Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 8-9-15
Wealthwatch Late Night Chat 8-9-15
JethroTexasTea: ‹@Butifldrm› seems like the dawa party is on board with reforms tho which is amazing
JethroTexasTea: Maliki's coalition: Abadi correct decisions and bold, the Parliament approved Sun Aug 09 2015 15:11 | (Voice of Iraq) - Baghdad I returned MP for the coalition of state law Ibtisam Hilali, on Sunday, the decisions of the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi reform "bold and correct", and called for Parliament to vote on as soon as they meet the demands of the people and the reference, while the demands of the demonstrators described as "fair".
Ibtisam Hilali said in an interview to the (long-Presse), "The Last Prime Minister decisions, including the abolition of the posts of Vice Presidency of the Republic and the Minister, bold and very correct, they came in response to the Iraqi street and reference wise it has a mandate from the reference and has deprived the people of the most basic elements of life claims" .
She Hilali, that "the street and reference today a major impact in making these decisions, the fact that the protesters claims were fair after the deterioration of service, health and security and economic conditions, and should have people say his word he brought the Prime Minister and the House of Representatives to their sites."
And it demanded Hilali, the House of Representatives "to be a level of responsibility and approves those decisions as soon as possible to meet the requirements of the Iraqi people," asserting that "the House of Representatives today in front of the legitimacy of the responsibility as well."
It was the voice of the Iraqi Council of Ministers, on Sunday, on the decisions taken by the prime minister Haider al-Abadi to reform government institutions.
The Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi taken, Sunday, (August 9, 2015), six reformist decisions which cancel the posts of Vice President and the Prime Minister "immediately", and reduce the comprehensive and immediate in the preparation of protections for all state officials Dmenhm three presidencies, ministers, MPs and special grades and managers two years, governors and members of the provincial councils and their grades, in the
Butifldrm: I head this session was going to be a public broadcast
JethroTexasTea: I was just about to say that lol : for the citizens to watch
Butifldrm: ‹@JethroTexasTea› I do know
JethroTexasTea: Vice coalition of state law calls for al-Jubouri broadcast vote on the reform package session 8/11/2015 Vice coalition of state law calls for al-Jubouri broadcast vote on the reform package session Twilight News / MP for the coalition of state law Haider Star Sire House Speaker Salim al-broadcast vote on the Cabinet decisions session through the media.
Mawla said in a statement to the media library that "the Prime Minister today took a courageous and decisive decisions and responded to the religious authority and the demands of the demonstrators in Baghdad and the provinces to cancel a major positions of the Republic and the Vice-Minister and feminine ministries and detect corrupt people in the departments and institutions of the state."
Mawla and between that "We support the decisions that Takzha Abadi and the Council of Ministers at today's meeting," stressing that "the coalition will stand with Abadi in the adoption of decisions at a hearing next Tuesday."
Mawla added that "the presidency of the parliament today claim by making the vote on the Cabinet decisions in public session and display the names of voters and abstainers decisions on the media to inform people of the truth and refuse to support reform in the government." translate.google.com/tran...LINK
JethroTexasTea: Vice coalition of state law calls for al-Jubouri broadcast vote
Butifldrm: I have a feeling tomorrow will be a good day
JethroTexasTea: likewise...next several weeks should be quite an avalanche
Abraham: Probably Interpol is already their to collect Malaki
Butifldrm: The corruption along with ISIS has pretty much stopped the economic forward movement
JethroTexasTea: ‹@Abraham› wow...right at the airport detained too
JethroTexasTea: rumor wise anyways
Butifldrm: I do believe one thing that Scizn revealed to me, that the tourism aspect of Iraq had a huge impact on Iraq
EdoBini: l think the Governor of the CBI could be among those sack too. We shall see when all the Names comes out.
OOTW: seriously we could chat on this for days way too much news
Dianne777: remember when we all used to get excited about the borders being closed bahahahah?
Butifldrm: ‹@Dianne777› OMG we have come a long way
Dianne777: we sure have now i just say, so what, the camel needed to take a nap lol
Dianne777: they move as slow as the peoples over there lol
Butifldrm: I not only feel that someday the Dinar will be more valuable than the dollar, but I have gotten a great education out of this investment
Butifldrm: I just read, not only news from Iraq , but geopolitical news
Butifldrm: ‹@Fit2beFit› I don't know, but to keep my sanity I only read and analyse the news
Abraham: I can't believe we have individuals that are so unkind to people
Butifldrm: I have become such an advocate for the people of Iraq
BOBBY: Abraham..... i believe there is no end to the unkindness to one another
Abraham: ‹@BOBBY› it's truly very sad
Abraham: My heart really hurts for the people in Iraq
Fit2beFit: A writer for the NY TIMES almost did a stoty about the Iraq Dinar about it is the most talked about scam investment in history and why would that be
Fit2beFit: They pulled it he said
Abraham: Especially the children
BOBBY: Abraham. ....... hope for a better future for them
Butifldrm: Truly here I just stay to the news
Butifldrm: it's hard to live out of reality
Dianne777: ‹@Butifldrm› ‹@Butifldrm› ‹@Butifldrm› how many do you think is invested in the US?
Butifldrm: I study and think that the true reality of our economic world is further beyond Iraq
Butifldrm: ‹@Dianne777› oh have have now idea probaly thousands
Fit2beFit: Maliki has been a major thorn
OOTW: ‹@Butifldrm› so true
Butifldrm: ‹@Fit2beFit› Oh he is toast
Butifldrm: I think about this
Fit2beFit: I hope so with no butter or jelly ontop
BOBBY: Fit2beFit..... my opinion. .... will be until dead
Fit2beFit: I still, imo, think he will escape out of country
Butifldrm: When Maliki and the Judiciary placed arrest warrants for Shabibi, they knew he was out of the country
Fit2beFit: money and power goes along way in that 3rd world
BOBBY: yes it will
Dianne777: Shabbs ever did return until recently did he?
Butifldrm: Now we have an article stating that Maliki was not lallowed to leave the country
Fit2beFit: And i also belive he has money where they cant find it or touch it
Butifldrm: ‹@Dianne777› yes only to clear his name
BOBBY: he is not stupid
Dianne777: ‹@Butifldrm› is he still there?
Butifldrm: ‹@Fit2beFit› ok OOTW and scizn and I were talking about this today
Fit2beFit: But then again, look where they found Saddam
Butifldrm: when you look at all of the auctions and the capital flight
Butifldrm: the majority of the auctions are electronic
Dianne777: ‹@Fit2beFit› M might not be able to get to the money though
Fit2beFit: its a mess for sure
BOBBY: time will tell, that is the one sure thing
Butifldrm: that means there is a paper/electronic trail to the money fo the corrupt
MzDiva: So is Malaxtive in or out
Butifldrm: notice very little of the auction is in cash
Fit2beFit: BUT all this going on over is not to stay a poor country with no growth or worth
EdoBini: He is an amazing liar. His end will be bad
Butifldrm: Once the corrupt are convicted the government should be able to seize these accounts
Fit2beFit: AND we read once a week about the oil pumped everyday and the millions and millions of it
Butifldrm: ‹@Dianne777› yes as far as we know he is still in Iraq
Butifldrm: ‹@Fit2beFit› as the news reads
Fit2beFit: ‹@Butifldrm› Its not just the news, the oil industry blogs, emails and groups talk it all the time and have for years
Butifldrm: 23T Dinar in oil proceeds since the first of the year and 21T spent on the government so now you see why they have to restructure
BOBBY: Its early morning over there, news should be forthcoming in a few hours
Butifldrm: they have Daash and the the people
Butifldrm: WE should be watching for Parliament tomorrow
Fit2beFit: I come from an oil family, and Iraq is a sitting gold mind in oil
Fit2beFit: The last of the untapped world
Butifldrm: ‹@Fit2beFit› I know but under $70 dollars a barrel and these conditons ....not so much
Fit2beFit: Thats what the market, news and industry put out there, behind all that in the power oil groups, its way more then that
Butifldrm: Even Saudi Arabia is going ito their reserves and they have a sovereign wealth fund
Butifldrm: because of the oil prices
EdoBini: Time is 10.52 pm est. Do you know where the children are ? GN friends. See you again tomorrow , God willing.
Fit2beFit: Future Oil growth and Proof is where the powers sit
Butifldrm: here's the deal
Butifldrm: here the deal
Fit2beFit: If you knew you could tap into the future of a ton of oil for many, MANY years to come, and at a low price, WOULDN'T YOU JUMP ON IT
AuntieMame: Iraq's Abadi proposes clear-out of top government posts
AuntieMame: By Ahmed Rasheed Related Stories Iraq premier offers plan to trim criticized government Associated Press Iraq PM calls for sweeping reforms in response to protests AFP Iraq PM rolls out sweeping reforms after protests AFP Iraqi cabinet approves PM Abadi's reform package: spokesman Reuters Iraq's Prime Minister Unveils Plan To Trim Criticized Government Huffington Post BAGHDAD (Reuters) –
Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi won the support of his cabinet on Sunday to eliminate a layer of senior government positions, part of a push to reduce corruption and save money in the face of mounting unrest. After weeks of protests demanding better government and a call by leading Shi'ite Muslim cleric Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani for tougher action, Abadi proposed cancelling Iraq's multiple vice president and deputy prime minister positions, currently shared out along sectarian lines.
Butifldrm: ‹@AuntieMame› ‹@AuntieMame› I'm so glad this news made it main stream
Fit2beFit: Iraq is a sitting time bomb of profit
AuntieMame: on reuters
Butifldrm: ‹@Fit2beFit› the countries who have lived the best years maybe not living the best years shortly and the countries who have been suppressed may be blessed
Fit2beFit: Iraq is just the type of country with such worth, that its perfect time for the greed to scoop it up before it becomes the next dubai, and with oil low and corruption, the greed will snatch it all up and have already started with building there.
Butifldrm: wealthwatch.world/forumdi... http://wealthwatch.world/forumdisplay.php?fid=14
Fit2beFit: Its sometimes make you think the supper money powers started ISIS to scare all out so they could scoop it up while others thought it would never amount to anything
Fit2beFit: I wouldnt put it past the Roths and Bendons
AuntieMame: ‹@Butifldrm› according to the end of this artical it gives me the impression Abaidi is still PM news.yahoo.com/iraqi-pm-b...
Butifldrm: ‹@AuntieMame› He is
Abraham: Reform needs to start in the heart of the leaders
Fit2beFit: "With the green light from (Sistani), Abadi is now stronger than ever and will push ahead with radical changes without any hesitation," said parliamentary legal panel chief Mahmoud al-Hassan.
AuntieMame: bc too www.abc.net.au/news/2015-...
OOTW: AUNTIEMAME ARE YOU IN AU? - AH THIS SHEDS SOME MORE LIGHT - TY
OOTW: Iraqi prime minister proposes abolishing vice president, deputy prime minister positions as part of sweeping reforms Posted about 7 hours ago Iraq's prime minister Haider al-Abadi PHOTO: Iraq's prime minister Haider al-Abadi is proposing sweeping reforms to reduce corruption. (Reuters: Mahmoud Raouf Mahmoud) RELATED STORY:
Obama sends up to 450 more troops to IraqRELATED STORY: Allies back Iraq plan against IS, Baghdad seeks more help MAP: Iraq Iraqi prime minister Haider al-Abadi has proposed abolishing the positions of vice president and deputy prime minister as part of an ambitious reform drive sparked by swelling popular anger over corruption and poor governance.
The proposed reforms followed weeks of demonstrations and a call for tougher reform measures from top Shiite cleric grand ayatollah Ali al-Sistani, who is revered by millions of Iraqis.
Amid a major heatwave that has seen temperatures top 50 degrees Celsius, protesters have railed against the poor quality of services, especially power outages that leave Iraqis with only a few hours of government-supplied electricity per day.
But even with popular pressure and Mr Sistani's backing, the entrenched nature of corruption in Iraq and the fact that parties across the political spectrum benefit from it will make any efforts to change the system extremely difficult. One of the most drastic proposals outlined in an online statement by Mr Abadi was the call for the elimination of the posts of vice president and deputy prime minister "immediately".
I renew my support for the reforms that are needed. Former prime minister Nouri al-Maliki The cabinet approved the reform plan on Sunday, Mr Abadi's office said, but changes such as abolishing the posts would apparently require the constitution to be amended, which would necessitate parliamentary action.
The three vice presidential posts, which come with more privileges than responsibilities, are held by former top officials — Mr Abadi's predecessor and main rival Nouri al-Maliki, ex-parliament speaker Osama
OOTW: ex-parliament speaker Osama al-Nujaifi and former premier Iyad Allawi. Maliki backs prime minister's plan Mr Maliki and Mr Nujaifi said on Sunday that they supported the reform drive, indicating that the proposed changes may have been made as part of a deal they endorsed. "
I renew my support for the reforms that are needed," Mr Maliki said, while Mr Nujaifi announced his "support for and welcome of the decisions". Mr Abadi called for a major overhaul of the way senior officials are selected, saying that all "party and sectarian quotas" should be abolished, and the candidates chosen by a committee appointed by the premier.
No quotas are enshrined in the constitution, but the patronage system grants many government jobs according to sect and party affiliation rather than merit. Mr Abadi also said there should be a "comprehensive and immediate reduction" in the number of guards for officials.
This has long been a problem, with some officials having massive personal protection units, and others hiring fewer than the allotted number and pocketing the rest of the allowance.
Mr Abadi called for an end to "special provisions" for senior officials, both current and retired. He did not specify, but large salaries, government-provided vehicles and generous retirement benefits have all long been bones of contention between the authorities and average Iraqis.
Old and current corruption cases should also be reopened under the supervision of a high commission for fighting corruption, Mr Abadi said. Mr Sistani called on Friday for Mr Abadi to take "drastic measures" against corruption, saying that the "minor steps" he had announced were not enough.
One of those whose position is being axed is Bahaa al-Araji, the much-reviled deputy prime minister in charge of energy. Chief prosecutor Abdel Sattar Birakdar's office announced on Sunday that the anti-corruption court was ordered to investigate allegations against him. The latest major protest against corruption and poor governance was on Friday, with thousands in Bagh