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[DISCLAIMER: This is not without error, omission, or typo’s.] -- Pre-Call Chatter:
WD: We started to see things taken back – they all said the Erbil was complete. To those who are new, notice they give us tons of information and try to take it back which is propaganda.
M: Even though, you’ll see 2-3 articles buried somewhere that still tells you the stuff they told us earlier. They’re just buying time.
WD: We’re getting ready to see it with a very nice conclusion with the National Meeting – we should see it tomorrow or Monday – one or two may have already occurred like Erbil simply because they don’t have much time with the Saudi Arabia and the Arab nations.
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RIVERGIRL: Article that came out yesterday morning early about the oil. We’re posting in both skype rooms so you can read along.
SUPPORT THE CURRENCY AND INCREASING THE DINAR TO MAKE INTERNATIONAL CURRENCY DINAR DEAL TO SELL OIL RATHER IN US DOLLARS AND SELL THIS OIL FOR SUPPORT AND INCREASE IN VALUE
The sale of crude in Iraqi dinar will increase the sales and force the world to use the IQD abroad. The CBI doesn’t approve the sale in dinars because of special security situations after 2003 indicating this process needs to be with SECURITY and to prevent fraud.
WD: I always felt that this is behind that. In 2010 there was a big fight…I’ve discussed this before and the politicans are putting this up now is correct. The Kurds had to negotiate contracts and the Chinese said they wanted Iraqi dinar…not dollars.
The Finance Comm. Said they were still going to pay in dinar. But the benefit that the politicians in Iraq they’re speaking of – if they start forcing selling in dinar it’s going to facilitate it to RV even quicker at the new rate.
What that does is gives Iraq a win-win because they plan on the dinar being 3-4 x the dollar rate so when you look at the Chinese, it’s about 26 cents vs. 4.20 (just speculating) – so Iraq wins on both ends…they sell you the oil but you have to pay them in tons of their currency to meet their price.
In future years, if it goes up iraq’s going to make a killing…that’s why the politicians are so smart and I think Maliki and Shabibi can’t wait to have an economic edge like that. This article was sweet…
I remember in 2010 when the Kurds were trying to negotiate with .86 -1.13 – the big fight was to get them to allow them to have these companies in China and Russia paying in dinar and the central government said no.
That would have been a big plus…and now the politicians are talking about it again and hopefully will be coming out of this national meeting and there will be no more dollar oil.
For it to be .86-1 – it’s not US money – the US is warehousing the …and B…Iraq wants those countries to pay their rate vs. dinar and the RV rate so Iraqi started warehousing others’ currencies for even a greater foreign currency reserve.
There’s a lot of other things behind us, but we’re on track, the people in power are asking the right questions doing the right thing and hopefully we’ll see the RV that will be well founded.
RIVERGIRL: PARLIAMENT PAYING WITH THE SUMMIT – article was out on Thursday. THE ECONOMIC COMMITTEE FOR 2012 KNOWS ADDITIONAL FINANCIAL – CANNOT MAKE A LOAN FOR THE SUMMIT.
THE GENERAL BUDGET DIDN’T INCLUDE FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS FOR THE SUMMIT – LAST YEAR IT WAS LARGE AND ADEQUATE TO PURCHASE ARMY VEHICLES.
THEY ANNOUNCED FOR APPROVAL TO PAY IN ADVANCE FOR THE SUMMIT $100 BILLION DOLLARS…A STATEMENT AND COPY OF IT TO APPROVE THE BUDGET PAID BY THE MINISTRY OF FINANCE AND ANY LOANS FOR THE SUMMIT MUT HAVE FOR THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES.
THE INTEGRITY COMMITTEE GOT A FORMAL LETTER FOR 400 ARMORED CARS FROM THE GOVERNMENT.
WD: This article you and I discussed….look, I’m curious how they’re going to get the $100 billion out of the 2011 budget. They either have to open the budget or another way of doing it. There’s a lot of articles about it.
I’ve seen a few budgets in my lifetime and for them to do that I don’t think that Finance Committee is happy so we’ll have to wait…they said they advanced it from the previous budget (2011) –that budget was loaded with money –
I’ve been saying that for a couple of years….the money was there for the restructuring the country and that’s why Maliki stuck his hand in it and they’re doing that it again…so when they restructure the currency, that’s our money.
Let’s see how they move in the next couple of days how they move it…they’re doing a lot of things behind the scenes….and the people….Monica read the article about that.
RIVERGIRL: It’s long, but I’ll give you a couple paragraphs and put it in the chat room.
WD: The jest is I’m trying to get it right….the money from 2011 is going to pay for the summit and the people in Iraq are starting to ask politicians…what about our well being and the last time Maliki gave t em several issues about the card – one was the $1500 – we can’t figure out if they’re at the end…and Erbil is done.
RIVERGIRL: THE INFORMATION OFFICE WILL PAY AN OFFICIAL VISIT TO KUWAIT…HE DIDN’T SPECIFIY DATES BUT THE BI-LATERAL RELATIONS BETWEEN THE 2 COUNTRIES.
WD: This is important to discuss and hopefully we’ll get a bunch of questions. Najif is going to ….Kuwait. I told how the Prince of Saudi Arabia cancelled the Arab Summit as he told the news media that they weren’t going to convene for: 1) no security and 2) their financial abilities with their currency so we’re not coming…(2011).
Najif is the speaker of the Parliament so he can easily represent Iraq…I’m sure he’s going to talk to him about their status that we haven’t seen yet. Remember, they already had Erbil done and that will be given us after the National Meeting…we have that in writing. HCL…done, not give us yet.
I’m sure and here’s the proof of it…that’s why that letter is powerful, not to just go there and be friendly…they’re powerful dudes. These people are playing….they’re trying to keep that press in line…we don’t have a number of days to call the summit off and that’s in our favor, so let’s just watch and see if they call the summit off, we’re going to struggle with this currency.
We have no proof of that and I don’t think they’ll do that this time. Thanks, Monica, this was one of the best article this week.
RIVERGIRL: The shorter ones are sometimes the best…you have to read between the lines and I was really excited about that.
WD: 2 + 2 – Maliki and Kuwait shaking hands …they said it was an “excellent” visit and they got a lot of things solved. Now, Najif going to Saudi Arabia…these people are getting all the major players at the end of the process in line right now…they want to roll this out 1-2-3- with no hitches.
Just like we got this information, we can get a flood of it because when we start getting good information, it normally starts on Wed, but this week it’ll be earlier and we’ll see they have at least two of those from the national meeting.
I want you to understand ERBIL is designed to set 3 ministers place…we got a letter today that the interior ministers will be finished this week…I don’t care about that..if Erbil is done, Allawi knows the ministers to put in place and Maliki has nothing to do with them anymore…so everybody be clear on that and Allawii promised they’d be done in 3 days…let’s give him his 3 days if he hasn’t done it yet.
When I give projections we need to stay in place, these people will give us a ton of information and it’ll go real fast. I heard somebody call the RV yet and I just want to laugh....these things have to be done.
RIVERGIRL: Please pay attention to the deals going on and somebody accidentally put it in print. (Monica read the long article.) BEHIND CLOSE DOORS
WD: These folks set aside …Najif , if Parliament is trying to balk Parliament on an issue, it was proven by two of our sources and when people look them in the face, they’ve been doing this stuff, but now it’s pretty transparent to the people.
Let’s put it out, we want our government complete, we want our ration cards, our Smart Cards…and stop all of this frustrating stuff before the division creeps in again…and violence.
Maliki likes to operate like that so the Sunni could keep an edge and some politicians like the Shites too….Talabani, Allawi, Barzaini said enough is enough…there’s no more playing.
Everyone wants the national conference to be held…the plan: when the national meeting takes place we’ll see Erbil and HCL, it’s done.
I GUARANTEE you, if Allawi drags his feet, the Kurds will force the budget open…there’s naysayers, but when they say that’s what they’re doing, you have to trust that.
We’ve always said there’s a few ways to happen and Parliament gave us a 3rd – Maliki to stand up and say he has the Ministers of Interior, Security and he has a complete GOI and we RV.
Also…Allawi can announce he’s got his 3 ministers….Maliki announces the GOI is complete and we RV.
Thirdly – the Kurds, according to the constitution, can force the budget to open at .86-1.13 – that’s why they’ve been fighting on the old rate with the HCL….that’s undisputable.
Now, Parliament as early as 9 days ago…okay, let’s lift the 000’s and start declining against the dollar….the central banks wanted to do that and we just have to be patient to allow Maliki and these guys to get into the national meeting…..
I want everyone to understand the RV ‘s coming and we’re not going to wait a long time – these people are out of time. When you have people looking them in the face who are involved in the process saying…this thing is done…so those are the ways that it should occur, and it could happen anytime they want –
IT’S IRAQ. It’s not going to go awry on us and we’re going to get our RV.
WD: Gave thanks to those who contributed to the chat room as a great experience…and it’ll be a short experience.
Q: You said before there’s no way Iraq cannot do the Arab Summit unless they have the National Conference.
A: Yes, the Arabs are powerful and they do not want to come to Baghdad and the local politicians are still fighting and haven’t taken care of the people and security – and if they don’t do this real soon, they can kiss them goodbye.
Q: It seems with all the planning, it would be a disaster.
A: No, it’s not up in the air and they would never be offered to host the AS again and they’d be against participating with the Arab nations – and they’re not going to do that. I don’t have any news who are watching this process that that’s going to happen. They’re making a bunch a people fret – the time lines –I’m comfortable with that.
Q: Is it possible they could do this under cover and never acknowledge they did it?
A: Not possible or probably - -You have Allawi, Barzani, and Talabani who said they won’t come out unless they do that – and they said the WILL do that…you have the 3 most powerful and they’re not going to put egg on their face.
They do a lot of things undercover, they’ve been having a lot of meetings…people calling me names and then last night they came out with an article that they’ve had 6 prepartory meetings…now that they’re finished, they’re supposed to go in to the Conference and actually said they could roll from the prep meetings to the national conference.
They haven’t given any proof, but that’s the way they operate. Last year, we see Parliament doing a lot of stuff, and didn’t see anything and they spit out 266 laws in one day – they’ve been real secretive about it, that’s the way Maliki wants it,
Talabani, and Najif wants them to be more upfront and change their behavior so I think we’re going to see the national conference in the next few days.
A: The Kurds said the minimal of the budget is calculated and given to the IMF –is 86cents and we know they need more to flow and move on. That’s my only concern and I want to see what their number is…that’s my only concern is the rate we’re willing to come out.
I said $4.20 but they may come out at .86 cents…who knows? It’s Iraq and have to see what they give us. We win any way – wait 4-5 days for Maliki to RV and we’re gone.
Q: China playing a greater roll lately – seem to be in the know about this at this time and tied into that with trying to dump the US as the petro dollar and our investment.
A: I’d like to tell people everything I know about China, but I can’t. China is oppressing the world economy by keeping their currency under value…they’re taking people’s debts because that’s the engine going…China owns so many dollars and they’ve perpetrated fraud all the time…China –
I know from the inside as a fact – they’re the reason we didn’t get our RV from Vietnam because they were getting dollar….the IMF came down on them like a ton of bricks and shut them down
…the US and Great Brits held their hand…after this RV’s I’ll tell alot of people about China…they’re a bad player and doesn’t even try to participate like Japan used to and they don’t mind starving their own people and treat the world as less than them.
It’s very historical company and they cut off their own relatives because they had kids in other parts…I don’t have much good to speak of with China. The World Bank and IMF have kept them in place…other than getting oil contracts, they don’t get anything, they get paid through USD and not taking over people’s currency.
China wanted dinar and the US said you’re not getting both..you can’t have dinar or you’ll destroy that country before it even came about. They’re not good people and do very bad things and we’ve been sheltered through the US, World Bank and China knows we’ll break them.
China knows that if we mess with them, we’ll beat the…on them. They do have some economic steam right now, but not as powerful as us. …not now or in the near future.
Q; I was in Africa and they showed us a building just paid for in Ethiopia for the African Union to met…it would scare Americans to know how large China’s in position for the next wave in Africa for the future.
A: What you’ve said is good, but Africans is going to realize that China needs to pump the brakes. They like to take advantage of people when they’re hurting…over the last 2 years there’s a lot of people licking their chops…the world will turn to Africa in the next 12-25 years and will be pumping more and the natural resources will change.
Q: I appreciate your consistency….are you sure about opening up the budget?
A: They can open up any budget except 2011 – to restructure their currency – that’s where our money’s at. I promise you, telling you this for years that this is just fact. IMF rejected the budget at the beginning of 2011 and the US had to intervene and once they proved to the IMF that they could do both those things….they’re approved.
The US approved it and that’s where we’re at – open up 2011 and we RV. They can even open 2012 but I don’t know how they can do that….people also will tell you who knows how Iraq was set up, 2011 has our money.
Q: Do they have to open 2011 first?
A: No, they can do whatever they want p—haven’t opened 07,8,9,10,11, or 12. Maliki swiped the money from 2011 and then they advanced 100 million to pay for the summit…that’s our money. They can open up any budget and it won’t affect us – no rv, nothing.
Q: I thought when they open a budget they start paying benefits and projects.
A: When you open a budget that’s dormant, that budget has lines that are allocating projects, but the 2011 has a line in it that’s dedicated to RESTRUCTGURE IRAQ’S CURRENCY and they proved that to the IMF otherwise they wouldn’t approve it.
The 2012 doesn’t provoke them - -they’re independent to each other. They use the front word…they said they ADVANCED some money from the 2011 budget and projected it to the 2012 budget to pay for the Arab Summit…that’sunny math to me. The RV of the currency is going to provoke them to open the budget.
Q: What about paying for projects…if it doesn’t RV they either pay in dinar or USD. If you’re a contractor who’s project is approved and you hire 200 people, if paid in USD, the only way he can pay the workers are in USD and that will devalue their currency. So they’re limited as to what they can pay for.
A: Absolutely – they would stop the function with the use of the dinar.
Q: The one-line item in 2012 was the retirement benefits for $200,000 dinar per month…they haven’t received them.
A: No, and haven’t received them for the last umpteen years.
Q: If you accrued this number of $200,000 Iraqi dinars for one year…that’s 15 months x 200,000 = 3 million Iraqi dinars, pre-RV and then 2 months from now they could all be sitting on an equivalent of $3 million dollars.
A: Yes, they absolutely will…and they’ll have foreign labor building bridges, housework, just like Saudi Arabia. Maliki giving them on advances of $1500 one time and $3200 another…and all those dinars are hyper-inflated at the 1170 rate so when they start receiving these cards and they’ve got the oil revenues in 2009 it was approved GW Bush had it approved that the government would share our revenues with the citizens at a percentile also…
.Now, these people will get it for 4 years at their percental and when it RV’s, heck yeah, they’re going to be millionaires…even those who are underage because of the oil revenues.
Q: Nothing can really move because of the RV.
A: Nothing…it’s still water, just sitting there doing nothing. Just bad water…and that’s the point that eh politicians are starting to crank out now…they need to build roads, public santitations, building schools, hospitals, getting electricity, etc.
I’ve been telling people when the dinar RV’s, the Iraq are going to be so wealthy – they already are, they just don’t have it in their possession.
The next call, God forbid we have it, call me back with 20% of 27 trillion and I’m going to tell you what our RV is.
The only thing we refused to print is coins…it’s too expensive…we paid for the 3 languages to be printed by US and the USA.
Q: When are the Kurds going to be paid from Baghdad…how long are the members going to allow the Parliament to run around in cars, Exxon hasn’t been paid, the Pope is coming to Baghdad, and they can’t even get gasoline on the streets for their people, how long can the CBI say they’re going to lift the 000’s, reduce the inflation, price inflation, without actually doing something.
They’ve been promising the citizens a share of the oil revenue for years…how long are they going to sleep in tents or cardboard boxes.
A: This is what we know and we both know the answer…Shortly, it’s all going to be over reason being is they’re out of time…we have a national meeting on the way and the an Arab Summit.
This is the cutoff. The Iraqi’s have 13 – 17 days before the Arabs start saying we’re not coming … you failed to take care of the security and currency and you don’t have anybody occupying your country.
Maliki will want to run for another term (the US doesn’t want) – if he has to RV the currency coming out of these meetings, he’s going to do it. The IMF is saying – you did well, fork the dinar out….they’re going to bust their chops…they said we’ll talk to you in a year.
Q: The citizens watching the news and TV..they have not demonstrated or set their country on fire. They’re losing millions of dollars due to the lack of leadership every day.
A: Talabani pointed that out….
Q: Talabani said you haven’t played ball…when the citizens watch them on TV, they’re tired and seeing articles about how tired they are. You spoke about Maliki – the article about M. prepares and the agreement took place and agreed on Erbil and would be the first terms of the working congress…and the others will be implemented.
A: I was excited about that and they reiterated about Erbil being out….A lot of people think they know a lot about what they don’t know but I know of 5-8 currencies that are going to change and China’s going to get busted in the mouth on this RV which will loosen the grip on a bunch of Asian countries.
Q: The IQD RV will show the US is capable of.
A: Yes, other governments are going to be doing this – I’ve been doing currencies for 5 years…China’s choking a bunch of people and we’re going to be a lot richer. Come to our Skype chatroom at “wangdangism” – we’re going to make some money with the rest of these currencies I’ve been talking about.
Q: We’re like in a penny stock….we own a currency which is better than that. I don’t want to hear this garbage that the guru’s predict. I feel sorry for the people who believe it because they’re betting the house. – HCL – Erbil
A: 86 cents
Q: USMC – Wold Bank
Q: What does that mean?
Q: You’ve got it. Explain, government’s in office, Maliki’s still the prime minister?
A: yes, for about a year, but he’ll have Allawi with him – the president and leader of the NCSP _National Council for Stategic Planning. That’s from the US coming trhough Erbil…everyone agreed to it and that’s why Maliki shot it down because he didn’t want to share power.
Security , internal branch, and internal is strategic under Allawi’s tent, and Maliki will have a glorified ranking without power and leave his neighbors alone…just focus on Iraq. Allawi cares, he’s a patriot, Saddam Hussein tried to kill him…he’s a brain surgeon and has compassion for his people to be fed and educated.
They were the first society and we need to be broad in our thought…they were first to read and write thousands of years ago with texts that were written and now they’re living like peasants. That’s crazy.
Q: It’s sad to see how they’re living.
A: It’s going to change and the US 47,000 souls will be appreciated and rewarded by their country.
The whole purpose is to make their currency international so it can flow. It would bust all the economic laws…and it’s in the constitution. It was part of a letter a few months ago – in order to be legal it has to be acceptable to international markets –
I think that’s the way it was said. (Cha-ching) – They want the 000’s off the street and they want them back. When 86 cents hits they’ll have at least 20, and when it RV, they can have the rest back.
Q: Some countries have no dinar…Some of our Canadians have it – we’re mere pitence to those people with 3 million US investors.
If they don’t hear within the next few days that the meetings have started or give us information, that Prince from Saudi Arabia is going to get on that phone and say ‘we’re not coming’…just like last y ear.
That dude is powerful and when he picks up the phone, he does it with authority and Iraq doesn’t want that call to come…I’m just not giving people that much time. I have people watching and they’ve been good with it…In a few days we have to hear shortly or the Arabs aren’t coming.
A: I mentioned last times a lot of stuff is for Iraq…they did an adjustment for the Iraqi’s salary and from what I’m seeing, please correct me, that 86 cents - $1.17 I believe is for their people because that’s how they’re adjusting their incoming salaries so they’re not going to get $4.11 they’ll get the 86 cents and tripled benefits.
In 2008, Oct, maybe as early as 2009 is the article you’re talking about…I remember it distinctively…these people are making a miniscual amount…they formatted that off the Hydrocarbon law…we already a have a minimal in our system to pay things to pay for only government workers…
It wasn’t for politicians or elected officials, you’re right, but the inside of the budget is 86-1.13 but the letter you’re talking about is for government employees. I don’t know if it was approved or what they did with that, but I do remember that discussion.
Q: The question and opinions about having the national conference and RV before the Arab Summit….they don’t have ground sovereignty until they’re free completely – who’s going to protect them if they don’t have full sovereignty….some are saying it may happen during the summit, but what message is that with their people shackled…they’re going to be flying jets and a parade with Iraqis wearing nice calls.
A: They do have full sovereignty….so saying that they don’t is garbage. For the simple fact that if the US withdrew their forces, we still have 7,000 in the southern parts and another facility I know to be true.
We don’t’ protect Iraq – they have their own army and is much more trained than the central government of Ira…they’re being trained for the central government forces to train like them. They wouldn’t be sovereign if they didn’t own their own land…wipe that out of your mind. Our president gave their sovereignty back in every respect.
Q: Some cover it up but when they make their announcement…like Ch. 7 is the mountain to climb holding their flag and it’s the stick in the flag saying we’ve done it, and we’re ready to go, now look at us…when they say come on down, that’s when everything unlocks. I know they have their political leaders, but until their shackled until there’s an announcement and they’re not really sovereign country yet.
A: Okay, but you have a very good point, not disputed, and it’s not wrong, but in every aspect of the word they’re sovereign. He told us after the government is fully formed, but right now there’s no other nation in the world that could step on their soil and not get busted without getting backed by the UN. The US isn’t going to sit back and watch anybody make claims on their property. No one can take advantage of it.
Q: The RV sets them free…they have to revalue so they can announce their government is formed with the rate of the oil contract.
A: With the RV, Iraq will be able to pay and sustain themselves and their own people.
Q: When it does RV can it RV with different rates within the country?
A: No, when Shabibi tells the IMF, okay, this is what it’s coming out…let’s say $4.20 to the IMF, they will give it to the World Bank at $4.20 – they will release it to every stock house and they’ll take this and make sure the information is legitimate and correct and distribute it to every bank in the country…just like they do with every currency.
Then, announce it to the stock exchange and this is what it’s trading it. Some banks will try to charge you a fee – it’s $4.20 – but we want to do $4.14 – not NO, but HECK NO…I want my $4.20 – or I’ll take my money somewhere else…And I’ve done this twice already. There’s going to be a 1% tax you’ll have to pay. You have to be strong with that bank and have a relationship with them.
Q: I’ve been surfing through certain things and happy I found you and your team.
A: We’re happy you’re with us, and God’s been blessing us…we don’t have much time…if you don’t have integrity to study on the things you want to know about, you’re going to pull your hair out. Find people you trust and you start listening and research what they tell you and see if there’s any validity to it.
Q: When I first got on all these guru’s have been telling us nonsense every day about it RV’d today , then tomorrow, and when I came across you I was amazed of the information you shared and your honesty and it’s amazing to see how it’s unfolding based on what you’ve been telling people for a long time. I’m so glad we’re coming to the conclusion.
A: Through the grace of God, when I latch on to something I try to read everything…and research day after day. When you work hard to understand real things it’s hard to expel garbage when you learn things.
Q: We’re going to hear about Erbil tomorrow or before Wednesday and we’re going to have an RV.
RIVERGIRL: 72 HOUR SLATE – Just out 2 hours ago (Sat – 3-17) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
UT DID U SEE THIS? “Iraqiya will withdraw its ministers if the government does not hold the National Meeting within 72 hours and implement in full the Erbil Agreement, as well as abolish the Justice and Accountability Law and enforce the General Amnesty Law.” http://ninanews.com/English/News_Details.asp?ar95_VQ=FKHKLK
WD: Pay attention…when Allawi says….My …minister is: That means we’re through. If Allawi said I have 3 days to give my ministers, he’s not going to take that long, he promised us this in 2010 that he’d have his people seated in 3 days. When we see ERBIL, It’s done for us….if they say they’ll do a particularl thing, GAME OVER!
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Wangdang gave closing prayer.