Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 10-01-15
Wealthwatch Member Chat 10-01-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: UNITED NATIONS, NEW YORK – Iraqi Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said Thursday he is open to Russian airstrikes on the Islamic State group (ISIS) in Iraq. In an interview with France 24 television on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York,
Abadi was asked whether Moscow had offered to intervene military in Iraq against ISIS. “Not yet.
It is a possibility,” he told the channel. “If we get the offer, we will consider it," he said.
"It is in our interest to share information with Russia,” Abadi added. “Russia has a lot of information.
The more information we gather the more I can protect the Iraqi people." Russian warplanes began airstrikes in neighboring Syria on Wednesday, with Moscow saying it had hit anti-regime opposition forces as well as ISIS, or Daesh as the group is known in Arabic.
Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov told reporters in New York that there were no plans to extend military operations to Iraq. "We were not invited or asked," Lavrov said.
"We don't come if we're not invited." Meanwhile, Russia’s Defense Ministry said it had deployed 50 warplanes and helicopters in Syria, the state-run RT television reported.
It said the fleet includes the latest Su-24M and Su-25 ground attack planes. In the interview with France 24, Abadi criticized the United States, saying it was not doing enough.
“We were expecting the international coalition, Americans, to bring massive air power to protect our forces,” he said. "We haven't received that. At the moment we are getting support, but it's not major, it's limited. chattels: rudaw.net/english/middlee...
chattels: Two weeks ago, Russia started building up its military presence in Syria to support embattled President Bashar al-Assad. Russia’s swift deployment of its military to Syria caught the West by surprise. Within weeks, Moscow deployed expeditionary forces, some special forces, tanks and fighter jets to reinforce its presence.
It was a direct challenge to the United States-led coalition that has been conducting airstrikes against the Islamic State for more than a year. Despite Washington’s call for de-escalation in the crisis, Russia conducted its first airstrikes on Wednesday giving only a one-hour notice to the US. Russia’s motives in Syria have been hotly debated by policy makers and experts who are watching Syria and the Middle East.
Some believe Russian President Vladimir Putin’s actions can be attributed to his desire for the Kremlin to become an even bigger player on the world stage. Others say American’s lack of leadership and strategic success have opened a vacuum in Syria that Russia wishes to fill.
Assad recently said his army was exhausted by the fight against ISIS and various opposition groups. Russia has steadfastly provided Damascus with military aid and has a naval base in the Syrian city of Tartus. Keeping Assad in power will preserve the base, which is vital for Russia’s influence in the region.
chattels: Read more @ rudaw.net/english/opinion...
BOBBY: Chattels..... Happy October 1st ..... lol
chattels: " Given the complexity of the civil war and the immensely factionalized forces, it is extremely unlikely Syria will return to the nation it was before 2011."
chattels: " The Kurds currently have a stronghold in the northeast of the. ISIS controls the heart of the country, while a host of opposition groups maintain their own territories."
BOBBY: Chattels..... your comment on dinar guru sticks out like a sore thumb among the nonsense... congrats!
chattels: The recent violence has in the space of a few months undone decades of attempted state building, and the various communities have no trust left for each other.
The instinctive solution would be partition into smaller states where each community could seek refuge amongst their own, but areas with mixed populations and an international community that does not want more states militate against this fix.
More decentralization, autonomy, federalism and even confederalism then come to mind as the most viable way out for not only Syria, but Iraq, Yemen and Libya as well. These would offer people a way to “forge an agreement to live together peacefully.”
chattels: These are also, of course, what Kurdish political parties have been asking for since World War I. Perhaps someone will listen now.
chattels: The Problem in Syria and Washington By DAVID ROMANO
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› has anyone ever had a good understanding of the middle east ,, not the western countries
BOBBY: where are all the ones saying Oct 1st. lol
lonegunman: ‹@BOBBY› well your are welder correct
lonegunman: ‹@BOBBY› yep i lurk and catch some chat you a welding inspt. ?
BOBBY: i forgot. .... its a fluid situation lol
lonegunman: ‹@BOBBY› fluid meaning ?? as in imbibing or work lol
BOBBY: lonegunman.... going for the Cwi to make it official
chattels: XXX : [I hope that they hurry up and get the reading of the 3 Pres. Act done!] The fact that is within 1 reading and no one really knew - IS HUGE NEWS...they have apparently been working on it without anyone knowing. Once that is read and enforced - Maliki's goose is cooked. Officially.
lonegunman: ‹@BOBBY› steamfitter here
chattels: We shall see, but I bet you " dollars to doughnuts " that the Law of the Three Presidencies has little if anything to do with Mr. Maliki.
chattels: All of you hold me to my words.
BOBBY: Chattels..... cooking of the goose...... is that in the future again lol
lonegunman: ‹@chattels› no one has a clue IMO and everyone has an opinion , i take it all with a shaker of salt...
BOBBY: Chattels.... do you remember when he said Maliki was gonna rv for the election?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› yes sir
chattels: ‹@lonegunman› understood
BOBBY: lonegunman...... very big shaker lol
chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 5h5 hours ago Some Iraqi Sunni MPs claim new alliance with Russia, Iran, Syria is "unfriendly" to provinces they represent.
chattels: Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, said Iraq is proud of his regime Democrat who "dream of a lot of peoples of the world," stressing "the legitimacy of the formation of the popular crowd."
chattels: ............stressing "the legitimacy of the formation of the popular crowd."
chattels: Abadi seems to be defending the PMU's - perhaps in the absence of a Nat'l Guard Law
chattels: Rumor has it that the U.S.A. has been pushing for the NGL
chattels: My sense is that Abadi may be embarrassed and unable to assure the " world " of his government being inclusive without agreement / passage of the NGL
chattels: the foregoing appears to be in large part the text of Abadi's full remarks before the U.N.
OOTW: AGREED CHATTELS
OOTW: VERY GOOD INSIGHTS AND I THANK YOU
chattels: Parliament to raise its next Saturday www.alliraqnews.com/modul...
OOTW: THERE'S JUST TOO MANY STILL IN THE GOI WHO SEEM SET IN THEIR WAYS AND ARE UNABLE TO BE DEPOSED
chattels: ‹@OOTW› ‹@OOTW› Have you seen a draft of the three presidencies law ?
chattels: or have a link ?
OOTW: OH LET ME SEE
OOTW: DARN THE PARLIAMENT SITE IS DOWN
OOTW: BUT NO, I'VE NOT YET SEEN THE TEXT OF THIS LAW TO ANY LENGTH - JUST THE SUMMARY
chattels: referred the House Speaker Saleem al-Jubouri, during a parliament session on Thursday, the drafting of a parliamentary decision to reject political quota system, to the Parliamentary Legal Committee.
According to a parliamentary source told all of Iraq [where], that " 101 deputies demanded the inclusion of a resolution to reject political quota system", adding that "Parliament Speaker Salim al request to refer the request to the Legal Committee included the reconciliation committee to draft a law " .
chattels: the foregoing legislation is, IMO, central to the Abadi reforms
chattels: it is the quota system that created multiple vice presidents and other ministers
chattels: Abadi return to Iraq after he took part in the meetings of the General Assembly of the United Nations www.alliraqnews.com/modul...
[05:49:48 PM] OOTW: PLEASE SEE THIS THREAD FOR COM PRESS RELEASES ON THE THREE PRESIDENCIES
[05:49:52 PM] OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
chattels: the Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi issued guidance to sustain momentum in the battle breakers operations in Anbar and Mosul and Baiji.
A statement by the Prime Minister's office received by all of Iraq [where] a copy of it, said Abadi, "continued upon his return from New York, the progress of ongoing in all segments of operations of military and security operations, including Anbar, Baiji and Mosul."
Issued Abadi, according to the statement "during his visit to the headquarters of Joint Operations evening Today a group of orders and directives also stressed the importance of exerting more efforts to sustain the momentum achieved victories in the battlefield and the liberation of every inch of the land of Iraq, ".
chattels: Abadi seldom mentions to the success of the Peshmarga in my observation
chattels: ‹@OOTW› Thank you, very excellent - you 'da bomb ! :)
chattels: My read on the proposed three presidencies legislation is that it is intended to govern compensation and pension benefits for them and has no bearing upon the office of the vice presidents - we shall see
OOTW: YES I'M SEARCHING FOR A COPY OF THE TEXT ONLINE SINCE THE PARL SITE IS DOWN
chattels: the House of Representatives postponed, during its meeting on Thursday, the vote on the draft law amending the Income Tax Act. The MP said the Kurdistan Alliance Kaveh Mohammad, told all of Iraq [where], "Parliament postponed the vote on the draft law amending the Income Tax Law No. 113 of 1982" .
chattels: ‹@OOTW› Were you disappointed by the inaction upon the income tax law ?
chattels: All in all I thought Parliament was fairly productive today, eh ?
OOTW: YES I WAS CHATTELS
OOTW: "Council rejected a majority vote on the draft law amending the Income Tax Law No. 113 of 1982 and provided financial and legal committees for the purpose of increasing state revenues and the fact that taxes a tributary of these taxes."
blossom7454: thought I would see what was happening unfortuneatly I am going to lose internet for awhile so will be checkin in a cell phone at the gym by the weekend
chattels: (IraqiNews.com) Baghdad – The international coalition led by Washington announced on Thursday the training of about 15,000 Iraqi security elements, noting that the coalition has also provided 450 vehicles for detecting improvised explosive devices and mines.
The military spokesman of international coalition Steve Warren said in a press conference in the US embassy in Baghdad, attended by IraqiNews.com, “The coalition forces have trained more than 15,000 Iraqi security elements”,
adding that “the coalition has provided 450 armored vehicles, 200 missiles and tens of millions of ammunition for tanks and machine guns.”
Warren noted, “The coalition also provided Iraq with 450 vehicles for detecting improvised explosive devices and mines, and more than 200 missiles used against car bombs.” “Thanks to these efforts, the Iraqi forces regained 30% of the land that had been occupied by ISIS about a year ago,” he added.
chattels: " rejected a majority vote "
chattels: waiting / working for a consensus vote perhaps
chattels: " the purpose of increasing state revenues " is certainly needed
chattels: " ............ the Iraqi forces regained 30% of the land that had been occupied by ISIS about a year ago,”
chattels: which equals a little more than 10 % of all Iraq that has been recovered
chattels: which equals a little more than 10 % of all Iraq that has been recovered
chattels: so maybe 9 - 12 months from a full recovery - pure speculation on my part
chattels: (IraqiNews.com) Baghdad – On Tuesday the head of “Irada Movement,“ MP Hanan al Fatlawi, said that the Parliament plans to host the Minister of Higher Education and Scientific Research, Hussein al-Shahristani, in its meeting next Thursday,
pointing out that the session is the final deadline to question Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi. Fatlawi said in an interview for IraqiNews.com, “The session is determined to host the Minister of Higher Education and Scientific Research, Hussain al-Shahristani.” Fatlawi added that “the session also has been determined as the final deadline to question Defense Minister Khaled al-Obeidi.”
[06:26:07 PM] chattels: www.iraqinews.com/feature...
OOTW: BOY THAT'S THE POT CALLING THE KETTLE BLACK..MS FATCOWI -
OOTW: "KILL ALL THE SUNNI'S"
OOTW: SHE'S HORRIBLE