if they are in the same basket. Can somebody help me with this?
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[mr timothy] venezuela was devalued
[rich17] mr timothy But that is still a revalue. The value changed. We have been told some will go up...some will go down. But if it really was in the basket, how can it go and the basket not go? Looks like it went by itself...or are the others to follow? And how long can a basket be split up and still be a basket?
[mr timothy] maybe they lowered it to sell more till it revalues up
[crafter] rich17 Yes, they made known they were dissatisfied with the IMF and did it out of spite. It will revalue.
[crafter] rich17 They did manage to cause a mess.
[rich17] crafter It will revalue or did revalue?
[mr timothy] all currancys change daily , maybe they needed publicity to sell more so when it revalues they will make more
[mr timothy] the yen devalued also
[crafter] rich17 At some point it will revalue--when I am not sure.
[rich17] mr timothy I don't really think so. 47 percent is a pretty big change for the day
[rich17] crafter I think it has revalued. Its value moved down 47 percent. Based on their assets and balance sheet that is what it was supposed to do. I think it is done
[mr timothy] the yuan also went down
[crafter] rich17 As I said, they were unhappy with the IMF. Can you imagine the money its citizens and businesses lost. They will revalue down the road
[rich17] mr timothy That maybe so...but it has not revalued. Venezuela made the national news with theirs. I think their deal is done.
[mr timothy] the usa is down 1.49%
[rich17] mr timothy Those are daily swings...not an RV
[rich17] Venezuela RV'd
[crafter] rich17 Remember, an RV is not a one-time shot. It is done frequently
[rich17] I wish Viet Nam and China would get tired of waiting and go ahead like Venezuela did
[crafter] rich17 We know Iraq has at least 6 RV's
[rich17] crafter When was the last one? Not too frequent I don't think
[crafter] rich17 I think downward when USA and UN dropped the value. Remember people saying Friday was most popular.
[nano36] rich17 yes, that would be nice to someone step out and go up in value instead of down
[EnoughAlready] The reason for the De-Valuation was because of the very high Inflation rate. By lowering the value now goods and services have to come in line with the value of the currency. It really should have been a 55% De-Valuation.
[crafter] EnoughAlready That is correct, but, it could revalue again--up or down. It is not set in stone.
[rich17] I'm just saying based on the list of currencies posted in that basket I think it is a real positive that Venezuela stepped out...but the longer it goes the less likely I think these currencies are going to go as a basket. Time for somebody else to step outI
[mr timothy] I'm just saying these daily swings make someone rich that's all, whats to say Ven can't revalue again when this happens ( I m thinking these are the currancy wars the g-20 is talking about
[EnoughAlready] When a currency does a Re-De Valuation there's retain parameters it must stay for a period of time and then it will have a preset percentage to go up and down. Every currency swings daily to trading volume.
[mr timothy] yep, believe me I am no expert that's all I can say
[rich17] EnoughAlready I agree. I'm not worried about the subsequent changes...I plan on cashing the moment our currencies RV.
[mr timothy] me too
[nano36] rich17 mr timothy yes, me too.
[BLESSME] Jester time to wake up wildduck
[Jester] BLESSME you are making me nervous... i told you what he said already... lol
[BLESSME] Jester I am Always nervous lol
[Jester] the question you want to know is when... and he wants you to think for yourselves and see the reality of the situation.. and that reality is a huge picture with a lot of pieces that is not completly put together yet... and our little piece is the iraqi dinar.. and it will fit into place when the picture is done...
[Digs] Jester just worried about the length of time it will take to complete putting the picture together...
[Jester] when compared to that huge puzzle... the one little piece we are focused on is so small... that is the point he is trying to make...there are not many pieces left...
[GuatieIsBack] Jester And like any puzzles, the last few usually go faster. Important things have been happening faster than ever
[paradisegirl] Jester for those of us with no sources and/or knowledge of the inner workings of this event, putting the pieces of the puzzle together has been challenging, but I am now seeing it all come together. It's been challenging to know which world events are part of this event and which are not.
[Jester] just to warn you he told me last night he has a busy day in the real world today... so be patient... and if he does come in it would be good if you listened and did not distract him with rate and date...
[Jester] paradisegirl the pieces are getting laid out on the table for everyone as best we can... but some are so focused on rate and date they dont recognize them as such...
[puppylove] Jester Good point. Please understand when people come in to share information it in on their schedule, not ours. Many still work in the real world... thanks
[Jester] paradisegirl and for those of you trying to put it togther... like yourself and some others in this room... my hat is off to you..
[Jester] if you get the BIG picture you see what is going on and know what to expect to a certain extent...
[Jester] i have learned with the duck that if you listen to what he is saying and dont interrupt you will get more from the conversation by not distracting him...
[findmoney] This will help u understand it. Only 10 minutes. And very accurate on where we are today. Take 10 mins and watch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajMza3w1ntY
[redhead1] Jester - I do not need to put it together - I believe Wildduck when he says it is DONE - I just want to know if I am going to the bank today? lol I think we are putting way to much emphasis on details - it is after all a currency exchange and the other countries also want to RV.
[cashinqueen1] Interesting today is the State of the Union on Lincolns Birthday
[paradisegirl] Jester we really appreciate you and the duck helping us with the big picture. kudos
[jcole] It's way more than a currency exchange
Jester] redhead1 so true however again... we are a very small part of it... it is not about us at all.... it is about the global economy and this just happens to be the small part we know about and can take advantage of...
sailman] Jester Speaking of over and over --- have you heard anything more about "closed door" meetings in Iraq --- not sure if the budget matters but things sure like to be put off over there
[Jester] sailman i can address that... so if you have something that depends on something else... and the one thing would be proof of the other.... but the other is not quite ready yet... then you cannot but delay the first thing right?
[sailman] Jester very true --- but which one isn't ready :)) I truly think we are waiting for the "big boys" to move the RV so they keep saying -- Make up those excuses and move the Budget Date :))
[Jester] we have said over and over... why no annoucement one way or the other on the chapter 7? makes no sense not to say it if it is NOT done... report usually given in 48 hrs... it has been 7 weeks... what does that tell you? maybe they are hiding it for a reason?
[Jester] sailman a gold star for you
[Jester] so all these things in iraq tell you what? they only move a little at a time...
[sailman] Robertprofessor Jester Only question I have is "who ae the Big Boys" --- can it REALLY be just a single Person (ie Mr. O) or is it more than likely the IMF
[Jester] sailman IMF wants to get this done...
[heyu288] Jester IMHO they are only "allowed" to move a little at a time... their people are not happy and are not afraid to show it.... not like her with more mouth and very little action... there they are more apt to act on feelings.
[Digs] Jester are you in the camp that believes that things posted in the chatroom could have a negative effect on the release of this RV? as we've always been told for years how these sites are "Watched" by the PTB's...
[heyu288] Digs of course they are..... don't forget to wave and offer refreshments... they will remember later.. roflmao
[Robertprofessor] sailman I can only venture a guess that cannot be confirmed; however, I don't believe there's a small group, hidden from public view, that makes the real decisions. I also cannot prove it, but I do think O has been a brakeman to what we want.
[Jester] Digs not really... they know we know... why would they care if we act silly about it in a chat room?
[Digs] Jester ok, they why the need for some to speak in code... why not just come right out an say whats going on or what they're being told at that time?
[bookings] Digs Digs you didnt ask me that, but my take on that is this. I think those ptb has a lot more on their plate to do, than watch a chat site jimo
[sailman] Jester OK we have IMF wanting it done --- we have Mr. O wanting to control the usa population through taxation -- we have China exerting influence all over the world -- we have Europe in Crisis and the UN emasculated through the inactions of it's members --- SOO who in the financial profits waiting?
[Jester] sailman the people... the humanitarian effort will improve the world when this goes through... heck.. we are lookign to improve a whole country by ourselves when this goes down..anyway... the world will benefit all over the place from all the changes being made now
[Robertprofessor] Jester I'm interested in knowing your opinion on "back wall" dates. It seems to me that all of them so far have been attached to Iraqi performance. If we accept the premise, that this is about a global reset of currencies, global financial settlements, etc., then back wall dates are silly.
weimar] Robertprofessor they are best guesses - I don't think anyone knows anything but snippets from some well connected people
[weimar] In the last year + I have heard some really good back walls, some really good reasons for this to drop etc and then nothing (although it sure appears like something needs to happen)
[sailman] 3Jester Robertprofessor heyu288 weimar So if I was to guess at timing -- I would say this week possibly but more like sometime before the 23rd. of Feb. --- I think that is the date that they have to start to repay IMF back for operating loans and the end of thier Stand by Agreement
[Robertprofessor] sailman But isn't that based on Iraqi performance? What if we postulate that Iraq has in fact done all that is required for the RV and that any political fighting is feined, but we don't see the RV by Feb. 23? Might that mean that something outside Iraq was not in position?
weimar] RV Robertprofessor I am of the opionion that Iraq has no say, they might be what folks are looking at, but for a globale resettlement, why iraq?
[sailman] Robertprofessor No -- I believe that as well --- but Iraq still has some International Obligations concerning monies oweing that need to be tied up. Also, this "reset" seems to be moving somewhat - although slowly -- some currencies are already changing in advance to the "global" repositioning
[Robertprofessor] weimar I'm with you on that point. I accept as fact that Shabibi wanted this done by June 30, 2011. I accept as fact that Iraq has met all conditions a long time ago. The "delay" is not about Iraq at all.
[sailman] Robertprofessor Actually I think they need the RV to fulfill those obligations without crippling the country financially for the short term. The Paris Agreement is just one example of the needs
[findmoney] When a story doesnt make sense follow the money! Pope resigns BIG MONEY AT THE VATICAN BANK! QUEEN B of the Netherlands steps DOWN BIG MONEY Queen of England being audited HUGE MONEY! ALL happening right in front of our beedy eyeballs. The ships are sinking
[Robertprofessor] sailman What you say fits into my picture of this macro event. Nothing remaining for Iraq that can be done prior to the RV. I see them as far more desirous of the "big day" than we are, if that can be imagined!
[Maryrose] findmoney makes sense
findmoney] Stop worrying about Iraq. Thats just a side show
[Jester] all i am trying to do help everyone make sense of the reality of the situation... it is about so much more than what we are focused on and we need to broaden our thinking into a world veiw when looking at it...
MIG Ghost: while we wait...Kuwait Info (history on their currency) .. Kuwait RV and News Articles (archive) ..
AFTER THE WAR; No Electricity but Kuwait Reopens Its Banks http://www.nytimes.com/1991/03/25/world/after-the-war-no-electricity-but-kuwait-reopens-its-banks.html