Post From Wealthwatch.world Chat Room 11-13-15
Wealthwatch OOTW & Member Chat 11-13-15 Part 2 of 2
chattels: ‹@OOTW› I have had a " bad feeling " about the 50,000 note from the outset.
chattels: 11-13-2015 Newshound Guru Kaperoni Article: "The central bank issued banknotes fifty thousand Dinars category" Its officially on the CBI site now under announcements.
OOTW: I DO NOT HAVE A BAD FEELING ABOUT IT CHATTELS
OOTW: WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXPAND ON WHY?
chattels: ‹@OOTW› no, i am a macroeconomic moron.
OOTW: I'M NOT AN ECONOMIST - HOWEVER I'VE READ AS MUCH INFORMATION AS I CAN GET ON THIS STRATEGY
disciple7: honesty at its finest.
OOTW: AND IT TRULY IS A DEVICE TO GIVE THE PEOPLE MORE BUYING POWER AND REDUCE THE DINAR SUPPLY
disciple7: ‹@chattels› as am i
OOTW: EVERYONE - WE AS DINAR HOLDERS HAVE BEEN/ OR HAVE ALLOWED OURSELVES TO BE CONDITIONED TO EXPECT A CERTAIN OUTCOME RE AN "RV" OR WHATEVER IT IS WE'VE BEEN TOLD WILL HAPPEN...
I DO NOT HAVE ANY FEAR ABOUT THE 50K NOTES COMING OUT - IT WILL BE A BRIDGE TO PULLING IN NOTES IN THE MARKET - THE VIDEO TRANSLATION I POSTED DESCRIBES THE PROCESS
chattels: ‹@Doug_W› the beatings will continue until the morale improves :)
Doug_W: if it really IS worth $100.00 that is a doubling of the Dinar's value which is in teh right direction
OOTW: AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, I DO NOT ENTIRELY AGREE WITH KAP'S ASSESSMENT OF FUTURE WORTH OF THE DINAR, BUT...I'M NO ECONOMIST - (NEITHER IS HE BTW) HOWEVER –
HE DID PUT OUT A CONFERENCE CALL , I BELIEVE AROUND SPRING OF THIS YEAR, WHICH OUTLINES THE PROCESS - WHICH ALSO IS SPOKEN OF IN THE VIDEO TRANSLATION I POSTED
OOTW: HE EXPLAINS HOW RELEASING THE 50K (AND POTENTIALLY 100K) NOTES ARE A BRIDGE TO REMOVING LIQUIDITY IN THE MARKET,
HE ALSO EXPLAINS HE BELIEVES THAT IRAQ WILL BE MOVING AWAY FROM A DOLLAR PEG - AND THAT THROUGH THE USE OF THE 50K NOTES, DINAR WILL BE DRAWN IN,
AND THEN THERE WILL BE A RELEASE OF OTHER DENOMINATIONS, WITH A CHOSEN/ASSIGNED VALUE - HE BELIEVES THERE WILL BE A FLOAT
chattels: I will meet you all at the bank if we have a liquidity event - until then i will try to adhere to the news that I think that I know something about
OOTW: KAPS THEORY IS NOT THAT MUCH DIFFERENT TO WHAT'S POSTED/TRANSCRIPTION OF THE VIDEO OF SALEH AND ANOTHER ECONOMIST SPEAKING
chattels: Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt
OOTW: YES DOUG IN EFFECT, IT WILL BE A DOUBLING OF THE DINARS VALUE, ACCORDING TO THE VIDEO AND THE ARTICLES IN THE SAME THREAD..WHAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO DO, WE DO NOT KNOW YET
OOTW: IF THEY WANTED TO LOP THEY WOULDN'T BE PUTTING OUT MORE ZERO NOTES
OOTW: THEY'RE SIMPLY ENACTING A STRATEGY WHICH WILL ALLOW THEM TO DRAW IN LOWER DENOMS AND MAKE IT EASIER FOR PURCHASES AND GIVE THE PEOPLE A BIT MORE BUYING POWER
OOTW: EVERYONE, PLEASE GO TO IQDCALLS.COM AND LOOK FOR KAPS CONFERENCE CALL ON THIS SUBJECT IF YOU WANT TO HEAR THE PROCESS - I CANNOT GET ON BOARD YET WITH HIS (SOLELY) FLOAT THEORY - WE JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE
OOTW: HE SPOKE ABOUT THIS IN , I BELIEVE APRIL/MAY/JUNE..NOT SURE WHICH
OOTW: SOMEWHERE IN THERE
texas: Where on the CBI site does it state the 50,000 note, i opened all under NEWS & ANNOUNCEMENTS, saw nothing
chattels: Nothing will change my posture with this venture - I am in it until the end - for better or worse.
disciple7: ‹@chattels› agreed
Lauren305: ‹@chattels› ‹@OOTW› translate.google.com/tran... I got this in email from a friend. Seems to indicate the Amnesty Law was passed.
chattels: ‹@texas› There was no link with Kap's post - OOTW may be able to help
Lauren305: Documents: approval of the new general amnesty law .. The most prominent of the agreed points (Details) - See more at: translate.googleuserconte...
OOTW: parliament.iq/ILaws.aspx BAD LINK
OOTW: STILL NOT POSTED AS A LAW , NOR HAVING A SECOND READING AT THE PARLIAMENT SITE
OOTW: THIS IS THE LINK TO LISTEN TO KAPS CALLS
Lauren305: 12-11-2015 06:00 PM Publish 'news agency', on Thursday, and documents the new general amnesty law based on what passed by Parliament and approved by the President of the Republic and based on the provisions of the first item of Article 61 and Item III of Article 73 of the Constitution.
The documents reveal the main points of that relieved a general amnesty for Iraqi sentenced to death, or one of the penalties for not to have committed crimes under anti-terrorism law or human trafficking, drugs, kidnapping and smuggling antiquities, bribery and other crimes. - See more at: translate.googleuserconte...
chattels: ‹@Lauren305› There is a second reading of the amnesty law scheduled on the next agenda of Parliament I believe
OOTW: YESTERDAY IT WAS READ A SECOND TIME, BUT NOT FOR A VOTE...AFTER READING THE PARLIAMENT PRESS RELEASE, IT SEEMS IT WAS READ AS A MEANS TO FURTHER DISCUSS THE LEGISLATION, BUT NOT A VOTE
Lauren305: ‹@chattels› which is what throws me as I recall (could be early alzheimer's) President Massoum in his push for Reconciliation stating it required voting along with the Investment Law.. Not that it required reading.
chattels: ‹@Lauren305› I had not seen that article, but in reading it my sense is that it is not the full amnesty law envisioned by the various political factions.
Lauren305: wasnt there a website that listed the readings/dates and such?
OOTW: YES HERE IT IS
Lauren305: ‹@chattels› oh well, typical Iraqi mentality apparently. Why do something correctly/fully when you can do it half-arsed?
Lauren305: ‹@chattels› Massoum article is the one which your arch-rival used to back their saying that Reconciliation was done... it wasnt, just Massoum saying it could be done if the laws were finished quickly
chattels: ‹@OOTW› we had an amnesty law thread in the forum ?
chattels: ‹@OOTW› can you pull it up ?
OOTW: THANKS DISCIPLE
disciple7: no problem
OOTW: I HAVE NOT POSTED ANTYHING IN THE AMNESTY THREAD, BECAUSE NOTHING CONCRETE HAS YET HAPPENED
OOTW: WHEN WE GET A LAW, IT WILL GO THERE
OOTW: THIS WEEK'S GOVT THREAD CONTAINS THE LATEST NEWS ON THAT STRAIGHT FROM THE PARLIAMENT SITE
OOTW: HERE'S AN ANNOUNCEMENT FROM THE CBI
OOTW: THIS STATEMENT ADDRESSES CORRUPTION
OOTW: FROM THE CBI Statement issued by the Central Bank of Iraq Central Bank of Iraq feel that decent public need some clarification about what Taatdolh The media about the monetary policy and procedures and its own events, and presentation documents Issued after cutting him out of context or reasons of adoption ..
At the time of the cases Fiscal and monetary sensitive because of their relevance to the country's economy and the interests of the community, the ingested Non-specialists may lead to confusion among recipients and the impact on their decisions and their expectations,
We would like to show the following: - 1. I have characterized the majority of those statements fallacies and spreading an atmosphere of pessimism And frustration, either because of the absence of an accurate understanding of the purposes or non-objective runs from the motives Different,
some linked to political reality and the bickering and recrimination, and the spirit of incitement For the purpose of aborting the rest of the functioning institutions in the state, as well as some Proposals would be acceptable to the public and raise their questions and reservations at strip off Context, or viewed from one angle.
OOTW: 2. with the central bank's policy is to distance from the debates and reactions Statements and rhetoric, and not to disclose the reasons and justifications for some procedures In line with the nature of the roles and the texts of law, particularly with regard to banking secrecy,
but The size of inaccuracies and confusion was such that harm the general stability and reputation and Astaqraralsouk Iraq externally, and the consequent serious effects on Iraq's financial and monetary transactions And banking and the expectations and reactions of dealers with investors, donors and others.
OOTW: 3. In the light of what has been asked of documents and information concerning violations of some banks And companies in the sale of foreign currency window, and try to suggest to the public not to take Karim
This bank any action in this regard, we would like to clarify the following: The Central Bank set up during the period 2015 - 2012 many of the suits in the courts The competent Iraqi banks and companies contrary to the instructions sell the currency window Foreign and those relating to anti-money laundering issues.
The number of such suits has reached the limits of (97) a lawsuit pertaining to banks and other financial institutions and clients of Many customers of judicial decisions has been issued in this regard. (B) has been imposed fines reached Akiemha up to 400 billion Iraqi dinars included (40) banks.
OOTW: © it has been punished (426) non-bank financial institution penalties (fine, alarm, alarm, Denial of window sell the currency) and the withdrawal of permits and licenses for some of them with the imposition The tutelage of the four banks into liquidation arrived one end while the rehabilitation Two other banks.
(D) has been imposed multiple fines have reached the limits of Akiemha (5) billion Iraqi dinars in With respect to other banking irregularities.
OOTW: Therefore we call on the Bank of everyone to exercise responsibility and credibility and to look at things and processed Professional and objective perspective to serve the interest both locally and internationally, and that this bank is fully prepared
To inform the interested ordered the bank and the issues referred to brief them on the ground and documentaries, and our doors are open for this purpose. Central Bank of Iraq 11/12/2015
OOTW: HOW MANY WOULD SAY THAT MOHSEN ("KEYWORDS) IS TRYING TO FIT IN WITH THE CURRENT ABADI GOVERNMENT?
disciple7: ‹@OOTW› yep
OOTW: YEAH SINCE THE DAWA PARTY HAS LEAKED THROUGH THE PRESS IT WANTS TO SUPPORT THE REFORMS AND BACK ABADI, THIS, IMHO, HAS BEEN A GAME CHANGER TO SUPPORT ABADI'S REFORMS
OOTW: MOHSEN DOESN'T WANT TO BE SEEN STILL IN ALIGNMENT WITH MALIKI IT SEEMS
OOTW: BUT, I DO STILL FEEL THAT , UNFORTUNATELY, DAWA STILL HAS A GRIP ON IRAQ'S GOVT - MORE PEOPLE ARE MOVING AWAY FROM THE SLC SO THIS IS GOOD OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
Doug_W: 26 ppl and nobody chatting???
disciple7: where is everyone at???????????????
Shnozzle: Just passing through right now... Watching Forex is like following the bouncing ball... 1080 back to 1165... crazy movement... Hi, All!!! BBL
disciple7: ‹@Shnozzle› agreed
Doug_W: hiya Shn
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chattels: Reidar Visser @reidarvisser 3h3 hours ago ISIS reportedly claims responsibility for 2 major suicide bomber attacks in Baghdad today www.alsumaria.tv/news/151... … #Iraq
Doug_W: I recently got a book called "Dying to kill" its quite a study in Arabic culture and suicide bombings
chattels: U.S. ‘Pretty Damn Sure’ It Killed Jihadi John, ISIS Beheader of Americans Mohammed Emwazi, the English-speaking executioner from the gruesome videos showing the murders of U.S. hostages, may have been killed by an American drone in Syria early Friday.
ISIS’s most famous executioner, Mohammed Emwazi—best known as “Jihadi John”—was targeted in a U.S. airstrike in Syria early Friday morning, according to a senior U.S. administration official.
Emwazi was part of "The Beatles," three British ISIS members that held, taunted, and tortured Western prisoners. Emwazi is suspected of carrying out numerous executions for the so-called Islamic State, including the beheading of American journalist James Foley and other American hostages.
A U.S. defense official told The Daily Beast that the U.S. military followed Emwazi for the better part of a day leading up to the strike, which happened as he left a building.
While officials cannot officially say he is dead—and won’t be able to for some time—they are all but certain. “We are pretty damn sure he is dead,” the defense official said. www.thedailybeast.com/art...
chattels: “We are pretty damn sure he is dead,” ..........
Doug_W: ♥♥♥ good old drones anyhow ♥♥♥
chattels: Kurds: We’ve Captured Sinjar From ISIS www.thedailybeast.com/che...
[02:17:00 PM] chattels: Kurds Retake Sinjar From ISIS, Almost Too Easily ISIS hardly put up any resistance, but now comes the hard part of holding the Iraqi mountain city and allowing its beleaguered Yazidi residents to return safely. www.thedailybeast.com/art...
chattels: " ........... now comes the hard part of holding the Iraqi mountain city and allowing its beleaguered Yazidi residents to return safely."
chattels: Remember the phases we have been discussing !
chattels: Maintenance, Security, Resettlement and Rebuilding.
Doug_W: they need a stronger currency to "rebuild" imo
TxBrand: at least 30 killed in Paris.. terrorist
TxBrand: my guess is you will be seeing muslims deported from all countries..if not this time very soon
TxBrand: 100 hostages taken
TxBrand: more injuries than ambulances
TxBrand: Geraldo's daughter was at the soccor game
TxBrand: French Pres -----> We have decided to close the borders