Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 8-9-15
Wealthwatch Night Chat With Butifldrm 8-9-15
Abraham: Increased troops are being sent to Iraq! I am sure they have a mission
chattels: Sajad Jiyad @SajadJiyad 11h11 hours ago Sajad Jiyad retweeted Speaker Jibouri confirms that his deputies will be removed (positions dissolved) and allowances for MPs reduced
sczin11: SOMEBODY TRANSLATE THIS FOR US..N BRING IT IN
sczin11: I BELUEVE ONCE U TRANSLATE THIS YOU WILL SEE REPORT THAT THE REFORMS BY ABADI WILL SAVE 30 Trillion dinar..more than enuff to meet the budget deficit translate.googleuserconte...
Donnie: In the parliamentary finance committee member said the payoff reforms issued by the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi will provide to the state treasury amounts of up to 30 trillion dinars. "
He said Faleh in force, a coalition of citizen in a statement that the "special expenses to cover the salaries volume during the first quarter amounted to 41 trillion dinars."
He explained that "the measures taken by the Prime Minister, which will reduce these expenses to 11 trillion dinars, which will reflect positively on the provision of services citizens."
The Cabinet has approved the emergency meeting today on the major repairs made by the Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi meet the directives of the Supreme religious authority and demonstrators package.
Donnie: Included reforms Abadi, comprehensive and immediate reduction in the preparation of protections for all state officials Dmenhm heads of the three presidencies, ministers, MPs and special grades and general managers and governors and members of the provincial councils and their grades, and the abolition of the special provisions for each presidencies bodies and state institutions and retirees of them according to instructions issued by the Prime Minister to take into account the justice and professional and competence.
The Prime Minister also face reduction of expenses and the abolition of positions of major Congress of the Republic and the Council of Ministers immediately and open previous files of corruption and the current under the supervision of a supreme committee to combat corruption is made up of specialists and working principle [Where did you get this, and to invite the judiciary to adopt a number of specialists judges known integrity full investigation and prosecute corrupt.
Donnie: A member of the parliamentary finance committee Faleh in force: Abadi reforms will provide 30 trillion dinars to the state treasury www.faceiraq.com/inews.ph...
Donnie: so lets see--- 41 - 11 = 30
chattels: ‹@sczin11› not enough to balance budget if oil stays below $ 56 / barrel
disciple7: STEELERS receive in 3 2 1..
disciple7: Out of bounds.. :laughing:
sczin11: ‹@Donnie› CAN U BRING TITLE IN TRANSLATED PLEASE THE LINK IS IN ARABIC FOR MY SILLY PAD
sczin11: ‹@chattels› THEY ARE NOT WORKING WITH ANY AMOUNT LESS THAN 56 ...AVG USED FOR BUDGET YEAR..WAT AB DAYS IT WAS IVER 60
Donnie: A member of the parliamentary finance committee Faleh in force: Abadi reforms will provide 30 trillion dinars to the state treasury www.faceiraq.com/inews.ph... LINK
Fit2beFit: Abadi can request the assistance of the United Nations to take action against "corrupt"
Donnie: Dinar dropped from 1192 to 1152 at 4:30 EST today.
Donnie: 9 Aug 2015 12:10 UTC - 10 Aug 2015 00:15 UTC USD/IQD close:1152.10028 low:1151.00000 high:1191.00
Donnie: I had to go back to Jan 2015 to get a price lower than 1151.00
Donnie: at least it's in the correct direction :)
Abraham: I expect Maliki to be placed under house arrest within days
Fit2beFit: Would be nice, but he has the money, tools and snakes around him
sczin11: ‹@Abraham› I WOULD PRESUME A DEAL HAS BEEN BROKERED, IN ORDER TO PUT THROUGH THE ACTIONS OF TODAY
Abraham: So does Team Six
disciple7: Good point
Abraham: ‹@sczin11› I said what has taken place today was many days in the making. I agree with you!
sczin11: ‹@Abraham› ALL OI AM SUGGESTING IS THERE MAY NEVER BE AN ARREST
disciple7: As long as he's out of office I'm happy
sczin11: ‹@disciple7› AND SO WILL DR. SINAN AL SHABIBI
BOBBY: the next 48 hours should be interesting
disciple7: ‹@sczin11› apsolutely
Abraham: ‹@sczin11› I believe he will be arrested! The World will not allow him to go free! If they do what message is being sent to other leaders?
Fit2beFit: What is the post from Chattels about MALIKI IS NOT GONE
disciple7: ‹@Fit2beFit› ask him
Fit2beFit: OOOH he is here, chattels your post earlier is coming up everywhere, your thoughts on that
JethroTexasTea: iraqoilforum @iraqoilforum 15h15 hours ago What will Abadi do with six unemployed Big Egos: Maliki, Allawi, Nujaifi, Mutlaq, Shawis, Aaraji? Admittedly some bigger than others.. #Iraq 2:38 AM - 9 Aug 2015 · Details 1 retweet 1 favorite Reply Retweet1 Favorite1 twitter.com/iraqoilforum/... iraqoilforum @iraqoilforum 15h15 hours ago PM Abadi is betting that those who will lose privileges in his reform drive will be overpowered by protesters in streets, backed by clergy twitter.com/iraqoilforum/... Moqtada Al-Sadr says he will call his followers to 'fill the streets' if Abadi's reform bill is stopped twitter.com/IraqLiveUpdat...
JethroTexasTea: iraqoilforum @iraqoilforum 10h10 hours ago So Maliki was plotting to unseat him, he turned the table on him and fired him, with the blessings of the street and the clergy #Iraq #Abadi twitter.com/iraqoilforum/...
Fit2beFit: Chattels Article quote: "the need for the House of works MPs and ministers to support Prime Minister al-Abadi by voting on the latest decisions... " Maliki is not gone. The Parliament must act and vote by a two-thirds majority to accomplish the abolishment of the constitutional offices of vice president(s) and deputy prime minister (s).
BOBBY: Abraham....... where do they stand on U.S intervention?
Abraham: I don't think Abadi would have done what he did today without that assurance if necessary
Abraham: This reforms were announced today. But be assured Abadi was steps ahead of Malaki and played out this plan could be weeks earlie. Any intelligent leader would!
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 15 hours ago Abolishing #Iraq dpy PMs & VPs now hinge on parliament approval. Note that situation without ANY vice presidents is constiutionally dubious
BOBBY: Abraham...... i would be curious where Sadar stands on U.S participation
Abraham: That's why he has the support he has! And I am sure they are individuals who already know the position they will hold
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› Visser is a constitutional expert authority
Fit2beFit: ‹@chattels› so you think he is NOT gone then?
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› depending upon how one defines gone i suppose
Fit2beFit: cool thanks
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› there remains the act of Parliament
BOBBY: Chattels...... waiting on proof?
chattels: perhaps for all intents and purposes he may be going,going
Abraham: ‹@BOBBY› the U.S. Could have prompted Adabi to cut a deal with Sadar with the understanding that if Abadi needed US support they would help. But get Sadat to be out front
Abraham: It's better for Iraq to solve it than US intervention
chattels: If as Visser says there must be at least one vice president under the constitution then could it be Maliki ?
Abraham: ‹@chattels› how could Abadi work with an individual who wants him out?
BOBBY: Abraham.... agreed sir
chattels: it is important that Abadi conducts himself according to the constitution
Abraham: If Malaki is to be V P what was accomplished today is a waste of time
Abraham: Malaki is a goner within days. He will be History!
disciple7: Agreed again
BOBBY: Skating to the airport must be a sign
Fit2beFit: ‹@BOBBY› No article says he went to airport, cause no one can find it
chattels: ‹@Abraham› the Iraqi PM does not choose his vice president, the Parliament must elect
Abraham: Adabi is brilliant! Maliki can't walk with Adabi. He does not have it!
chattels: that is why there have been three, one from each of the political factions
Abraham: Furthermore Adabi is a Christian! A strong Believer! God is with him!
disciple7: I didn't know that?
chattels: ‹@Abraham› What ! ?
Fit2beFit: Maliki is in or Maliki is out
BOBBY: Fit2beFit.... i thought that article was brought into the forum earlier
disciple7: Imo he is out.. this is the beginning of the end for M
disciple7: Long time coming
Fit2beFit: ‹@BOBBY› show me one that says he WENT TO AIRPORT AND TURNED BACK
Donnie: ‹@Fit2beFit› i believe it was posted here so just scroll up....
sczin11: ‹@Fit2beFit› wealthwatch.world/showthr...
Fit2beFit: and we need to see multiple articles on that
Fit2beFit: as I thought--- airport security to prevent al-Maliki from PREVENT
Butifldrm: Hi everyone!
Fit2beFit: Sources from inside the Baghdad airport: airport security to prevent al-Maliki from traveling after an argument with the protection and Nuri al-Maliki is trying to leave Iraq now to Syria in secret
Fit2beFit: there are none that said he WENT and TURNED AWAY
Butifldrm: Avery close freind of mine called me tonight and said Maliki was detained at the airport
Butifldrm: He said we may not see it in the news
Donnie: ‹@Butifldrm› did you record the call? can you post a copy of the recording? lol lol lol - j/k
chattels: ‹@Abraham› Abadi is a Shia Islam
Abraham: See what I said?
Butifldrm: My friends friend lives in Baghdad
chattels: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haider_al-Abadi
Fit2beFit: ‹@Butifldrm› Fine then I want Malikis number
BOBBY: Fit2beFit..... allow me to rephrase..... trying to go to the airport..
Abraham: Malaki is toast!!
Butifldrm: 1-800-Noose lol
Butifldrm: Truly, the person that told me this is very prominent in our community
Donnie: ‹@Butifldrm› i was just kidding.... I totally believe you!
Butifldrm: hey I would not lie about this still it's here say until we see something from the GOI
chattels: tomorrow will be here soon enough and there will likely be greater clarity to all of this
Butifldrm: I believe the most important news is what we have read today. It's amazing!
sczin11: ‹@Butifldrm› YOU THINK? LOL
Butifldrm: Yes, after parliament meets
Fit2beFit: ‹@chattels› thats for sure
Butifldrm: ‹@Butifldrm› of course
Abraham: ‹@chattels› maybe at one time. I have heard different
chattels: ‹@Abraham› i can only go by what i read
Fit2beFit: ‹@chattels› what happens this week i'm sure is gonna be interesting
chattels: ‹@Fit2beFit› these are remarkable times
Abraham: ‹@chattels› it's ok. I understand Brother
sczin11: ‹@Donnie› WE HAVE SPOKEN AB AGENDA CHANGES THIS PAST WEEK..LOOK FOR A CHANGE FOR TUESDAY..I BELIEVE I SAW A RELEASE TODAY SUGGESTING TUESDAY WOULD BE ALL ABOUT TODAY N MORE...AND SUPPISED SECRET BLOC MEETINGS TOMORROW
Fit2beFit: ‹@chattels› amazing when just 24/48 hours ago, so many were feeling doom and gloom
BOBBY: I will play devils advocate here...... what has been 100 percent proven?
chattels: Personal details Born Haider Jawad Kadhim Al-Abadi 1952 (age 62–63) Baghdad, Kingdom of Iraq Nationality Iraqi Political party Islamic Dawa Party Other political affiliations State of Law Coalition Children 3 Alma mater University of Technology University of Manchester Religion Shia Islam
Fit2beFit: ‹@BOBBY› taxes lol
Butifldrm: I am sure, there are going to be a lot of secret meetings hence forth
chattels: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hai... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haider_al-Abadi
Butifldrm: We are going to see rats jumping ship like the pied piper
Abraham: ‹@Butifldrm› yes, and many others were held to get to this place
BOBBY: someone has to ask lol
Butifldrm: I love that man He is the Pied Piper
Abraham: ‹@Butifldrm› as I said he is brilliant
Butifldrm: Smart Smart Smart
chattels: none of this may mean anything for our liquidity event
Abraham: ‹@Butifldrm› a Gideon anointing
BOBBY: Chattels... the blanket is out lol
Butifldrm: ‹@chattels› to me it means they can get the corruption under contro and international countries will be willing to invest in Iraq
creekside: ‹@chattels› Did you put your wet blanket back on?
Fit2beFit: Was there news about Malikis accounts frozen?
Butifldrm: I raq has lingered over the corruption so long
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› the status quo was not working
Butifldrm: Things were not this bad under Shabibi
chattels: ‹@creekside› never dried out :)
Butifldrm: I read the SIGIR report that stated Shabibi was going to raise the value of the Dinar
Abraham: ‹@Butifldrm› the Country has to be financially positioned with the necessary laws of protection to encourage investors
Butifldrm: ‹@Abraham› Yes corruption has to end
Donnie: 3 Aug 2015 01:15 UTC - 10 Aug 2015 01:18 UTC USD/IQD close:1149.45 low:1149.43 high:1191.50
Butifldrm: What sane investor/person would allow their money to be stolen by the corrupt
Donnie: drop from 1191 at 4:30 EST
Tootsie: Just a comment Shabs did not have some of the challenges that are prevalent now, frankly Low oil income, daash isis and multiple other challenges
Abraham: ‹@Butifldrm› so true
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› what sane person would invest in Iraq by buying their currency ? LOL
BOBBY: Butifildrm.... when was that report issued?
Donnie: ‹@chattels› Hey! I resemble that remark! lol
Abraham: What a total idiot Maliki is!!
Butifldrm: Chatttels I can only believe that this corruption issue came to a head not only by the protests, but the GOI knew they were going to release 5 Billion to add liquidity to the private banks
Butifldrm: ‹@chattels› you are going to be blessed
Butifldrm: God has a plan
BOBBY: Abraham.... i dont underestimate him for a second
Fit2beFit: ‹@Butifldrm› Amen
Butifldrm: we have to look at things with patience and methodically
Tootsie: Maliki ~ sociopath and a few other psych names
disciple7: ‹@Butifldrm› agreed and it's in motion
Abraham: He had such an opportunity to do good for the Country, but allowed his own greed to swallow him!!
Butifldrm: We need to pray for the people
Abraham: ‹@Butifldrm› I am already
Butifldrm: Truly these protests by the people have had a huge impact
BOBBY: Abraham.... agreed.... as much as i despise him i dont underestimate him as long as he is breathing
chattels: ‹@Butifldrm› blessed with your fellowship along the way :)
Fit2beFit: ‹@BOBBY› so true
Butifldrm: IMO we will be doing the same thing here in the United States of Americaq
Abraham: ‹@Butifldrm› they were primed because they were respectful
JethroTexasTea: ‹@Butifldrm› oh you gettin deeeep now
BOBBY: it took guts to do what they did
Butifldrm: I am so proudof them
Butifldrm: they have gone along the same lines as Egypt
Fit2beFit: And the whole world news jumped on it
Abraham: God's Word never returns void! What is done in the dark will be revealed in light! That is a Promise!!
Butifldrm: Thirty Million people marched into Cairo to take out the government twice
disciple7: For sure
Butifldrm: it was one of the most amazing things I have ever seen
Butifldrm: The power of the people can be an amazing thing
JethroTexasTea: yea Iraq got two options imo now
JethroTexasTea: no more shade of grey can kickin imo
JethroTexasTea: ‹@Butifldrm› wow that is amazing..thx for posting that
Butifldrm: You know why the Muslim Brotherhood were crucifyin Christains in the Streets
Butifldrm: Now the leader Morsi whom by the way Hillary Clinton helped palce in power is now sentenced to death
JethroTexasTea: niqash retweeted Gregor Peter @L0gg0l 5h5 hours ago IRAQI SECURTIY FORCES PREVENT VICE PRESIDENT MALIKI FROM LEAVING COUNTRY AT BAGHDAD AIRPORT, BAGHDADIYA TV SAYS twitter.com/L0gg0l/status...
JethroTexasTea: niqash @niqash In-depth reporting and analysis from inside and right around Iraq. In Arabic, Kurdish and English.
Fit2beFit: But when will they freeze his assets
Butifldrm: Think about this there are only 33 million people in Iraq
Abraham: Mohammed can't help him now!!
JethroTexasTea: Death of Benito Mussolini - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dea... Wikipedia The death of Benito Mussolini, the Italian fascist dictator, occurred on 28 April 1945, in the final days of World War II in Europe, when he was summarily executed . en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dea... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Benito_Mussolini
JethroTexasTea: might turn out to be a similar blue print
Butifldrm: ‹@JethroTexasTea› Maliki appears to be not leaving the country
Butifldrm: now that leads me to another question I have had
JethroTexasTea: ‹@Butifldrm› yea he seems to be stuck
Butifldrm: I thought maybe he had been given immunity for his agreement on this restructuring of the government
JethroTexasTea: ‹@Butifldrm› he might've at one point in time but doesn't seem to be the case now
Butifldrm: it appears from his travels plans he has not!
JethroTexasTea: I "think" that might be why he went rogue releasing all those prisoners in 2013
JethroTexasTea: might've been turned down denied
JethroTexasTea: and he went nuts
JethroTexasTea: then got some type of immunity being VP until he started acting crazy again all speculation of course
Butifldrm: Today should be one of the happiest days for Iraq and us
Butifldrm: I bet Shabibi is laughing his ARSE off
JethroTexasTea: ‹@Butifldrm› :grin:
JethroTexasTea: definitely gonna remember this day that's for sure
Butifldrm: WE need to watch very closely what happens in Parliament tomorrow
Butifldrm: How they vote
Butifldrm: IMO the constitution might have to be amended
Butifldrm: and their may be some flack about that