Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 8-2-15
Wealthwatch Morning Chat 8-2-15
chattels: [Baghdad-where] reported statistic conducted by the agency all of Iraq [where] based on official data from the Ministry of Oil Federal that Iraq's imports of crude oil exports -abbar [SOMO] Aloutnah- in the first half of the year 2015 amounted to only $ 25 billion, despite export more than half a billion barrels of crude during the same period.
Iraqi state and relies on building the annual financial budget by about 90% on imports of oil exported but the decline in crude prices since the middle of last year has led to a significant decline in Iraq's resources within its annual budget amounting in 2015 to $ 100 billion with a deficit reached 25%, prompting government to external borrowing to meet the deficit.
chattels: Hillary Clinton, who is seeking the Democratic nomination for the US presidential elections and her husband, former President Bill Clinton came close to $ 140 million during the last eight years, announced which provides evidence for the great wealth they received.
BOBBY: Chattels. .. did you see Kaps post on dinar guru?
chattels: ‹@BOBBY› read Kap, yes
Tootsie: GE ~ what is the current dirt on dinarcorp? I can still access their site, don't have a clue why, hahah - called their 888# and it answered, with the recorded msg, press 1, etc
BOBBY: Tootsie.... last i heard nothing has changed.... site taken over by feds ,etc.
BOBBY: i am sure somthing more will be said
Tootsie: undoubtedly ~ yes, so curious I am however.
BOBBY: everybody is....... did you do business with them?
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› no, never. Had a person on site that turned back a very large amount of dinar - horrid story - I and site owner etc got involved. Needless to say, mess ~~ took over mo to settle. May be a unique circumstance, who knows, but nope,
Tootsie: but, don't send someone a fedex # and not follow through
Tootsie: may have been a huge BOO BOO who knows
BOBBY: Tootsie.... i placed a small order with them to try them out..... took over a month to deliver
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› oh my, well, this person turned in a major $$ amount - major
Tootsie: mid 5 figure
Tootsie: better phrase quarter of 6 figure hahaha
BOBBY: i wanted to try them and see how they were , did not care for them
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› well, having known a person that met them in their auto for 1st transaction and then had trouble finding their location for 2nd purchase (back of warehouse area) I decided not for ME - but then I presume they grew and have/had great offices, or so I read
BOBBY: Tootsie... were they in Hammond Indiana?
Tootsie: XX & Lamborghini went to their new offices, was short time after that appeared on BGG site
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› no, just outside Chicago
BOBBY: If they were doing anything i
BOBBY: wrong i am glad
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› you are funny!
BOBBY: they got shut down
Tootsie: ‹@BOBBY› wish could find out more info, other than what I read at another site - hopefully it wil come out. I am still wondering why site taken over by feds, ?monitoring?
BOBBY: Tootsie...... I am sure more will be forthcoming
MichelleL: hello friends - seems I've missed a lot of doo doo going on today
nobody: Let's all be rich tomorrow
Dianne777: is that a possibility
Donnie: anything is possible in this crazy endeavor.
revenuerog: Hey ya'll....just FYI....I have NO PROBLEM getting on DC website....AND I placed an order today...
Donnie: ‹@revenuerog› i just tried and no go.
Donnie: post the link here that you are using now.
revenuerog: www.dinarcorp.com/ I'm on it right now
revenuerog: Did ya get on?
chattels: i am getting webpage not available
revenuerog: hmmmm I've NEVER had a problem
revenuerog: I'm thinking your problem is a poor connection
tipsyterror: not sure I really want to, with it using the FBI nameservers.
Donnie: once i cleared my cookies and opened a new browser it stopped working yesterday
tipsyterror: even with a gigabit internet connection, no go for me.
revenuerog: I'm no computer geek....but I'm having no problem
Donnie: ‹@revenuerog› do you live in Indiana?
revenuerog: nashville, tn
chattels: why take a chance with dinarcorp ? if you want to buy then one can still buy from SafeDinar i think
tipsyterror: a few like me still have reserves there...
Donnie: ‹@chattels› I'm reading that these $2 million bonds are internal and not international. Is that what you're finding or not?
Donnie: Bearer bonds are bonds that are owned by whoever is holding them, rather than having registered owners like most other securities.
Like most other bonds, they have a stated maturity date and interest rate, but coupons representing interest payments are generally physically attached to the security and must be submitted to the company for payment.
In this way, bearer bonds are different from most other bonds, which aren't physically issued anymore, but instead exist on the computerized records of brokers and custodians.
Donnie: can be used for:
Donnie: Criminal Uses of Bearer Bonds As mentioned, bearer bonds have historically been the financial instrument of choice for money launderers, tax evaders and those just generally trying to conceal business transactions.
Donnie: If the laws pass, and the flood gates open up, investors come in, investment comes through the Capital Account of the CBI, the dinar will rise. When and how fast is relative to that event
tipsyterror: ‹@Donnie› I agree, but that sounded a lot like what Kaperoni just said. :)
Donnie: ‹@tipsyterror› it is what he just said
Donnie: but that's general knowledge and I won't post his specific recommendations here
Donnie: i'm pretty sure Kap can come in here if he wants to.
BOBBY: Donnie.... i wish he would..... i would love to ask him some questions
Donnie: ‹@chattels› i'm trying to NOT cause trouble in here but sometimes I just have to post things I read.... lol
chattels: ‹@Donnie› my understanding was that the bonds were international, but i am a macroeconomic moron
chattels: ‹@Donnie› no trouble, questioning is the beginning of wisdom
chattels: ‹@Donnie› i just do not have a wise or informed answer :)
chattels: Kap is well informed generally i think, but ...................
chattels: none of us know what will happen and to my knowledge Kap has not been proven wrong about his theories
Donnie: Kap's prediction is as good as anyone else until proven wrong.
chattels: we have all been in error about interim matters
tipsyterror: but boy I sure do hope he is wrong about this slow float thing...
Donnie: I love it when recaps tweets WealthWatch chat right after millionday chat lol
chattels: is " XXXX" still saying that the tariffs only apply to exports ? :)
Donnie: all i read earlier were people stating/complaining that XXXX said the tariffs were only on exports - after the articles came out stating the tariffs are on imports and exports. I'd like to read how she wiggled out of that one.
Donnie: Ladies, if a man says he will fix it he will. There is no need to pester him about it every 6 months
Donnie: THE SENILITY PRAYER: Grant me the senility to forget the people I never liked anyway, The good fortune to run into the ones I do, and the eyesight to tell the difference.
Donnie: A man and his wife were sitting on a pier. Wife was drinking a glass of wine. All of a sudden she said, I love you so much. He said is that you talking or the wine. She said that is me talking to the wine.
Donnie: those are from Sabickford
Donnie: i figured a little humor to go with that night cap or glass of wine before bed.
Donnie: OK one more
Donnie: A quiet man is a thinking man. A quite woman is usually MAD.
chattels: loved the man and wife on the pier with wine - In Vino Veritas
chattels: ‹@Donnie› a little knowledge is a dangerous thing :)
chattels: We shall see what fate has in store for us. Godspeed the completion of the Iraqi banking sector reform project. God bless us every one.
chattels: 7-31-2015 Kaperoni Article "Parliamentary committee: the government agreed to transfer the powers of eight ministries to the provinces" ...Council of Representatives, for the federal government approval for the transfer of the powers of eight ministries of service to the provinces, next Sunday." This seems like a pretty big deal and it is happening Sunday.
Winnerdinar: ‹@chattels› it's Sunday now in the UK woo hoo
Winnerdinar: And it's Sunday in Baghdad by two hours from my time
Winnerdinar: I'm giddy this am
faith: So can someone explain the significance of the tariffs and how it affects the value of the dinar?
Winnerdinar: ‹@faith› I think sczin11 or OOTW or chattels when they are about may be able to help
Winnerdinar: From what I know the tarriffs will increase the prices of good in Iraq - so purshasing power reduces - therefore the logical thing would be to increase the value of the dinar- don't take what I say as fact
Winnerdinar: I'm no expert
faith: And to you. So why are you giddy this morning?
Winnerdinar: A lot of reasons but the events that are playing out lead me to believe when I think the event we are looking for is on course. I won't say my prediction But it's not this year
Winnerdinar: I think so Around spring
faith: I do too...but time will tell.
Winnerdinar: I'm watching OOTW work closely on the laws. I think we will see some major ones finally passed -- WTO is the final hurdle in my own simple opinion
faith: Looking for the distribution of the new 50K and 100 K notes, also.
Winnerdinar: Suppose to be within days for the 50k
Winnerdinar: Sorry I'm at work so I'm in and out when I can
faith: No problem. 2:54 a.m here...so off to bed I go. Stay giddy! :grin:
Winnerdinar: Have a great sleep faith
sczin11: GOOOOOOOD MORNING EVERYBODY....HOPE ALL ARE WELL
sczin11: IN RESPONSE TO MALIKIS COMMENTS...Iraqi cleric calls for the internationalization of Iraq and Iran to get rid of dependency
sczin11: Iraqi Shiite op student Mahmoud al-Hassani Sarkhi, his office said in a statement on its website, the United Nations to internationalize the Iraqi issue to get rid of Iranian interference in Iraq and a decision in this regard and directed by Iran of his country.
Sarkhi and explain his opinion to resolve the Iraq crisis within the initiative entitled "salvation project", where he called tribal leaders, politicians and academics inside and outside Iraq, to activate the initiative and practical project to save the country.
And between Sarkhi response to a request his opinion by the families of al-Anbar, Mosul and Salah al-Din, to save Iraq must be through the "salvation project" prepared, consisting of 11 items the most important for the United Nations to adopt the affairs of Iraq officially solving current government and parliament and the formation of the salvation of a national government runs temporarily country whose members are professionals from non-current corrupt and losers and away from the external political and sectarian links, he said.
sczin11: He also appealed to the United Nations to issue a clear and explicit and strongly worded resolution demanding Iran permanently out of the game in Iraq, where Iran is the occupier and intervenor fiercest in Iraq, with the removal of militias loyal to her about the affairs of government in Baghdad.
sczin11: READ WHOLE STORY wealthwatch.world/showthr...
sczin11: REMEMBER IN THAT PART OF THE WORKD, THE WORDS OF RELIGIOUS LEADERS, ARE TAKEN VERY SERIOUS..
Winnerdinar: Sczin11 I just found this on Maliki
Winnerdinar: Supreme Council refuses to Maliki's coalition candidate for the presidency of the National Alliance
Winnerdinar: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=1479
sczin11: ‹@Winnerdinar› NICE...READ SIMILAR VERSION FROM ANOTHER SOURCE
Winnerdinar: Bye for now back to work I have to go
sczin11: TARIFFS ACROSS ALL BORDERS... Parliamentary Finance COMMITTEE STATES
sczin11: Parliamentary Finance describes the tow through the application of the customs tariff system details
sczin11: Sunday August 2, 2015 - 15:09
sczin11: He said a member of the parliamentary finance committee Masood Haider that the application of the customs tariff system for food and goods will be in the light of the budget law for 2015 will also be the imposition of taxes on airline tickets, cars and mobile phone companies to increase fiscal revenue of the country.
He explained Haider Radio Marbad that the taxes that will be imposed on the mobile phone companies are selling taxes, not buy and this means no passport Download tax rate of those on the citizen by phone companies,
noting that the Finance Committee will discuss this issue during its meeting on Sunday and define the steps that must be taken in this regard as well as the vote in the Committee to send a book
calling for the central government and the Finance Ministry to compel mobile phone companies to bear the tax imposed on them and not to increase the packing Kartat rates,
in addition to the claim to host the Minister of Finance by the Commission. Haider that also noted the application of customs and tax system will cover all border crossings in the country, without exception,
pointing to resolve the differences that existed between the central government and the Kurdistan region on this subject and to reach an agreement between the parties requires the application of the tariff system in all ports and confirmation of the provincial government on commitment so.
With regard to the imposition of taxes on airline tickets and cars between member parliamentary Finance Committee that deal with this topic it is up to the Ministry of Finance and the central government on the part of determining the amount of tax borne by the citizen and the portion borne by the biggest companies.
sczin11: wealthwatch.world/showthr... http://wealthwatch.world/showthread.php?tid=1480
sczin11: ‹@plowboy› I AM VERY CONFIDENT THERE MUST BE A RATE CHANGE IN A FAIRLY SHORT ORDER,
ASSUMING CUSTOMS AND TARIFFS REMAIN IN EFFECT...
IT IS NOT GOING TO HELP THE REDUCTION OF BUDGET DEFICIT, NOR THE COUNTRY'S LIQUIDITY IF TRUCKS STAGE SIT INS AT THE BORDERS, CAUSE THE IMPORTERS WONT PAY THE TAXES DUE,
SINCE THE CITIZEN CANT BUY THE PRODUCTS AT CURRENT COSTS, AND CERTAINLY CANT AFFORD THEM AT HIGHER COSTS, WHICH IS THE RESULT NOW,
WITHOUT INCREASE IN PYRCHASING POWER, THUS THE LOWER COST TO THE CONSUMER
chattels: GOOD MORNING ALL
chattels: ‹@sczin11› " SOMEONE " STATED THAT THE TARIFFS WERE ONLY ON EXPORTS. IS THAT TRUE ? :)
chattels: I HAVE SOME VERY LIMITED NEWS ABOUT DINARCORP
chattels: POSTED IN THE FORUM THREAD AT wealthwatch.world/showthr...
chattels: A home in the 300 block of Whatley Drive in Dothan was the target Wednesday of an apparent search by the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Agents wearing shirts identifying them as computer experts could be seen entering and exiting the residence.
chattels: The FBI declined to discuss the reason for the search and it’s not known if it is related to a company that the residents of the home appear to have been involved.
There is also no indication if the search is related to a dismissed state lawsuit that involved a hold put on a banking account because of what a credit union calls a questionable international funds transfer.
Houston County records show the home is owned by Theodore and Starla Hudson. Alabama Secretary of State documents show the couple recently dissolved an incorporated business, MyMonex, several months after a lawsuit filed against it by Five Star Credit Union was settled.
The suit alleged that a large number of money orders were deposited into a Five Star Credit Union account belonging to the Hudsons beginning in late 2013, about the time documents show the company was incorporated.
The credit union, according to court filings, placed a hold on the account because a “large” amount of funds wired one international recipient.
chattels: Also named in the lawsuit was Husam Tayeh who, according to the website WikiBusiness, is president, secretary, treasurer, and director of MyMonex, based in Nevada.
A law enforcement source, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said that the search in Dothan is related to a nationwide investigation. The source would not elaborate.
chattels: Neither the Hudsons nor Tayeh appear to have been accused of wrongdoing at this time. There’s no indication that they have been implicated in any illegal action. www.wtvy.com/home/headlin...
plowboy: ‹@sczin11› thanks, I needed that
[08:57:47 AM] chattels: www.wtvy.com/home/headlin...
sczin11: ‹@chattels› VERY INTERSTING....
UNEEK: ‹@chattels› wow "nationwide" investigation
MichelleL: oh well, another bloodbath I see - good morning friends
MichelleL: any truth that abadi siezed m's plane? or was it siezed by the fbi lol lol
chattels: BAGHDAD / Nina / accused the MP for the Civic Democratic Alliance high-mass Sheikh Ali, former Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki of squandering $ 27 billion were intended to address the power crisis in the country. He said in a press conference today that "al-Maliki responsible for squandering $ 27 billion has been dedicated to improving the file electric power during his presidency three successive governments for two consecutive terms and the government of caretaker. " ‘
He added that the "only one responsible for the deterioration of the electric power is al-Maliki, and not the current Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi or electricity minister in the current selection Qassim Fahdawi."
MichelleL: chattels, any responsibility for former customers who received goods to participate in any of this junk if asked (sterling, DC etc)?
chattels: " ........... restore 27 billion fudged that al-Maliki to the state treasury, ............. "
chattels: " FUDGED ", NOW THAT IS AN INTERESTING TRANSLATION :)
MichelleL: lol chattels - sort of says a lot about many
chattels: ‹@MichelleL› I DO NOT UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION, SAY MORE PLEASE ?
MichelleL: sure chattels, lets say you were an outright customer, paid your money and got your currency, do you have any responsibility to discuss the transaction if asked?
chattels: ‹@MichelleL› ASKED BY WHOM ?
MichelleL: authorities chattels
MichelleL: if for instance, we receive an email asking for information, must we respond? I've been burned by a ponzi or two in the past online and the investigations are ongoing for years
chattels: MAYBE. THERE IS " MISPRISON OF A FELONY " AND " OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE " AND THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT ". bALANCING THOSE PRECEPTS CAN BE " TRICKY "
MichelleL: what is a misprison of a felony?
chattels: ‹@MichelleL› EMAILS ASKING FOR INFO ARE NOT " AUTHORITIES "
MichelleL: and wouldn't they contact me at my home, rather than in email?
MichelleL: thats what I thought, thanks chattels :)
chattels: Misprision of felony was an offence under the common law of England and was classified as a misdemeanour. It consisted of failing to report knowledge of a felony to the appropriate authorities.
MichelleL: thanks chattels - if goods were delivered for payment, I don't see any felony