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OOTW: I HAVE FOUND SOME NEWS WHICH HAS PIQUED MY INTEREST
OOTW: ACCOUNTABILITY AND JUSTICE LAW ENACTED? Interior Announces Upgrade covered by law
OOTW: HERE IS THE ARTICLE - AND THEN I WILL FOLLOW WITH A PRESS RELEASE FROM THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR'S WEBSITE
OOTW: Interior Announces Upgrade covered by the de-Baathification officers [Image: story_img_568a2868dc06a.jpg] The Ministry of the Interior, announced the promotion of officers to the rank of the highest covered by the procedures of the accountability and justice [de-Baathification previously].
According to a statement of the Information Office of the Minister of Interior received by the agency all of Iraq [where] a copy of it, "Interior Minister Mohammed Ghabban convene a meeting of stakeholders in the administrative agency of the Ministry to discuss the upgrade,"
noting that "the initial meeting to discuss the procedures and the mechanism that promised administrative agency in the preparation of upgrade schedule December 2016 "."
The Agency has been able to develop a centralized system to extract the names of the persons entitled to the upgrade of the officers according to an electronic system centrally and Overture agencies and directorates and configurations to match the names and the receipt of the objections that have been identified for a month and extended month last expired on 12.31.2015.
OOTW: "covered by the procedures of the accountability and justice"
OOTW: "noting that "the initial meeting to discuss the procedures and the mechanism that promised administrative agency in the preparation of upgrade schedule December 2016"
OOTW: "and configurations to match the names and the receipt of the objections that have been identified for a month and extended month last expired on 12.31.2015."
OOTW: NOW HERE'S THIS FROM THE MINISTRY OF INTERIOR'S SITE
OOTW: January to discuss the upgrade schedule for 2016 / Interior Minister held a meeting with the administrative agency. Topic has been read 60 times [Image: %D8%AA%D8%B1%D9%82%D9%8A%D8%A9.jpg] 01/03/2016 23:52
Where the Agency was able to develop a centralized system to extract the names of the persons entitled to the upgrade of the officers according to an electronic system centrally and Overture agencies and directorates and configurations to match the names and the receipt of the objections that have been identified for a month and extended month last expired on 31/12
The Agency has received nearly four thousand objection has worked to address them in accordance with the Law and controls were the preparation of initial menus and included three lists for all ranks from lieutenant to the rank of Brigade according to the following: -1. upgrade to rank higher
OOTW: 2-upgrade to rank higher and retirement and as requested by the officer
OOTW: "3. upgrade to rank higher for procedures covered by the accountability and justice conditional on the approval of the Commander in Chief of the armed forces on the excluded."
OOTW: And other meetings will be held to approve the final lists, it should be noted that the administrative agency has made great efforts in the preparation of this system which will be developed to ensure transparency and to achieve higher accuracy to be upgrade according to entitlements and are unmistakably
OOTW: AGAIN HERE IS THE THREAD LINK
OOTW: HERE IS A PARAGRAPH FROM AN ARTICLE ON THIS LAW FROM JULY 2015 - WHICH IS ALSO WHEN THE PARLIAMENT SITE STATES THIS LAW WAS LAST READ (EARLY JULY) –
THE PARLIAMENT SITE SHOWS ONLY ONE READING OF THIS LAW HAS TRANSPIRED
OOTW: July 7, 2015Comments on the parliamentary committee: Accountability Act gives pension rights for members of the Saddam Fedayeen and Baathist people closed 124 Visit The chairman of the Commission on Reconciliation and Justice and Accountability in Parliament MP Hisham al-Suhail, Tuesday, that the draft ban Baath Party Law and Justice and Accountability includes granting pension rights for the Fedayeen Saddam and members of the divisions and branches of the Baath Party, while noting the existence of the efforts to separate the ban on accountability law.
OOTW: " while noting the existence of the efforts to separate the ban on accountability law."
OOTW: I CANNOT VERIFY THROUGH OFFICIAL SITES THAT THIS LAW HAS BEEN ENACTED, CERTAINLY THERE SEEMS THE POTENTIAL, VIA THE WORDING IN THE FIRST ARTICLE (WHICH I THINK FOR NOW IS TOO ARABISH TO SAY ONE WAY OR THE OTHER) THAT THERE IS AN INTENTION TO ENACT (AT LEAST) PORTIONS OF THIS LAW BY DEC 2016 - ALTHOUGH THE SUBSEQUENT ARTICLE STATES WITHIN ONE MONTH FROM DECEMBER 2015
OOTW: I FIND THIS INTENTION VERY, VERY INTERESTING - BECAUSE IT WOULD SEEM FUTILE TO ENACT SEGMENTS OF THIS LAW, APPLY IT TOWARDS MEMBERS/SEGMENTS OF IRAQI POLICE/MILITARY - IF THE LAW WERE NOT EITHER IN FORCE, OR WERE SOON TO BE?
OOTW: ARE THEY SIMPLY ENACTING A PARAGRAPH OF THE LAW (FOR NOW)?
OOTW: HERE IS ONE SECTION OF THE LAW
OOTW: Article 9 of grades civilian and military ranks and decorations and titles granted to member band canceled or above in the ranks of the Baath Party (defunct) because of their affiliation to the party in question, and revoked privileges implications
waldowould: Please clarify what this has to do monetary reform
OOTW: I DID NOT STATE THAT THIS HAD ANYTHING TO DO WITH MONETARY REFORM - HOWEVER, CERTAINLY, IT HAS BEEN A LONG HELD BELIEF THAT ANY LAWS PERTAINING TO DISTANCE FROM THE BAATHIST REGIME AND OR WHICH PROVIDE COHESION WITHIN IRAQI SOCIETY - SUPPORT ECONOMIC REFORM - WE HAVE MANY SUCH ARTICLES IN OUR FORUM
OOTW: HERE IS BUT ONE SUCH THREAD OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
OOTW: ALSO THIS LAW RELATES TO PENSIONS
OOTW: AND MUCH MORE
OOTW: I WILL POST (AGAIN) THE TEXT OF THIS LAW IN TODAY'S THREAD
OOTW: ALSO THIS LAW GOVERNS GOVT EMPLOYEE CONDITIONS
OOTW: AGE LIMITS / REQUIREMENTS AS WELL AS EDUCATION REQUIREMENTS
OOTW: THIS WOULD APPLY AS WELL TO MEMBERS OF THE JUDICIARY
OOTW: THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT
Doug_W: Nan was asking about U I will tell her ur still kicking
OOTW: THESE CONDITIONS APPLY TO ALL MEMBERS OF THE GOVT INCLUDING IN FINANCIAL DIVISIONS
Doug_W: its about time there were some rules OOTW
OOTW: HERE IS THE LINK TO THE TEXT OF THE LAW
OOTW: YEP DOUG
waldowould: Yep, tell her I send her my best wishes
Doug_W: will do Waldo
[01:57:11 PM] Doug_W: ‹@waldowould› DONE my friend
OOTW: HERE ARE THE "REASONS" FOR THIS LAW AS STATED POST LEGAL TEXT - AT BOTTOM OF LAW
OOTW: Reasons A continuation of the measures taken by the Supreme National Commission for Accountability that justice in the purge of Iraqi society and state institutions of the Baath Party system (dissolved), and the purpose of the assignment of members of organs of repression and associates of the former regime into retirement and to bring those who committed their crimes against the Iraqi people or enriched at the expense of public money to the competent courts ,
due to the existence of cases of affiliation my photos to certain categories of people to the ranks of the party (dissolved) with no faith in the ideas of the Baath dictatorship and its repressive practices,
For the purpose of reconstruction of not rank of Full Member or above to function, and in order to prohibit the return of the Baath Party (defunct) or be a part of political pluralism or party in Iraq and prevent the emergence of parties or entities or persons adopt racism, terrorism or atonement, or ethnic cleansing, or incite or pave or promote or glorify or justify it, especially the Baath and its symbols,
under any name whatsoever and punished, and for the simplification of the grievance and appeal procedures in the decisions issued by the Board of the right covered by its provisions,
OOTW: THIS WOULD ALSO REMOVE PROTECTIONS FOR ANYONE ASSOCIATED WITH THE BAATHISTS AND OPEN THEM UP FOR PROSECUTION OF CRIMES, INCLUDING CORRUPTION
OOTW: IT PROVES SLIGHTLY DIFFICULT ;) TO SEE HOW THEY CAN ENACT ONE SECTION OF THE LAW - WITHOUT THE ENTIRE LAW BEING PASSED/ IN FORCE
waldowould: Democracy is an ongoing process, working sometimes but it has its own loopholes
OOTW: ON ANOTHER TOPIC, I'M WATCHING THE REP FOR THE OREGON RANCHERS ON TV...HE IS AN HIGHLY ARTICULATE GENTLEMAN AND MAKES A GREAT CASE FOR THE RANCHERS
OOTW: THE LIST OF GRIEVANCES AGAINST THE GOVT SPEAK OF WHAT I CONSIDER SIGNIFICANT BREACHES OF THE CONSTITUTION
OOTW: HOWEVER, THE METHODS UNDER WHICH THEY TOOK OVER THE FED BUILDING - MAYBE NOT SO GREAT ;)
Doug_W: imagine them going to jail 4 an accidental fire
Doug_W: Arson OMG how pitiful an approach
Donnie: Oil may fall to $18 amid Gulf tensions: Kilduff
Donnie: "I think you're going to get as low as $18 and maybe get as high as $48. ... It's going to get really ugly," he told CNBC's "Squawk Box." "The Iranians doubled down again, if that's even possible, by saying that they could put 500,000 more barrels on the market within weeks after the sanctions get lifted."
Donnie: read more here: finance.yahoo.com/news/oi...
Donnie: Internationally traded Brent crude (Intercontinental Exchange Europe: @LCO.1) rose about 2 percent to $38 per barrel on Monday, supported by Iranian-Saudi tensions. OPEC has declined to impose production caps to prop up crude prices, accelerating a rout that has cut the cost of oil by two-thirds from its highs in 2014.
"OPEC maybe as we know it is over because these two are not going to be coming together any time soon on modifying or moderating production," Kilduff said.
Doug_W: to Iran this is a windfall they have been operating with out ANY oil income to speak of
Donnie: ‹@Doug_W› as far as you know....
Donnie: they are good friends of Turkey and Russia which either could have been selling Iranian oil
Doug_W: very true