Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 9-6-15
Wealthwatch Late Night News / Links & Chat 9-6-15
Oneness: my bond ladies definitely gets the reasons why people like to invest in bonds
Oneness: "SO YOU'RE TYPICAL BOND BUYERS WILL HOLD THESE BONDS WHICH ARE BELIEVE IT OR NOT MORE VALUABLE THAN CURRENCY AND ADD THEM TO THEIR PORTFOLIOS AND AT THE SAME TIME ADD THEM TO THEIR BALANCE SHEET ALONG WITH OTHER BONDS THEY MAY HAVE.
MY LADIES: THEY WILL HAVE VALUE IMMEDIATELY WHEREAS THE CURRENCY DOES NOT.
MY LADIES: ALSO BOND INVESTORS HAVE A VERY PARTICULAR APPETITE AND DO NOT LOOK AT CURRENCY AS AN INVESTMENT. BONDS CAN BE SWAPPED AND TRADED AND TRADED AGAIN AND AGAIN ON THE "PAPER" MARKET."
Oneness: French Revolution .... just saying ... " resentment of the privileges "
Oneness: on the brighter side /// guess when we find out terms f the bond deals, we then can have a better understanding of expected duration of how long we may to wait to see the value of the dinar manifest
Oneness: yea , makes sense, when bonds mature it will be like added value to the currency market, ... m2 , i think the technol term would be
Oneness: man ... lol ... buy a bond ... use it as collateral for a loan in a three world country ... build a manufacturing company ... that be a sweet dream
rocknrollbus: Can anyone tell me just what the heck is going on with Shabbs?
rocknrollbus: He's coming back, no he's not, they have charges on him.......
BOBBY: rocknrollbus........ i have not seen any real evidence of him returning to his former position, just alot of opinions
BB824: It's shabbs . .no wait...bonds..no wait . ..isis...no wait dawi...no wait.. maliki . ..no wait it's October dead line...no wait......it's hilarious to see so many think what the trigger is
BB824: people is the us ha nothing to do with a 3rd world's country revile mentioned into the world market from news posted from a country on the Internet . ..lolololol
BB824: it is getting so entertaining to see people analyze a country's revolve from the internet
BOBBY: always has been
BB824: anyone who even THINK that got a real clue on what iraq is really REALLY doing behind the scenes is humor
BB824: up and down emotions of an investment
BB824: the negative pushers on isis and dashe is EVEN MORE FUNNY
chattels: good evening all
chattels: ‹@BB824› I am going to lend credence and veracity to the 1,000 + news articles as opposed to your " friend in the know on the ground " regarding DAESH, thank you
chattels: ‹@BB824› I doubt that your friend was in Ramadi, Fallujah, Baiji or Mosul
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... did you see that post on the IQD TEAM about Bismayah?
BOBBY: pretty amazing what they have planned
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› no sir - been away all day - do you have a link ?
disciple7: ‹@BOBBY› is it the video on Bismayah and the building of the city?
BOBBY: disciple7....... thats the one..... do you have a link to post?
disciple7: No but it's been around awhile
disciple7: Just go on YouTube and type in "Bismayah"
BOBBY: Chattels.... all i can find is www.bismayah.org http://www.bismayah.org/
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› I have seen the Bismayah planned housing / city before - thanks
chattels: Abadi plans to cancel the Integrity Commission
disciple7: Quit planning and do it
chattels: The newspaper said in a report today that its issue "Abadi faces challenges to implement reforms on the ground, and still unable to pass the decision to cancel the posts of Vice-President of the Republic, and that the move is facing widespread opposition, in parallel with its need for a parliamentary decision difficult."
chattels: She added that "the Prime Minister was not able to put pressure on the Judicial Council to change the boss Medhat al-Mahmoud, and that the Iraqi political forces are still committed to big defense of Al-Mahmoud and prevent his dismissal."
BOBBY: disciple7........ bout sums it up
chattels: The newspaper pointed out that "al-Abadi may issue a decision to cancel the Integrity Commission, as an institution is not doing its part in the fight against corruption, and had hinted at a meeting with the Commission finally to this option, when he emphasized that the return on the state of the stolen money is not commensurate with the amount of costs paid to the Integrity Commission ".
disciple7: ‹@BOBBY› yes sir
chattels: translate.google.com/tran... LINK
chattels: Courtesy of Bond Lady's Corner
chattels: I respectfully submit that the news confirms my several statements about Abadi's proclamation being great verbiage, but such does not constitute " DONE ".
chattels: "Abadi faces challenges to implement reforms on the ground, and still unable to pass the decision to cancel the posts of Vice-President of the Republic, and that the move is facing widespread opposition,......... "
Oneness: itall circles back to the quetion of the rule of law
chattels: " ......... he [ Abadi ] emphasized that the return on the state of the stolen money is not commensurate with the amount of costs paid to the Integrity Commission ".
chattels: sounds as though the cost / benefit analysis supports a conclusion that it costs more to recover than the amount recovered
Oneness: @chattels ... or a cover up
Oneness: from a certain perspective ... its just money
Oneness: well not even money, just usd for Gods sake
Oneness: not saying i agree with whats been going on in iraq
Oneness: just that there is that "perspective" out there
chattels: The head of the Iraqi Council of Representatives that the armed conflict will not end until the end of the political conflict and that what is happening is the result of the deteriorating security wills conflict in the region.
Vowing to approval of the National Guard law soon. Jubouri said in a speech in reforming the security sector and defense in the Iraq conference on Sunday, said the special security and defense legislation of laws, specifically those that affect the processes of liberalization has become an urgent and necessary need for
chattels: " ......... the armed conflict will not end until the end of the political conflict .......... "
BOBBY: Chattels. ..... is there any other kind over there ?
Oneness: it os fascinating watching iraq
Oneness: i wish i was better at political satire
Oneness: what was that school book ... gulliver's travels ...
Oneness: wizard of oz said to be about political issues yoo
chattels: ‹@Oneness› we are witnessing a young " teenage " democracy struggling to define itself from within and without, IMO
chattels: monetary / banking reform and acceptance by the world may have to await better times
BOBBY: Chattels. .... cant wait for this teen to hit 18 lol
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Iraq will be thirteen years old this year
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› :)
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... oh no... puberty. lol
chattels: Abadi Office: The government is determined to end the proxy appointments
chattels: The Director of the Office of the Prime Minister that “the government is determined to resolve the agents and general managers proxy file,” calling agents to “cooperation in regards to the collection of data on special grades in all ministries base.”
He pointed out that “the decisions related to the recent reforms package is not an emergency; but fall under the government program, which provided for the administrative and financial reform and anti-corruption clauses, ” pointing out that “concerned assess the performance of ministers and ministries and commissions intensify its efforts to raise the final report to the Council of Ministers before the end of this year.
chattels: " He pointed out that “the decisions related to the recent reforms package is not an emergency; ........... "
chattels: " ........ assess the performance of ministers and ministries and commissions intensify its efforts to raise the final report to the Council of Ministers before the end of this year."
chattels: Arguably many of the reforms / laws in the news are part and parcel of the agreement / promises made by the Abadi government to obtain the support of other political factions in the formation of the Abadi government. Nothing " new under the sun " one might say.
Oneness: good analysis
chattels: What we have seen of late is an austerity movement coupled with the impatience of the Iraqi populace articulated and supported by the clerics.
Oneness: coupled with a lone in the sand between sunni and shite
Oneness: with the kurds desperately seeking to be involved
chattels: Political conflicts ( Legislative gridlock ) continue along with the security issues presented by DAESH
Oneness: gridlock ... sunni shite
chattels: Arguably the Sunni / Shia religious conflict is much exaggerated by / in the world press and the real conflict is one of modern identity politics.
BOBBY: Chattels...... the million dollar question...... iyo... what needs to be done/ changed for progress?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Iraq must decide and act in a united manner ( National Guard Law, Amnesty, etc.) to liberate it's country from DAESH, higher oil prices, a workable agreement on oil / gas with the Kurds and Judicial reform top my list.
chattels: Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi, announced on Sunday, enter the Iraqi fighter jets F16 American style to the service and implementation of raids on sites for guerrilla terrorist Daash "stressing" to prepare for the process of liberalization of the city of Ramadi of terrorists who seized the 17 of last May. " Obeidi said at a joint news conference with the commander of Air Force Lt. Gen. Pilot Anwar Hama Amin, the "F16 aircraft carried out 15 sorties, and dealt with many of the goals set in the hit nests Daash terrorist."
chattels: [Baghdad-where] Daash terrorist gangs embarked Saturday on the execution  of its members for treason because they fled from the face of the security forces.
A statement by the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan (PUK) received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of "Daash gangs executed 50 of its members fleeing the fighting between Daash on the one hand and security forces on the other hand."
chattels: Maybe DAESH will kill off themselves :)
chattels: Decimation (Latin: decimatio; decem = "ten") was a form of military discipline used by senior commanders in the Roman Army to punish units or large groups guilty of capital offences, such as mutiny or desertion. The word decimation is derived from Latin meaning "removal of a tenth".
chattels: A cohort (roughly 480 soldiers) selected for punishment by decimation was divided into groups of ten; each group drew lots (sortition), and the soldier on whom the lot fell was executed by his nine comrades, often by stoning or clubbing.
The remaining soldiers were often given rations of barley instead of wheat (the latter being the standard soldier's diet) for a few days, and required to camp outside the fortified security of the marching camp. Because the punishment fell by lot, all soldiers in a group sentenced to decimation were potentially liable for execution, regardless of individual degrees of fault, rank or distinction. chattels: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dec...
chattels: The procedure was a pragmatic, yet vicious, attempt to balance the need to punish serious offences with the practicalities of dealing with a large group of offenders.
Oneness: i wonder when or even if the defender of islam will interevene
chattels: approved the government crisis cell to launch the mechanics of granting industrial and agricultural loan and housing Trillions worth 5 dinars. A statement by the Prime Minister's office received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of it, that "Based on the first package of reforms presented by the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, at the center of economic reform to stimulate the economy in the country and run the unemployed, has acknowledged the crisis cell in meeting in 24 of last August, headed by Prime Minister mechanism lending in the industrial, agricultural and housing area, which will be awarded in accordance with the instructions issued by the Central Bank and other banks.
"The Central Bank of Iraq, announced in the eighth of last August the launch of loans to 5 trillion dinars industrial banks and agricultural and real estate noting that the loans will launch banks are dollar-term bonds and could banks to buy them at a reduced price. chattels: www.alliraqnews.com/modul...
BOBBY: Chattels. ...... just wanted to thank you for all the research you do,........ it is appreciated more then you can imagine!
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› My pleasure, ............................... most of the time. :)
Oneness: he, the king, really needs to get involved
Oneness: instead of sitting in his palace watching islam destroy itself
chattels: ‹@Oneness› To whom are you referring ?
Oneness: if he not careful ... K :tongue: is likely to come knocking on his door
chattels: ‹@Oneness› Politically speaking, I do not know what role Saudi Arabia can play to assist Iraq with a resolution of it's political controversies ?
Oneness: of course that good be the plan anyway ... God's will and all
Oneness: he is the king ... his voice has weght
Oneness: why he so silent for 12 years
Oneness: all he got to say is lay down your arms or somebody going to do it for you
chattels: ‹@Oneness› Many Iraqis accuse the Suadis of attempting to destabilize the GOI
Oneness: he needs to get personally invoved
Oneness: decide once and for all
BOBBY: Oneness...... decide?
chattels: Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi said Sunday during a press conference, we are keen to resolve the battle of Mosul, with minimal losses among the ranks of the security forces and civilians
Oneness: lend full support to goi or continue to allow fanatical sunni to try and topple it
Oneness: soon he may not get that vhoice
chattels: Why Iraq needs a united Sunni authority to face extremism Defeating the Islamic State (IS) and other extremist organizations will take a many-pronged approach requiring the cooperation of the Iraqi government and unity among religious leaders. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...
chattels: Iraqi constitutional organizations, including the executive and legislative authorities, must extend their hands to Sunni religious institutions to form a politically and financially independent Sunni authority that enjoys the Sunnis’ respect and distances them from foreign influence.
The parliament and government, which are controlled by Shiite parties, must give up their fear of a strong Sunni competitor. Indeed, some Shiite parties and political figures have always been afraid of a united Sunni platform and capitalize on the political and religious Sunni division.
Former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and some of his Shiite allies were accused of marginalizing the Iraqi National List, which represented Sunnis to a large extent, thus leading to its final disintegration.
Experience has proven that the Iraqi political system will not remedy the situation unless there are strong political and religious Sunni figures who clearly recognize a democratic political process, represent the Sunni people and put an end to the Sunni leadership crisis. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...
chattels: " ................ to form a politically and financially independent Sunni authority that enjoys the Sunnis’ respect and distances them from foreign influence." [ * Saudi Arabia ?]
Oneness: yes ... he has to egt involved
Oneness: take ownership of and responsibility for the sunni way of life
chattels: ‹@Oneness› Iraqis are suspicious of any foreign involvement - they tolerate Iranian and U.S. " support " out of necessity, IMO
Oneness: the greater loyalty lies with Islam ... peace with you my brother or some such thing
Oneness: arabs killing each other is rather shameful don't you think
Oneness: so ... one or the other ... K :tongue: or the King ... will make sure it stops
Oneness: one way or another ... peaceful consultation or unimaginable horrors
Oneness: till next time ... peace be with you brothers and sisters