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chattels: "the Council of Ministers defended the Prime Minister option, and we explained the reasons for this, namely, that the prime minister will be free to choose between the survival of the situation for what it is, or to provide his resignation and therefore the government considered resigned and turned to the caretaker government, or to take this step which is much better than any other option. "
Doug_W: what in life IS "C" ?
chattels: : "The question now is, do these measures will lead to the achievement of the aspirations of our people or to start the movement of successive reforms, meet at least, in finish with the reasons that launched this movement, according to the religious authority directives and demands of the masses,
and the answer is yes, but the conditions, these steps will launch the movement and momentum must Asttmra positive for maximum border responses to the events of reforms beyond the things formalism, to go to the essential things. "
He stressed that "the country needs to legislative reforms unite reference laws and the philosophy of the state, based on the constitutional principles that been asked of our people on them, but the Constitution may require adjustments to take into account the past years lessons advantages and disadvantages. "
GJMAN: ‹@Doug_W› because the launch of a new CBI website could be launched with the new Rate
chattels: " ......... the Constitution may require adjustments ................ "
[Doug_W: ‹@GJMAN› ty
chattels: I believe that what is revealed here is that Abadi had a choice / option to dissolve his government and enter into a caretaker government awaiting new elections or to take the path of reform which has some attendant constitutional issues. We shall see what the next thirty days bring for Iraq and us.
MichelleL: ‹@GJMAN› :grin:
GJMAN: I am hoping anywaay
chattels: This is " unplowed ground " for Iraq.
MichelleL: Thank you chattels. Everyone have a good morning, have to run :) remember my number when they push the button please, I'll buy filet mignon instead of chopped chuck ;)
chattels: : We all see through a glass darkly, we do not have all the facts and our perspective is clouded by many things. What they want us to hear / see and what we want to hear and believe.
Doug_W: saw bacon wrapped fillet 3.99 a pound yesterday
chattels: duty calls for me as well. laterz all.
Doug_W: www.zayconfresh.com/produ... https://www.zayconfresh.com/products/pork/bacon-wrapped-pork-fillet
we just got 40# of 93% hmbg from them
Winnerdinar: Jubouri calls for the adoption of the amnesty law within the government reforms package Jubouri calls for the adoption of the amnesty law within the government reforms package Author:
Publisheron:August 12, 2015In: PoliticsViews: 51 views BAGHDAD / Center Brief for the Iraqi Media Network ( IMN ) - House Speaker Salim al-Jubouri called on stakeholders to interact with the general amnesty law passed under the direction of reforms phase package and achieve comprehensive national reconciliation, adding that the parliamentary legal committee to provide a thorough study on the law graduated from the neck bottle.
And between the parliamentary legal committee member Sadeq Saleh earlier, that the members of the Committee are still different on the three key points to the draft general amnesty law is a paragraph related to Article IV of the fight against terrorism and forgers of certificates and documents and accused of financial and administrative corruption law .
Jubouri said in a seminar promised parliamentary legal committee on the amnesty law and attended by the Bar Association and civil society organizations that "the philosophy of the amnesty law is not deliberate to encroach upon the rights of those affected, but a new phase for the industry is able to impose broader concepts."
He continued that "the law is a step to compensate affected market compensation and legal considerations for the damage they have suffered as a result of past mistakes," explaining that "the interlocutors to provide a thorough study on the law take us out of the bottleneck."
And prepare a draft of the amnesty law and one of the main points in the paper that formed the Intergovernmental Agreement on the basis of the current government headed by Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi end of last year with the participation of all political parties .
And the voice of the Council of Ministers last May on the draft of the amnesty law and decided to transmit it to the House of Representatives, while the Union forces made a mass protest at the draft
newbieDA: ‹@Winnerdinar› I like that article
newbieDA: here is some good news I found
newbieDA: Select the House of Representatives read the laws and voting upon the duration not to exceed 28 days. According to a parliamentary source said the "parliamentary reforms approved by the House of Representatives in its day package included to speed up the completion of proposals and draft laws,
including speed up the provision of services to citizens and adopt the mechanism of the initiative in the first reading after submission and then referral to parliamentary committees and included the second reading during a period not exceeding for 14 days. "
"It also stressed that the vote on the proposal or the draft law within a period not exceeding 14 days from the date of the second reading." : and CBI News & Announcements To / approved all banks ( to suspend trading in dollars ) 08/11/2015
Dianne777: when is the 2nd reading?
newbieDA: ‹@Dianne777› this is for all laws, package included to speed up the completion of proposals and draft laws
newbieDA: ‹@Dianne777› the reform package is in place, no 2nd reading needed
whitelions: Hi all is there anybody in here that has time to see if they can translate a pdf file this came ont on the cbi site today but I can't get it to translate OOTW is really good at it but she is not here yet so i'll put it in here and see what happens .thank you so much in advance if you can
whitelions: cbi News & Announcements To / approved all banks ( to suspend trading in dollars ) 08/11/2015 www.cbi.iq/documents/Anno... www.cbi.iq/
newbieDA: ‹@whitelions› ya a translation would be nice
whitelions: I won't have the time until late this afternoon
whitelions: and I'm not as good as Deb but she is out today and OOTW is not in yet
newbieDA: ‹@whitelions› np, I take it in stride
chattels: ‹@whitelions› Donnie may be able to translate it
chattels: Caveat regarding the reform package. There are constitutional issues which may or may not be problematic.
chattels: Baghdad (AIN) –The commission of Integrity uncovered on Wednesday that top officials who have corrupted allegations ran away.
chattels: en.alliraqnews.com/module... http://en.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2639
chattels: Baghdad (AIN) –The parliament adjourned its today session to next Thursday.
chattels: en.alliraqnews.com/module... http://en.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2622
Donnie: He presided over a panel discussion to discuss the amnesty law President of the Parliament: Access to reconciliation is not only by arch general amnesty, which pave the way for the integration of everyone in the historical settlement initiative August 12 0.2015
chattels: Baghdad (AIN) –The second phase of the campaign to liberate Ramadi city from the control of the ISIL terrorist group has begun today Wednesday, Defense Minister Khalid al-Obaidi said .
Donnie: www.parliament.iq/details... http://www.parliament.iq/details.aspx?id=48951&Alw
Fit2beFit: European Association of Iraqi Freedom 'Maliki should be tried' demand European Iraqi Freedom Foundation (EIF) is claiming that Maliki committed "crimes outside Humanity is literally descended, torture, murder and corruption" because the prosecution wanted.
Fit2beFit: translate.google.com/tran... LINK
sczin11: Thread Modes AUGUST 12, 2015... THE "NEW IRAQI DINAR"
[10:29:22 AM] sczin11: FOR A WHILE, AND TRYING TO KEEP UP WITH ALL THAT IS GOUNG ON...AFTER READING THE PRINT, AND THE OPINIONS IN THE LAST 24 HOURS, I FELT THE NECESSITY TO OPINE..
FOLKS, THE IRAQI DINAR IS A CURRENCY, BEING USED TODAY, IN IRAQ, AND SOON TO BE ACCEPTED GLOBALLY...IT IS LEGAL TENDER... IT IS NOT MONOPOLY MONEY...
THE NEWLY PRINTED AND DESIGNED CURRENCY, THAT STARTED TO BE RELEASED, MID LAST YEAR, IS CONSIDERED ONE OF THE MOST SECURE IN THE WORLD, IF NOT THE MOST SECURE..
THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A CURRENCY IN COUNTRY ONLY, WITH AN ALTERNATIVE CURRENCY FOR OUTSIDE..WHO DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO?
WHEN ONE TRAVELS ABROAD, THERE ARE CURRENCY EXCHANGERS AT AIRPORTS, AND THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY YOU ARE VISITING, AS WELL AS IN MOST CASES, BANKS RIGHT HERE IN THE USA, THAT AFFORD THE CONVENIENCE AND LUXURY, TO PROVIDE YOU WITH THE LOCALLY USED CURRENCY, FOR A COMMISSION/FEE..
IT IS NO DIFFERENT, THAN SOMEONE FROM THE MIDDLE EAST, COMING TO THE USA FOR A VACATION..CAN THEY GO TO YOUR LOCAL DUNKIN DONUTS, AND PAY WITH THEIR HOMETOWN CURRENCY?
CAN U IMAGINE A DUNKIN DONUTS EMPLOYEE ACCEPTING A DINAR NOTE, AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT THE CHANGE DUE YOU?
WHEN NOTES ARE REMOVED FROM CIRCULATION, THERE MUST BE A PERIOD OF TIME OFFERED TO EXCHANGE CURRENTLY USED CURRENCY, FOR WHAT IS AVAILABLE IN THAT COUNTRY...
THE INTERNATIONAL AGENCIES WOULDNT ACCEPT ANYTHING LESS...
DO YOU THINK THE MANY COVERT AGENCIES IN THE WORLD, WHO EMPLOY LOCALS FOR INTELLIGENCE , DONT OWN RESPECTIVE LOCAL CURRENCIES FOR THEIR OWN PAYROLL NEEDS?
THEY WOULD BE HURT HARD FINANCIALLY, IF COUNTRIES COULD AT THEIR WHIM, REMOVE A PARTICULAR NOTE FROM CIRCULATION AND VALUE, WITHOUT NOTIFICATION OF SUCH TO BE OCCURING...
sczin11: EVEN WITH THE 50 NOTE, THAT WAS REMIVED EARLY THIS YEAR, A NOTE WITH VIRTUALLY NO TRADING VALUE, A NOTE BARELY IF EVER USED IN TODAYS IRAQI ECONOMY, THERE WAS 2 MONTHS TO EXCHANGE...
IRAQ IS GOING THROUGH THE MAJOR ER AND MR THAT ABADI HAS PROMISED THE PEOPLE WOULD TAKE PLACE,..
I BELIEVE HE WAS EXPECTING ALL THIS TO BEGIN BACK IN JUNE...ESPECIALLY AFTER MAKING NUMEROUS ANNOUNCEMENTS REGARDING SAME.
.AND DONT FORGET ABADI SPEACH TO THE WORLD, BACK IN JANUARY FROM DAVOS... ""IRAQ IS OPEN FOR BUSINESS".....
WE ARE EXPERIENCING HISTORIC WORLD EVENTS, RIGHT HERE IN IRAQ....
WE ARE SEEING AN ENTIRE NATION, WAKE UP TO THE REALITY OF TODAY...
NO MORE BEHIND THE TIMES...NO MORE LAGGING WITH CURRENT DAYS TECHNOLOGIES AND INTERNATIONAL PROTOCOLS...
ALL THESE ISSUES HAVE BEEN METICULOUSLY WORKED ON AND ARE NOW BEING IMPLEMENTED, AND ACTIVATED...
AND WHEN ALL IS SAID AND DONE, IRAQ WILL EMERGE AS THE POWER HOUSE OF THE MIDDLE EAST,
A SOVEREIGN DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY, WHERE THE PEOPLE, ALL THE PEOPLE, WILL BE GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES TO SURVIVE AND THRIVE!
sczin11: wealthwatch.world/showthr.. http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=1662
Donnie: The economic and investment commission discussed the amendments to the Iraqi Investment Law August 12 0.2015
Donnie: The economic and investment commission headed by MP held Jawad al- Chairman of the Committee and in the presence of members of the committee meeting on Wednesday, 12/8/2015 to discuss the final notes of the second amendment to the Iraqi Investment Law No. (13) of 2006.
The Chairman of the Committee said that the observations made during the enlarged meeting of the Investment Committee and was attended by representatives of the departments in the ministries and government agencies, as well as a number of meetings with the private sector.
He said the Attorney-Bolani had been reached legal texts would activate the investment sector in ministries that rely mainly financed by the general budget, pointing out that the amendments will be responsive to the ambitious domestic and foreign private sector.
Donnie: www.parliament.iq/details... http://www.parliament.iq/details.aspx?id=48960&Alw
chattels: Baghdad (AIN) –Parliament will vote on prominent laws including Parties, Labor and Treaties law drafts during its next Thursday session, according to a statement by Speakership.
chattels: en.alliraqnews.com/module... http://en.alliraqnews.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=2645
Donnie: So far there are 6 laws up for vote in tomorrow's Parliament session : www.parliament.iq/details... http://www.parliament.iq/details.aspx?EvID=18266
Fit2beFit: Attorney-Maliki: three measures to assess the national economy instead of import
Fit2beFit: Abadi directed to prevent the defendants of stealing public money to travel and bring them to eliminate
Fit2beFit: Date 11/8 form a nightmare for Al-Maliki. Removed it twice and with whom!
Fit2beFit: Iraqi journalist addressed Abadi: own guides and documents condemning the four Vice-Presidents of the family of Al-Maliki confidant
Fit2beFit: Maliki loses lawsuit against him
Fit2beFit: Maliki loses lawsuit against him
Fit2beFit: translate.google.com/tran... LINK
whitelions: ‹@Fit2beFit› I just read the article and did not really understand it what do you think it means?
whitelions: Profit Kurdistan Region President election body, the High Commission for Elections in Iraq, which is able to get him away Nuri al-Maliki from office, filed his lawsuit against the latter when he was prime minister.
And deported Independent Electoral Commission, based on the book No. 331 issued on (19.01.2014) the decision of the then Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, Ali is able from his post as President of the Kurdistan Regional Authority elections, which the last payment to file a lawsuit against al-Maliki.
In this regard, unable said in a statement that the Supreme Court of the Executive in Iraq, and after the investigation in the file, issued a decision in his favor, and replaced the decision of the al-Maliki, allowing him to be after about a year and eight months, to return to his previous position.
He added that after settle the matter in court, "the Electoral Commission for elections in Iraq decided to go back to the positions starting from the ninth of this August."
whitelions: or anybody
Tootsie: maybe you should run through Bing translator = go to article, click on original (r/h top) copy the Arabic to Bing and translate - IMO not a concern for us.
whitelions: is it saying that Maliki dose not have the right to file a law suite against the GOV to take back his seat as PM of iraq
whitelions: ‹@Tootsie› I did it came out the same
Tootsie: Iraqi politicians have no where to flee to ~ this is an op/ed, but good read - here is the primary for me ~ If Mr. Al-Abadi’s move does indeed succeed, then I can only see great potential and future for Iraq.
What I mean is that Iraq will indeed attract real foreign investment on the near future because foreign companies will be at ease doing business with honest government.
Not only Al-Abadi is sacking the corrupt, but he is also removing the unqualified personnel and replacing them with qualified and educated individuals that understand how to govern and do honest business. ~~ article here wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=1665
Tootsie: ‹@whitelions› hmm, ~
Tootsie: BING Roodao-Erbil Won chief elections in Kurdistan, of the higher Commission of elections in Iraq, unable to say which Nuri al-Maliki on his claim against the latter when he was Prime Minister. And the independent High Electoral Commission, based on the book no. 133 issued at (19/1/2014) by resolution of the then Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, is capable of from his post as President of the Kurdistan regional elections body, prompting the latter to file a lawsuit against Al-Maliki.
In this regard, he is capable of in a statement that Iraq's Supreme executive court, after investigation, issued a decision in its favour, the decision by Al-Maliki to allow him after about a year and eight months, to return to his former position.
He said that after resolving the matter in court, "decided the independent High Electoral Commission of Iraq to go back to my post from August 9. - this is an old case, not restoring M to PM. ~ suit by Kurd against M, long ago, ~
Tootsie: Iran is massing troops near the border of the territory of KurdistanWednesday, 12 August 2015 14:51 SulaymaniyahIranian Kurdish official, on Wednesday revealed that Iranian forces began massing in the region close to the border areas of Kurdistan , as he emphasized Kurdish forces ready to counter any attacks.
An official relations free and democratic society system in eastern Kurdistan Arvin Ahmadi Port in an interview with Alsumaria News , said that "Iran began lining its troops in the regions of Khai and Sardasht are close to the borders of the Kurdistan region,
"noting that" those forces estimated at more than twenty thousand troops equipped with heavy weapons and sophisticated. " con't ~~ wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=1664
Lauren305: ‹@Tootsie› ‹@whitelions› I'm reading and interpreting that article as stating the Supreme Executive Court ruled in favor of the Kurd gentleman, allowing him after 1 yr and 8 months to return to his post, from which Maliki removed him. Head of Electoral Commission is the post he held.
Upon being removed by Maliki, the gentleman sued and has now won the case, returning to the post from which he had been removed. At least that's my take on it.. Feedback appreciated and welcomed
Tootsie: color test -
Tootsie: ‹@Lauren305› yes, me also
Tootsie: kinda glad he won! hehehe
Tootsie: Abadi , head to China next weekWednesday, 12 August 2015 14:31BaghdadDetection Office of the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi, Wednesday, that the latter will travel to China at the head of a senior government delegation, to discuss ways of security and military cooperation and the role of Chinese companies in the investment sector.
A spokesman for the Office Saad al-Hadithi in an interview with Alsumaria News, "Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi on Wednesday will be the next day on the 19th of this August, a visit to China, at the head of a high-level government delegation," noting that "the visit will last three days."
He added that the newborn "The aim of the visit is to develop relations between the two countries and discussed ways of security and military cooperation to strengthen the capacity of Iraq's military,
as well as discuss China's efforts at the international level with regard to fighting terrorism and drain its resources. " Sabri said that "al-Abadi will discuss during the visit, also the role of Chinese companies in the investment sector in Iraq,"
noting that "Iraq is looking forward because there is an active and influential role for major Chinese companies in the oil, electricity and other service sectors."
Iraq seeks to strengthen its relations with the countries of the world and specifically the regional surroundings, particularly a fierce fighting a battle against al "Daash", as Abadi stressed on more than one occasion Iraq's keenness on building good-neighborly relations with the countries of the region and the world. wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=1663
Lauren305: ‹@Tootsie› at this stage of the game, anyone siding or backing Maliki can only be classed a "fool", in the nicest terms..
Lauren305: Here's something I need help understanding.... Hope you can lend a hand...
Tootsie: Next week .. Integrity Commission opens Ukrainian and Russian arms deals Files ~ BAGHDAD / JD / .. announced to the Parliamentary Integrity Committee to open the files of corruption next week, as pointed out that the most prominent of these files Ukrainian and Russian arms deals.
A member of the Integrity Committee MP Aqeel Al-Zubaidi said in a statement / dinars / received a copy of it: that his committee will start in the next week to re-open corruption swi Maitalq deals including Ukrainian and Russian arms, stressing return the money wasted in these files. .
He said al-Zubaidi: The billions of dollars have been wasted because of ill-considered and exceptions wrong policies granted to the committees that oversaw the implementation of contracts away from private contractual Zawabott. Zubaidi said that his committee will receive any information indicating that supports the investigation and speed up the completion of projects that tarry implemented or not implemented according to the specifications, including the Ministry of Electricity and contracts for projects in other ministries.
The MP Aqeel Al-Zubaidi on the need to hold accountable those who tampered with the money and contributed to the increasing suffering of the citizens away from political and sectarian affiliation, adding that all Maehmna is working to create a suitable and good opportunities for citizens and provide basic services to him. / / 22/ / End / wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=1661
Tootsie: ‹@Lauren305› Best comment of the darned day!!!