Wealthwatch Morning Chat 7-21-15 Part 1 of 2
chattels: ‹@Donnie› Even though financial expert Catherine Austin Fitts thinks the chance of total collapse is “relatively small” she’s not discounting the chance of a major move this fall. Fitts contends, “I think this fall is going to be a major turning point.
You see the SDR (Special Drawing Rights) system coming to a head. The U.S. budget is going to be a very difficult debate. You see the push to get the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and the EU deal done.
You have a lot of institutional relationships that needed to be restructured in the last couple of years. Those changes are all coming to a head, and so we are going to get a big shift.
If you are managing a big bond fund, you got a big problem. . . . There is going to be a turn in the bond market or a plateau, and that’s going to be uncomfortable for those guys, and we are going to see some messy times.”
OOTW: YES I SAW THIS ARTICLE CHATTELS, IT'S VERY GOOD...TY FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO
OOTW: I'm back. On phone now
OOTW: Think the Kurds will see oil and gas passed? The humor in the last two words has not escaped me lol
sczin11: MALIKI TO THE ICC... Iraq Nuri al-Maliki .. when the ruling turns to accused By Omar
sczin11: Escalate the pace of the charges made to the current Vice-President of the Republic and former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, the submission of an international court may likely on charges of war crimes and violation of human rights.
Iraq, one of the most eras in the history of live soccer worse, and what is happening in the country threatens to cause a tragic, some carrying former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki the repercussions of what is going through Iraqi provinces such as Anbar, Nineveh and Salahuddin, Diyala and Baghdad.
Mosul events that led to the control of the "Islamic State" Daash on Iraq's largest Sunni-dominated cities last summer, Nuri al-Maliki made the headlines of the charges about the military collapse that accompanied the flight of his troops.
The spread video clips show the Iraqi army during the rule of Nuri al-Maliki, random arrests of civilians without judicial catch diary, as well as the practice of torture by police and security services to detainees found innocent later. All this indicates that the Vice President may go to the International Criminal Tribunal for the accusation against the Iraqi judiciary independence.
She stressed the MP for the rule of law Emotions grace, the pressure exerted by the political blocs to provide mass leader Nuri al-Maliki to the International Criminal Court.
It also accused some politicians for trying to "promote the trial of Vice President Nuri al-Maliki, which proved the extent of concern for all of their concerns and bring them to justice for treason according to the scandals which published them in the Wikileaks documents."
sczin11: He claimed the deputy in the Iraqi parliament, just Nuri network Roudao media, said that "al-Maliki is primarily responsible for the fall of Mosul, however, the courts in Iraq will not be impartial in the trial, and therefore call for his trial at the International Criminal Court in The Hague."
And download MP of Kurdish blocs, full responsibility for the fall of the Vice President of the Republic of Mosul, demanding not to waste time presenting Iraqi courts for not "neutral," he says.
Nineveh tribes accusing directed to the Vice President Nuri al-Maliki, where carry-Sheikh Waddah pus, is responsible for the fall of Mosul, however, of the "Islamic State" Daash. Pus occur network Roudao media, saying: "Maliki deliberately tolerated addressing breaches of security in Nineveh province, also committed abuses against the population."
He called pus, providing Nuri al-Maliki to justice, noting that Iraq's stability depends on the trial of Vice President of the Republic in international courts.
] sczin11: MALIKI TO THE ICC... Iraq Nuri al-Maliki .. when the ruling turns to accused By Omar
[07/21/2015 07:21:21 AM] sczin11: READ WHOLE STORY wealthwatch.world/showthr...
GJMAN: when does he go, that's the question
[07/21/2015 07:32:02 AM] GJMAN: sczin11 translate.google.com/tran...
MichelleL: ‹@GJMAN› interesting, thanks
GJMAN: i wonder what is meant by while the second line aims to find possible goods that are exported to overseas and get hard currency dinar that will support and strengthen the local economy and the market.... get "hard currency dinar"
GJMAN: strange wording IMO
MichelleL: its definitely bewildering - they're talking about someone else's currency I would suppose lol - kuwait?
GJMAN: i think it means dinar that has value
MichelleL: ‹@GJMAN› Sounds too good to be true, but I like it lol
GJMAN: not toilet paper :tongue:
MichelleL: shhhhh you weren't going to tell lol
MichelleL: it was an emergency ROFL~
: ‹@GJMAN› TY
BOBBY: sczin11.... got a question if you got time
sczin11: ‹@BOBBY› GO
Dianne777: ‹@MichelleL› wow time does fly doesnt it? lol
MichelleL: lol Dianne, we're still at "any minute now"
Dianne777: thats very good
Dianne777: lol yes any minute bahahahaha
BOBBY: is it your belief of a rate change to benifit the investment portion of the budget?
sczin11: ‹@BOBBY› :)
sczin11: ‹@BOBBY› I CAN NOT FATHOM ANY OTHER EXPLANATION WHY NOTHING HAS BEEN RELEASED BY THE CBI FOR THAT PORTION OF THE BUDGET, YET OPERATIONAL SIDE HAS HAD PARTIAL RELEASES OF FUNDS
BOBBY: sczin.. re reading some of the info you posted on the subject
chattels: ERBIL, Kurdistan Region — A new report examined the strategy behind the devastating Islamic State attack on Khan Bani Saad town in Diyala province on July 17 that killed more than 115 adults and children who were celebrating the end of Ramadan.
chattels: The attack on Khan Bani Saad was an ISIS bid to distract the security forces from those fronts where the terror group is on the firm defensive. The ISW report said the lack of Iraqi forces enabled ISIS to expand its footholds in Diyala and left a swath of territory near Baghdad unprotected.
chattels: "ISIS will likely continue to orchestrate attacks throughout widespread regions of Iraq in order to further stretch the footprint of the ISF [Iraqi Security Forces], open exploitable opportunities for future expansion, and alleviate recent pressure on ISIS in Fallujah and Baiji,” the report said.
[07/21/2015 08:05:23 AM] chattels: rudaw.net/english/middlee...
chattels: this report highlights the problem of continual protection to recovered areas
chattels: it is another day in our parallel universe :)
chattels: called " dinarland " and Iraq
BOBBY: everyday is an opportunity
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› carpe diem, eh ?
BOBBY: Chattels... gotta grab it while you can...... sorry if that sounds like a beer comerical
chattels: Seize the day, make the most of today, enjoy the present.
chattels: arguably somewhat hedonistic
sczin11: ‹@chattels› a mantra i am learning to live by
BOBBY: hedonistic or not .... only way to live
chattels: but, all work and no play makes Jack a dull boy indeed :)
BOBBY: my old hockey coach use to tell us if you dont do it in practice you won't do it in the game.
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› ‹@sczin11› yes, i prefer to define it as taking advantage of the opportunities presented everyday
MichelleL: ‹@chattels› and is the dinar work or play? lol
chattels: not dererring to tomorrow
chattels: ‹@MichelleL› toooo much work :)
] chattels: Thomas Jefferson, a man of habit and discipline, Jefferson compiled a list of ten rules of comportment for his namesake Thomas Jefferson Smith.
chattels: A DOZEN CANONS OF CONDUCT IN LIFE
chattels: 1. never put off to tomorrow what you can do to-day.
chattels: 2. never trouble another with what you can do yourself
captl1: got that one ...kind of
chattels: 3. never spend your money before you have it
captl1: that one is no fun
[07/21/2015 08:18:30 AM] chattels: 4. never buy a thing you do not want, because it is cheap, it will be dear to you.
captl1: a lesson for our governmeny
chattels: 5. take care of your cents: Dollars will take care of themselves!
captl1: a lesson for my wife
chattels: 6. pride costs us more than hunger, thirst and cold.
captl1: just his 2 cents worth
chattels: 7. we never repent of having eat[en] too little.
chattels: 8. nothing is troublesome that one does willingly.
chattels: 9. how much pain have cost us the evils which have never happened !
chattels: 10. take things always by their smooth handle.
chattels: 11. think as you please, & so let others, & you will have no disputes.
chattels: 12. when angry, count 10. before you speak; if very angry, 100.
captl1: ‹@chattels› was trying to keep up but cramps!
BOBBY: this should be called 10 lessons for dinar land
chattels: ‹@captl1› you can do Cap's commentary on Jefferson's rules :)
captl1: ‹@chattels› most kids have a hard time counting to ten today much less 100
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› very true. many have good application on this journey
captl1: yes they do
captl1: ref #7: Just give up on belts and go to rope!
BBY: wisdom is timeless,no experation date
chattels: my take / version of " nothing is troublesome that one does willingly." is that it is no burden that which we do gladly. :)
captl1: ‹@chattels› I prefer the lighter side of life but remember " If you say you can't..You won't "
BOBBY: balance in life is essential
captl1: ‹@BOBBY› and much safer
chattels: ‹@captl1› experience can be a " terrible teacher " - it impacts upon our countenance
chattels: we can have the same spirit, but a different demeanor
captl1: ‹@chattels› debatable
captl1: to see one only has to look
chattels: " I see said the blind man. " :)
BOBBY: as I have aged I have tried to turn knowledge into wisdom
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› good point
captl1: perception is probably one of the most undefined words
chattels: all two is not one, eh ?
NearTheSea: ‹@captl1› ‹@chattels› Enjoyed the lessons of life, have a wonderful day!
captl1: The choices we make dictate the life we lead
captl1: Appears Maliki will be a quest of the international court.
chattels: ‹@captl1› I am fond of the quote, “Everything we hear is an opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is a perspective, not the truth.” ― Marcus Aurelius, Meditations
captl1: my name sake
chattels: ‹@captl1› truly ?
captl1: first generation in America
BOBBY: chattels... that quote should be posted on the guru sites
captl1: first name is Aurelio
chattels: arguably he was the last of the " great " Roman emporors
captl1: he was the greatest
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› probably why I have been drawn to it - I have been known to be critical of dinar gurus :)
[08:34:57 AM] captl1: The truley know nothings
BOBBY: sadly most people only know him from the Gladiator movie
chattels: more importantly i try to apply it to my own statements and be self aware
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› please remind me if it appears that i am taking myself too seriously :)
BOBBY: Chattels... its open season on the gurus
captl1: this is true. My family is of royal blood. My mother was to marry a duke of the province of Caserta but married an American GI in world war 2
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› ‹@captl1› what we think that we know is more dangerous than what we know, eh ?
captl1: LOL so true
chattels: ‹@captl1› great love story :)
captl1: With knowledge come wisdom and higher insurance premiums
BOBBY: a little bit of knowledge...
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› indeed
captl1: ‹@chattels› it was . She came to the US and her family disowned her. My father died in 59 and when we went back to Italy my Grandfather wouldn't even speak to us.
chattels: ‹@captl1› how sad and disappointing
captl1: it took 3 months before he would... he was a hard man but my grandmother was an angel.
chattels: family can inflict the cruelest pains
chattels: and give the greatest joys
captl1: that would be in reference to pride
BOBBY: captl1... are you of Italian decent?
chattels: ‹@captl1› pride costs us more than hunger, thirst and cold.
captl1: It is the hardest pill to swallow.
captl1: a very interesting family tree.
chattels: i am also fond of saying, " be careful of the words one speaks today for tomorrow one may have to eat them " :)
chattels: i thought recently and I am reminded this morning of how very pleasant this chat room and it's members are compared to other places that I have been
captl1: ‹@BOBBY› 100% italian
chattels: there is a spirit of tolerance and compassionate diversity amoungst us i think
captl1: called age
chattels: a genuine interest in " the truth "
BOBBY: captl1.. same here... parents right off the boat
chattels: and I have been admin or a moderator at three sites over time
chattels: a member at many others
chattels: my compliments to you all
[captl1: My mother married my father and move to Long Island NY Then they move to Florida where I was born
BOBBY: Chattels. ... l agree... i think most have had there fill of the nonsense
captl1: ‹@chattels› ‹@BOBBY› It is great to just chat and learn. One learns more with their eyes and ears than with their mouth.
Sam: ‹@BOBBY› ‹@captl1› ‹@chattels› GM and yes and amen
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› we may have it wrong yet, but it will be honest error
captl1: ‹@Sam› Good Morning!
BOBBY: speaking of.... anything on the Sterling mess?
Stash: most of the sites I have been on they talk about food or songs or try to find a mate.....GM all
Sam: and the chatting can be done without "?"
] BOBBY: Sam... morning...hope your well
chattels: ‹@captl1› my father liked to say to someone who talked, but could not listen that " you have a speech impediment, you cannot listen / learn " :)
Sam: just lurking waiting to leave and go to the office
chattels: ‹@Stash› i used to joke elsewhere that there should be a " dinar cookbook " :)
Stash: hahahaha right Chattels
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› nothing more on Sterling that I have heard
BOBBY: I wonder what guru will be cashing out this week lol
chattels: ‹@captl1› there is a humorous word coined by the locals in western North Carolina, a retirement community, for those that originated in the northeast, moved to Florida and then to western North Carolina. They call them " half - backs " because they had moved half way back to where they came from :)
BOBBY: Chattels. .. lol
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