Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 9-28-15
Wealthwatch Late Night Butifldrm Chat 9-28-15 Part 1 of 2
Oneness: in other news ... Who Deserves the Nobel Peace Prize? Posted: 09/28/2015 1:12 pm EDT Updated: 09/28/2015 1:59 pm EDT Oneness: www.huffingtonpost.com/mi...
Oneness: Talk is rife about bestowing the Nobel Peace Prize on those who concluded the Iran nuclear deal.. Attention, therefore, is focused on Secretary Kerry and Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif. Their sharing of the prize could be seen as a neat way to honor the achievement without judging who exactly is most responsible for it.
There is precedent -- let us recall how Oslo decided to pair Anwar Sadat with Menachem Begin in 1978, and then Yasser Arafat, Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres in 1994.
Now, in a sense, we are facing a similar situation. Here is why. There are a number of premises that underlie the judgment that the nuclear agreement is a monumental accomplishment in the cause of peace. Yet, they in fact are all of dubious validity. Oneness: :ermm:
Oneness: in other news
Oneness: Taliban overrun Afghan city of Kunduz ... BBC News - 4 hours ago ... www.bbc.com/news/world-as... http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34377565
Oneness: The Taliban have overrun the northern Afghan city of Kunduz, taking control of most areas and freeing hundreds of prisoners from its jail. Hundreds of militants stormed the city before dawn, quickly seizing key buildings and advancing on the airport. The government says it has sent reinforcements to Kunduz and fighting is ongoing.
Oneness: This attack is one of the most serious security breaches since the start of the Taliban insurgency 14 years ago. But the Taliban's main challenge will now be to hold the city. Kunduz has a huge strategic significance as it is considered a gateway to Afghanistan's northern provinces and shares a border with Tajikistan, Afghanistan's Central Asian neighbour.
The Taliban already control huge chunks of the province's rural areas, where the majority of the population live. The insurgents have intensified their fighting in the province over the past two years.
They are the dominant militant group in the province, with an estimated 2,000 fighters.
But there are also reportedly hundreds of foreign fighters associated with al-Qaeda, so-called Islamic State and the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan (IMU).
The Afghan security forces are stretched thin as they deal with multiple attacks all over the country. Bad governance in Kunduz is also a key problem. Incompetence and intimidation by some local officials have alienated many in the province.
Oneness: ‹@Lauren305› ... personally i would vote for the baghdad girl ... Noof Assi.
Oneness: The Baghdad City of Peace Carnival started four years ago, with a young woman named Noof Assi. "We started talking to people about a celebration for peace day in Baghdad," Assi says.
She's referring to International Peace Day, which is September 21 — and which hadn't been celebrated in the war-beleaguered Iraqi capital. "Everybody was taking it as a joke and never taking us seriously," she says, "because, like, in Baghdad? Celebrating peace?"
Butifldrm: Good evening everyone!
Butifldrm: I thought I'd stop in and say hello
Butifldrm: I see you were talking about the Taliban
Oneness: it appears same old same old here ... everybody just waiting at the waiting wall
Butifldrm: I read today that ISIS is now attacking the Taliban
Oneness: yes, heard about afghan fighting on npr today
Oneness: well i do not know about isis talban conflict
Butifldrm: Lots of things happening today Geo politically
Butifldrm: i wish I were a fly on the wall during the Obama and Putin meeting
Oneness: that is real intense
Oneness: black standard flying in Afghanistan
Butifldrm: Oneness I read that this morning
Butifldrm: the whole Middle East is on fire and it appears the Whole World is looking at the US -- Saudi Arabia has pulled 78B out of Western markets
Oneness: even mexico selling dollars
Butifldrm: Saudi is trying to save their reserves
Butifldrm: ‹@Oneness› now that's interesting
Butifldrm: I did not know that
Oneness: mexico trying to keep peso afloat
Butifldrm: I'm sure...alll the emering economies are suffering from low oil prices and the high dollar
BOBBY: Butifldrm....... got a question when you got time
Butifldrm: Ok Bobby Shoot
Oneness: ‹@BOBBY› just like everybody else, watching the pope, waiting at the waiting wall, all in all doing pretty good, thanks for asking, how about you bobby ?
Donnie: wow - short term top circled - and 2 solid red bars down - looks like we're going to test those previous lows.
Butifldrm: ‹@Donnie› I believe you are correct
BOBBY: Butifldrm..... what kind/type of influence do you think Russia will be in the near future?
BOBBY: Oneness..... all good on my end
Butifldrm: IMO opinion. A great influence. Putin is a strong and cunning leader
Butifldrm: We are going to witness a shift geopolitically
Butifldrm: Donnie IMO it's going to be a slow and arduous descent
BOBBY: that would take care of the second question lol. .... thanks
Butifldrm: ‹@BOBBY› have you looked at this thread. wealthwatch.world/showthr...
BOBBY: Butifldrm....... yes... i keep current on the posts....... one of the great things on this site
Butifldrm: It's great to be able to look at both sides then make you decision
BOBBY: Butifldrm..... Chattels posted an interesting post about lines being re drawn ........
Butifldrm: Wow I did not see that
Butifldrm: Lines meaning influence or countries
BOBBY: very good read/ perspective on the whole mid east
Butifldrm: I see a shift coming for sure
ladyfox: hello guys what new lines in the mid east
BOBBY: Butifldrm...... in my opinion. .... influences and countries go hand and hand
Butifldrm: Today I read a Reuters article where Saudi was drawing out 78B from Eastern Markets
Butifldrm: Sorry it was Bloomberg Butifldrm: www.bloomberg.com/news/ar...
Butifldrm: All oil producing countries trading oil in the Dollar are in trouble right now
Butifldrm: This here in lies the reason the Fed cannot increase interest rates
Butifldrm: Look at Iraq. They are trying to sell sovereign bonds and with a B- rating are having a huge problem
Butifldrm: The Bonds are to pay over 10% which is huge for a zero percent interest rate global economy. Yet they are having problems
Butifldrm: Selling these bonds
Butifldrm: Saudi has a Sovereign wealth fund that could last them for years but they too are selling Bonds to protect their reserves Butifldrm: www.economist.com/news/fi...
Oneness: ‹@BOBBY› can you copy /paste Chattels post about lines being re drawn ... here in chat ? ... thanks
Butifldrm: So Iraq is competing on the global market to sell their bonds at a B~ rating
Butifldrm: Yes I woul love to read that‹@Oneness›
Butifldrm: Iraq Bond Sales english.alarabiya.net/en/...
chattels: " ..............when this conflict with ISIS is over one day, new borders will be drawn on the map." rudaw.net/english/intervi...
chattels: " It is important that Iraq becomes an inclusive country. If it does not become so, then I think that the division of Iraq at some point might become a reality. "
chattels: " It is true that Turkey and the KRG have a relatively good relationship. But it is only until the time, I fear, that the KRG declares independence. "
chattels: Barzani has said on several occasions that changes caused by DAESH make it impossible to return to the status quo.
Butifldrm: That is a great article you brought to chat
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› To which article are you referring ?
Butifldrm: the separatist article from Rudaw
chattels: Many of the internally displaced persons will not return home, IMO
chattels: and there are a total of about 2.5 million
chattels: approaching 10 % of the Iraqi population
Butifldrm: Erdogan, IMO is desperate from his loss of Power since pro kurdish majority has taken over the government
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› He is a very dangerous man, IMO
Butifldrm: ‹@chattels› I know it is sooo sad
Butifldrm: So many refugees from iraq and syria
Butifldrm: ‹@chattels› yes he is
Butifldrm: He IMO is ten times worse than Assad
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› the human and economic costs are and will continue to be staggering
Butifldrm: ‹@chattels› I know and not just within the middle East, but in Europe too
chattels: David Romano, a columnist with Rudaw and Professor at a U.S. University, and I have developed some rapore - he travels extensively in Turkey and Kurdistan
Butifldrm: ‹@chattels› and the real sadness is that the global economy is in such a bad state there is no way to take care of the refugees/migrants
chattels: He often writes about the Erdogan government and the complexities of the Turkish - Kurdish relations chattels: See rudaw.net/english/authors...
chattels: On August 17th, Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu announced that efforts to form a coalition government had failed and he was returning the mandate to do so to President Erdogan.
This came as a surprise to just about no one, since President Erdogan clearly wants to redo the June 7th elections that denied him the majority needed to create an executive presidency.
The deadline to form a government is August 23rd, after which Mr. Erdogan can call for new elections in November. chattels: rudaw.net/english/opinion...
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