Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 8-2-15
Wealthwatch Member Chat 8-2-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: Al-Jubouri, Abadi and the National Forces Alliance review the political and security situation and file of the political agreement 01/08/2015 22:23 BAGHDAD / Nina / Speaker of the House of Representatives Salim al-Jubouri, and Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi and the parliamentary bloc of the National Forces Alliance reviewed in detail the nature of the situation on the political and security arenas in addition to the recent developments taking place in the Iraqi street.
During the meeting, which was hosted by the Speaker of Parliament today, according to a statement by his press office, discussed the file of the political agreement and the need to follow up the laws that have been agreed upon under the policy and the importance of the commitment of the political blocs to those laws through the support of their legislation in the House of Representatives.
chattels: Remember that the legislative agenda agreed upon a part of the formation of Abadi's government was / is only about 1/2 completed
chattels: Both the Sunni and Kurds are awaiting the fulfillment of the promises made by Abadi
disciple7: a long time coming
chattels: The decentralization to be effected by the Provincial law is very important
disciple7: ‹@chattels› if ur willing what does that mean exactly?
chattels: Roudao - Erbil The President of the House of Representatives Alajabua sound, that next Wednesday's 5 8 2015 will witness a qualitative change on the administrative and political system in Iraq level. Jubouri said during a speech at a conference activate the second amendment to the law of the provinces
"We inaugurate together a critical stage of decentralization and put in the way of practical application hard to transfer paragraphs, concepts and ramifications law 21 for the year 2008 for the expansion of provincial powers and which stipulates that the provincial council is the highest authority legislation and control within the administrative borders of the province. "
chattels: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=1486
chattels: Eight (8) ministries are to be transferred to " local " / provincial control
disciple7: ‹@chattels› ok thanks
chattels: ‹@disciple7› many think that it is an important step for an inclusive, accountable, democratic society and will reduce corruption / improve efficiency in government
chattels: ‹@disciple7› that is ny read on it in a nutshell
disciple7: ‹@chattels› sounds good
chattels: What does it mean for our liquidity event, directly, indirectly, short tern or long term ? - If i knew that i probably would not be in this chat room :)
disciple7: hahaha agreed
chattels: ‹@disciple7› was my reply responsive to your question ?
disciple7: ‹@chattels› yes sir it was thank you
Donnie: ‹@chattels› TY for bringing the news and deciphering it for us!
chattels: ‹@Donnie› Remember that there is no fact, only opinion, no truth, only perspective - Marcus Aurelius :)
chattels: Yesterday ............. .. Abadi: we will continue to austerity 01/08/2015 20:08 BAGHDAD / Nina / The Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi said on Saturday that the government will continue to austerity. He noted during his speech in front of the Supreme Commission for coordination between the governorates not organized in a province:
"The social solidarity and reduce the gap between the citizen and official is important, and the deduction of part of the salaries of the three presidencies allocations, although it does not support the budget, but with few amounts, but it is important .
Donnie: ‹@chattels› TY for reminding me.
chattels: ‹@Donnie› None of us is so very smart or good.
chattels: We all suffer from an intellectual conceit in trying to understand this undertaking upon which so many of us have entrusted our health, wealth and happiness
chattels: It is presumptuous of us to think that we can anticipate the timing and outcome of this event with any degree of reliable certainty
chattels: Thus sayeth the " wet blanket " :)
chattels: What Iraq needs to survive In describing the Iraqi dilemma since 2003, some Iraqis have been attributing the problem to political rather than social factors, whereby all disputes were ascribed to political causes.
The prevailing thought among these Iraqis is that Iraq did not suffer from any social, sectarian, religious or ethnic rifts that contributed to this fractious state of affairs. Read more:
chattels: Iraq is in need of serious efforts to organize a campaign in this regard that includes the promotion of social synergy and the culture of coexistence.
This campaign would start with educational curricula, affect the media and reach clerics and clan elders as well as cultural and intellectual symposia, culminating in the drafting of supportive laws that strengthen social cohesion and prevent future social fragmentation. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...
chattels: What is required in the context of the country’s political pursuit of initiatives aimed at reaching national reconciliation, as part of preparedness for the post-Islamic State (IS) era, is for the government, politicians, media personalities, religious figures and concerned organizations to seek long-term action and initiatives meant to address social trouble. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...
chattels: Tolerance and compromise are difficult for the Iraqis in general. The Kurds have managed to make progress in regards to the foregoing which explains in part their comparative peace and progress.
waychngr: ‹@chattels› ok... a dinar question that's surely been addressed... but I've not found it yet..... WE who have dinar with the certificates from DC.... ARE THEY VALID IF THE COMPANY IS FOUND GUILTY OF ILLEGAL BUSINESS PRACTICES?.......
BOBBY: waychngr... as long as your dinar is legit, you should not have any problems
chattels: ‹@waychngr› there is the possibility that currency is smuggled i suppose even if it is authentic
TxBrand: Only the top 10 candidates -- calculated by an average of the last five major national polls -- will be eligible to participate in Thursday's FOX News debate in primetime, according to the network's rules.
Incorporating the new NBC/WSJ numbers, NBC estimates that the top ten candidates at this time are: •Trump - 19.8 percent •Walker - 13.2 percent •Bush - 13 percent •Paul - 6.4 percent •Carson - 6.4 percent •Rubio - 6.2 percent •Huckabee - 5.8 percent •Cruz - 5.8 percent •Christie - 3.2 percent •Kasich - 3.2 percent
chattels: not probability
TxBrand: Those missing the cut are: •Perry - 2.6 percent •Santorum - 1.4 percent •Jindal - 1.4 percent •Fiorina - 0.6 percent •Pataki - 0.6 percent •Graham- 0.4 percent •Gilmore - 0 percent
chattels: I heard Christie say something about Trump that made some sense yesterday
EdoBini: Gilmore- 0. wow
disciple7: ‹@chattels› what he say
chattels: He questions whether Trump's " skillset " in the private business world translates well into public service / government
[05:18:03 PM] chattels: Feds/CFTC Files Major Civil Action Against Dinar Corp! Dinars.me has learned that the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) has filed a Civil Action against Dinar Corp, Inc (www.dinarcorp.com).
Our attorney friend, David Shurtz, was able to obtain a copy of the original filing for us. Please, do not buy into those claiming this is somehow a “minor matter” simply because the US government did not file a criminal complaint against them yet.
This is a serious matter. Additional details including a copy of the filing will be shared soon. Subscribers may receive additional information not posted on the website.
chattels: Let's not attempt to argue one candidate as to the other please
faith: We have more important things to discuss...like Dinars. Lets stay on topic.
faith: So another Dinar outlet bites the dust! What is going on?????
chattels: religion and politics while important do not play well in a chat room intended for other purposes
chattels: i should not have broached the subject in here, mea culpa
BOBBY: anyone got a bank story lol
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› i have always had a weakness for bank and bedtime stories. " Once upon a time ........................ and they all lived happily thereafter. " :)
waychngr: ok folks.... time to get ready.. my daughter & I are off to the Ohio State Fair :) ... fair food, amazing art, 4H, FFA exhibits, live music, animals etc. ... it's still the largest state fair in the US... enjoy the rest of this beautiful day!!!! thx 4 all you do!!!!!!! :smile:
BOBBY: Chattels..... did you see Kaps latest post on Dinar Guru?
disciple7: ‹@BOBBY› can u post?
disciple7: seems Kap is thinking 2017 eh....
star diamond: 2017. Not good
Sam: not two more years...help me Jesus
star diamond: 2 more years they need to get this going by2016
disciple7: Kaps opinion is .10 possibly by 2017
disciple7: lemme check that again
every year one more year every event one more event...these guys just need to get it done
tourman: Kap has no facts to back that up.. its all assumtions.
disciple7: ‹@tourman› agreed
disciple7: for once I agree with him though.. I believe 2017 also
KiwiDoc: Where is da plane???? da plane,,,,,where is it?
KiwiDoc: Is it possible that finally they are beginning to clamp down on Maliki?
disciple7: ‹@KiwiDoc› seems so :smile:
KiwiDoc: ‹@disciple7› was it true that the money laundering law failed...or just rumor?
disciple7: ‹@KiwiDoc› I believe its in the forum but I remember reading an article about an embarrasement and I believe it was talking about the money laundering law
disciple7: i believe they have til October per the world bank to get it through though
graylnjo: I can forecast just like Kap...........This will NEVER happen and Iraq will fall on the ash heap of history.......see how easy it is !! :w00t:
KiwiDoc: ‹@disciple7› there will be alot of hiding to go on between now and then. Their mentalities are similar to the old Russian communists that when the wall fell, they became private or freemarket folks yet all the time all they did was change the color of their shirts.
Abadi is from the same cloth as Maliki, and some if not many of Abadi's people will ultimately be caught doing what Maliki and his goons have done I believe. Cleaning the hen house in the end might mean there will be *** few hens left.
disciple7: ‹@KiwiDoc› we will see what happens..
graylnjo: If abadi REALLY wanted this to happen, I don't think we would be here now. Iraqi politics is deep sewage. They have a strange mindset !! :silly:
disciple7: ‹@graylnjo› its a good thought but he does have a lot on his plate including cleaning up Malikis mess.. could this be going faster imo yes but we wait..
graylnjo: Yes we wait :whistling:
Donnie: 1 Aug 2015 22:20 UTC - 2 Aug 2015 22:24 UTC USD/IQD close:1156.0 low:1156.0 high:1192.0
Donnie: seems gold is not bouncing off the 5 year new low like our Mr. Goldxxx says would happen. Another so called guru bites the dust... lol
KiwiDoc: ‹@chattels› Was just away making breakfast.....how goes the battle?
MichelleL: i bought reserves once in my life, back in 2009 or 2010 - redeemed within 30 days, hated myself for doing it and never did it again
jazzyblue: i live by that old rule if you dont have the cash to spend you must have not wanted or needed it that bad lol
MichelleL: I have an investment limit - real investments, bogus ones etc lol - once i've reached the limit (which is as much as I can afford to lose without breaking a sweat - not necessarily without crying) I'm done
jazzyblue: that has crossed my mind, and i think that was one of the possibilites as to why i didnt do the reserve thing
jazzyblue: why would REALLY happen in the end
MichelleL: why would anyone give us 3 million dollars for 1 thousand??? it does boggle the mind
MichelleL: for that matter, why would someone give us 25k for 1k lol
jazzyblue: lol true enough
jazzyblue: heck just fold the company or get caught you dont have to give anything lol
jazzyblue: and THATS what irks me
MichelleL: I really really do feel for those who've gotten caught up in the reserves jazzy - sorry
jazzyblue: they have probably ALREADY spent the money ...........so those people lose regardless GRRRRR
jazzyblue: oh i hate it i hate it totally
MichelleL: thankful we don't have any but nevertheless I do have some concern - hope everyone is holding enough "real currency" to make up their losses though
jazzyblue: totally agreed on that michelle......i just felt so badly when they one guy told me over 7k i was like WHAT?
MichelleL: jazzy the sad thing is that he could have just had 7mil in currency without reserves, greed drove him to get more, if he was telling the truth
MichelleL: maybe he was talking about 7mil reserves jazzy?
jazzyblue: i THINK he was because he was so genuinely concerned over the incident
MichelleL: i used to have this fight monthly with one of my friends back in the day - used to tell him
jazzyblue: well i know he said 7k
MichelleL: "just buy 100k and you'll have a mil in less than a year"
MichelleL: maybe 7k to redeem? its a lot to lay out in reserves on a monthly basis jazzy
MichelleL: more than I could afford, for sure, at any point lol
jazzyblue: like i said he said 7k when he said that i just went WHAT and then he started talking about what had happened what will happen you know all the questions and stuff
MichelleL: but thats a huge stake to put up on a reserve each month
jazzyblue: could be, like i said that was all he mentioned to me hun
MichelleL: i can see marriages breaking up over spending like that, easily
jazzyblue: oh yeah me too
MichelleL: my husband had no idea how much i had lol - i eventually let him know but i wasn't taking food off the table for it either
MichelleL: now he's waiting to bump me off ROFL
jazzyblue: i just dont want any certain person(s) hyping that company up if in fact they DO have a bad name and are in criminal activity
jazzyblue: hey that receipt is in your name use that lol
MichelleL: I dont really care, just hope his victims are smart enough to wise up and not keep buying into his hype
jazzyblue: i care for the people, i care if they are being lied to and then ran under the bus :(
MichelleL: at some point, you have to hope they're smart enough to see the writing on the wall
MichelleL: sczin need I point out, another ramadan come and gone? lol goodnight jazzy, sczin, zid and anyone else awake out here :)
chattels: United States Commodity Futures Trading Commission v. Dinar Corp., Inc. et al Court Name: U.S. Civil Court Records for the Middle District of Alabama Case Number: 1:15-cv-00538 Party Name: United States Commodity Futures Trading Commission v. Dinar Corp., Inc. et al Filing Type: Civil [Order] Date Published: July 30, 2015 Public access to court electronic records are available via www.pacer.gov. In other words, if you want to look at the complaint, you can register for a Pacer account at pacer.psc.uscourts.gov/ps
.... There is no registration fee, but there's a fee to access PACER. I believe it's $.10 per page. www.pacer.gov/ www.open-public-records.c...
jazzyblue: dont that figure.........ya pay to see who is getting the money lol