Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 9-5-15
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chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region - Presidential hopeful Donald Trump mixed up the Kurds, a 35-million strong ethnic group, with the the Quds Force, Iran's overseas special forces, in a nationally syndicated radio interview Thursday, although the billionaire quickly pointed to the alleged mistreatment of the Kurds by the United States.
Trump also appeared to be confused about the difference between the pro-Palestinian group Hamas and Hezbollah, the Iran-backed militia in Lebanon.
chattels: When asked about the difference between Hamas and Hezbollah at the end of the interview, Trump said he will know the difference “when it’s appropriate.” chattels: rudaw.net/english/kurdist...
BOBBY: has anyone heard any news regarding Abadi suspending the constitution? OOTW touched on it last night
Tootsie: ‹@Oneness› I was reading history, and am wondering, about couple comments made about women, on dollar, and ~~ not picking a fight, but there is no reason a woman can't be on the dollar. Look around many, many women are powereful and intelligent and have been leaders of industry, goverments, medicine, and so on and so on ~~~
BOBBY: Tootsie...... i agree
Tootsie: women have been at the helm of such for many years, even going back to biblical days, many powerful women
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› www.chakooch.com/news.php
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Reported that Abadi " considering "
EdoBini: What do you smart folks think of acquiring some Iranian Riel to hold
chattels: always been a questionable source
BOBBY: Tootsie..... i am a firm believer in equality. ....... straight across the board
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› 03/09/2015 (00:01 pm) Baghdad / term-Presse Denied the Information Office of the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, on Wednesday, demanding the Prime Minister to dissolve parliament and form an emergency government, and as pointed out can not be done without the consent of the President of the Republic,................. chattels: www.almadapaper.net/ar/ne... LINK
chattels: "the approval of the dissolution of Parliament requiring the president within 60 days calling for the election of a new parliament", pointing out that " The second mechanism includes a request from the Prime Minister and approved by the President of the Republic, and send it to parliament for a vote.
BOBBY: Chattels. ....... what are your thoughts on that item?
chattels: "The first is to apply for one-third of the members of parliament to resolve the Council, and not canceled, to be voted on by an absolute majority."
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Iraq is no position to hold elections - one third of the country is controlled by DAESH
Tootsie: true that
BOBBY: Chattels. ......... could you apply that info to an RV??????????
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Oneness: @Tootsie ....i like the idea of a picture of a women or women on currency ... in American history i think the peace dollar is perhaps the most beautiful coin made
BOBBY: would it not just help finance there agenda?
EdoBini: l don't think Abadi has a got to dissolve the Parliament. A man who not arrest Maliki when he was caught with Bullion of Gold at the airport on his way to Syria. Abadi is very weak to do something like that
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› I have said for months that the prospect of an " RV " are negatively impacted by DAESH
Oneness: i just question the motives of those who decide to put what images on what currency
Tootsie: ‹@Oneness› oh?, I won' t pursue, but I copied the statements from last evening. There are no "motives" just respecting a person
Oneness: Hamilton is perhaps the strongest president that fought the ideas of a "central bank"
chattels: What's next for Abadi? It is no secret that the internal and regional disputes that dashed former Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s hopes of serving a third term eventually led to a fragile agreement on forming the new government, ultimately established by Haider al-Abadi, in September 2014.
Although Prime Minister Abadi has exerted great effort to maintain a balance between factions and keep the country from falling prey to confrontations between rival camps, the extent of the polarization he continues to face is making his task difficult. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...
BOBBY: Tootsie....... who would you like to see on a bill?
Tootsie: Mrs. Roosevelt
BOBBY: Tootsie....... interesting choice
Tootsie: She was a great woman, or, well I don't remember the listing, but heck, they were all great, proud, loyal, females, , heck, maybe even Pocahontis
chattels: . It is not easy to bring about qualitative change in the existing political structure under the current circumstances, except in the event of early elections resulting in a new parliament and a new distribution of power. This, however, is impossible in light of IS’ current control of most Sunni provinces. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...
Tootsie: spelled wrong, Of course , Dang!
BOBBY: Chattels. ......... do you think Abadi is gaining strength with the clerical backing?
[05:24:03 PM] chattels: What the Iraqi street is asking of Abadi is to make radical changes that involve dismissing some figures and eliminating positions.
He still, however, needs to put forth a strategic and clear road map of how he plans to provide services, empower state institutions and uproot corruption. The support of the protesters and the religious authority is dependent on tangible change.
The failure on Abadi’s part to yield results will only intensify the public’s indignation and further irritate Sistani. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› Abadi is " between a rock and a hard place "
Oneness: really iraq is hamstrung ... can't do anything without international trading currency
Tootsie: ‹@chattels› putting it mildly ~ sadly
BOBBY: Chattels. ....... do you see an implosion?
chattels: One should not assign a " messiah " like identity to Abadi
chattels: Abadi is Dawa party
Tootsie: Iraq could join in (if they can find partners) a currency swap, such as other countries that do not have recognized currencies; however, in the shape they are in it would be rather futile endeavor
Tootsie: ‹@chattels› have not seen any recent articles encouraging him to resign from Dawa either. ?
chattels: Iraq may not make it.
BOBBY: Oneness...... i believe the government needs to be somewhat structured before anything,...... your thoughts?
BB824: dash only has the power that the articles leave to belive after being in direct contract with friends of families working out of many parts of iraq they say otherwise
Oneness: yes .. past debt maybe an issue too ... paris club, kuwait , bonds, etc'
Tootsie: I am sure there are safer area and much unsafer areas
chattels: ‹@Tootsie› there has been suggestions about such resignation
Tootsie: ‹@Oneness› probably so ~
EdoBini: @ Chattels. Thank you. Abadi is weak. He is viewed so in Iraq. His inability to replace the CBI proxy says it all .
Oneness: i think coalition forces tried to make a government that they could understand and work with
chattels: From the perspectives of the political parties, public opinion and the religious authority, Abadi's reforms do not extend beyond the level of minor modifications and have not brought any real change to the political or governing system. Read more: www.al-monitor.com/pulse/...
Oneness: @chattels ... agree with that part of article
Oneness: too little ... too late
chattels: Allaq is Dawa party
chattels: Just because there is continuing talk of no proxy positions does not necessarily mean that Allaq will not continue as the governor of the CBI
EdoBini: My prediction for Abadi is this. If Abadi refuses to increase the purchasing powers of the Iraqi people by the New Year, He will be brought down form power. A leader must lead and not be led by the street.
Oneness: it really is a question of law
chattels: ‹@EdoBini› Why do you think that Iraq has the unilateral ability to increase the value of the IQD ?
chattels: ‹@EdoBini› May be the international community will not accept a higher value
Oneness: maybe the international cumminty should decide for itself
chattels: ‹@Oneness› ????????
Oneness: instead of having some "secret body" saying no soup for you
BOBBY: Secret body ???????
Tootsie: me too ???????
BOBBY: the suspense is killing me lol
Oneness: what is stopping iraq from trading internationally ... ?? ... not you , not me, not the 6 billion people of the world
Oneness: there is some secret that we are not aware of that holds iraq into essentially a small town status
BOBBY: Oneness....... do you believe the 6 billion people have a say in this?
Oneness: a local currency if you will ...
Oneness: i would say 6 billionn people would want iraq to trade internationally
chattels: Iraq trades internationally already - they use the U.S. dollar and can do so indefinitely
Oneness: @chattels ... the n we should have not printed dinar if we wanted to trade dollars
Tootsie: ‹@chattels› correct , and they have been ,
BOBBY: Oneness..... i am curious as to your thoughts
chattels: ‹@Oneness› ??????????
BOBBY: Oneness......... we?
chattels: Iraq's budget is about the size of the State of California
Tootsie: and as far as the infamous ' reality rate' it is , per CBI site 1166 / varies daily on forex however. Reality is the state of things as they actually exist, rather than as they may appear or might be imagined ~~
Oneness: the coalition of forces
Oneness: could have insisted upon using dollaars in the region
BOBBY: Tootsie........ dont tell me she is wrong. lol
Tootsie: ‹@Oneness› you are referring to the CPA - ?
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› shhh it is a secret