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Wealthwatch OOTW & SCZIN Chat 10-08-15
OOTW: First on CNN: U.S. officials say Russian missiles heading for Syria landed in Iran Barbara Starr-Profile-Image By Barbara Starr and Jeremy Diamond, CNN Updated 3:38 PM ET, Thu October 8, 2015 | Video Source: CNN Russian missile lands in Iran,
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OOTW: let me repost
OOTW: stupid cnn lol
OOTW: FOR NOW THIS ARTICLE IS STILL CONSIDERED A BIG "IF"
OOTW: Washington (CNN)A number of cruise missiles launched from a Russian ship and aimed at targets in Syria have crashed in Iran, two U.S. officials told CNN Thursday. Monitoring by U.S. military and intelligence assets has concluded that at least four missiles crashed as they flew over Iran. One official said there may be casualties, but another official said this is not yet known.
It's unclear where in Iran the missiles landed. The Russian ships have been positioned in the south Caspian Sea, meaning the likely flight path for missiles into Syria would cross over both Iran and Iraq.
The Russians have been firing a relatively new cruise missile called "Kaliber," using it for the first time in combat. The Russian Defense Ministry, however, took strong issue with the CNN report in a posting on Facebook Thursday.
[OOTW: "Unlike CNN, we don't report quoting anonymous sources, but we show launches of our missiles and the targets they hit in real-time mode," the statement reads, noting that Russian drones are operating in Syria around the clock, presumably monitoring operations.
It continues, "No matter how unpleasant and unexpected it is for our colleagues in the Pentagon and Langley, our strike yesterday with precision-guided weapons at ISIS infrastructure in Syria hit its targets."
Iran's semi-official FARS news agency also said that Iranian authorities also haven't confirmed the U.S. officials' information at this point. On Wednesday, Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu told President Vladimir Putin on Russian television that all 26 missiles launched from four missile ships struck their targets, with no civilian facilities hit.
Putin then congratulated him on the performance of the weapons. It was not clear whether Shoigu was referring to the same missiles as the U.S. officials, as the latter may have been describing ones launched after the TV appearance.
OOTW: The assessment came as Defense Secretary Ashton Carter warned Thursday at NATO headquarters in Brussels that Russia would likely suffer casualties "within the coming days" as it deepens its military involvement in Syria.
Carter also took rhetorical aim at Moscow Thursday, calling out Russia for "increasingly unprofessional behavior" after a Russian fighter jet violated Turkish airspace earlier this week and after Russia launched missiles into Syria from the Caspian Sea "without warning."
While Carter again pointed to the need for an agreement on "professional safety procedures" to avoid accidents in Syrian skies between Russian and U.S.-led sorties, which are taking aim at ISIS, he stressed that the U.S. would not cooperate militarily at a strategic level with Russia.
OOTW: "We have not and will not agree to cooperate with Russia so long as they continue to pursue this misguided strategy," he said earlier in the week.
"It remains our hope that Russia will see that tethering itself to a sinking ship is a losing strategy because Russia has the opportunity to change course and do the right thing. I don't know if they will."
OOTW: In Rome earlier in his trip, Carter described to a "tragically flawed" Russian strategy in Syria, where Russian military actions appear increasingly aimed at bolstering the Syrian regime of President Bashar al-Assad in his struggle against rebel forces and less at fighting ISIS. U.S. and Russian military officials have yet to establish a reliable communication channel to avoid potentially tragic accidents between Russian and U.S.-led forces operating in Syrian airspace.
Separately, a U.S. defense official told CNN that there have been at least two incidents in which Russian fighter jets flew in close proximity to U.S. drones. The first incident was not believed to be deliberate. However, the U.S. assessment is that the second encounter was a deliberate attempt to shadow the unmanned aircraft.
OOTW: Unlike the recent encounters with manned U.S. fighter jets, the drones did not turn away, since no pilots were at risk.
OOTW: THERE ARE SEVERAL VIDEOS AT CNN'S SITE ON THE CURRENT SITUATION WITH PUTIN/RUSSIA AND SYRIA/ASSAD
OOTW: HERE'S A LINK TO A SEEMINGLY POSITIVE AND INTERESTING ARTICLE POSTED BY SCZIN11
OOTW: wealthwatch.world/showthr... "Abadi Office: withdraw bills from the parliament in order to adapt it to reforms"
*SCZIN11: IF YOU HAVE ANSWERS TO ANY OF THE FOLLOWING QUESTIONS, I WOULD GREATLY APPRECIATE SEEING THEM...
MOST OF YOU KNOW I AM VERY EBULLIENT, WHEN IT COMES TO THE INCREASE IN VALUE OF THE NEW IRAQI DINAR, IN EXCHANGE WITH THE US DOLLAR....
HOWEVER, I AM REALLY VERY TIRED OF READING THE RATIONALLE OF MOST OF THE CULT LEADERS OUT THERE IN DINAR LAND... IT IS A DARN SHAME, THAT SO MANY INNOCENT PEOPLE RELY ON, AND LISTEN TO YOUR CRAP...
THERE ARE TIMES TO FORM OPINIONS, AND THERE ARE TIMES TO USE COMMON SENSE AND LOGIC.
PLEASE DONT TELL ME "IT IS IRAQ", OR "THEY LIE", OR THERE WILL BE MISDIRECTION BEFORE THE CHANGE... OR CALM BEFORE THE STORM!
*SCZIN11: REMEMBER, AS I HAVE STATED OVER AND OVER, .... WE DON'T KNOW, WHAT WE DON'T KNOW! BUT WHAT WE DO KNOW,
IF LAWS THAT WERE NEEDED TO BE IN PLAY, WHERE READY FOR A VOTE, AND NOT BEING DELAYED, STALLED, OR SIMPLY WAITING FOR SOMETHING ELSE TO HAPPEN FIRST, THEN THEY WOULD BE IN PARLIAMENT, AND VOTED ON... PLAIN A
*SCZIN11: PLAIN AND SIMPLE, VANILLA ICE CREAM FOLKS!
*SCZIN11: THINK ABOUT IT, IF THE INVESTMENT LAW AMMENDMENTS WERE READY FOR VOTE, (AS AN EXAMPLE) WHY WOULD PARLIAMENT TAKE ANOTHER 8 DAYS OFF NOW,
IF THIS WAS ALL THAT WAS NEEDED TO RESCUE THE COUNTRY, AND "potential change in value" THEIR CURRENCY?
OR BETTER YET, WHY WOULDNT IT HAVE BEEN ON AGENDA FOR VOTE LAST TWO SESSIONS OF HOR BEFORE THIS NEW VACATION, WHEN THEIR AGENDA WAS SO LIGHT?
AND THEN, THEY COULD HAVE CELEBRATED AS SOME OUT THERE CLAIM THEY ARE DOING...BIG CELEBRATIONS...COME ON FOLKS...
*SCZIN11: FOR A MONTH WE HEARD THE CABINET APPROVED TO WITHDRAW 100 PLUS LAWS THAT HAVE BEEN SITTING IN THE PARLIAMENT FOR A LONG TIME, MANY FROM THE FORMER REGIME, AND HAVE NOT MADE IT TO A VOTE..
EVERYONE JUMPED, WONDERED WHY, GUESSED, CLAIMED TO KNOW THE REASONS, AND NO ONE STOPPED TO THINK ABOUT THE REALITY...CAUSE WE DIN'T KNOW, WHAT WE DIDN'T KNOW...
AND TODAY WE SEE A REAL VALID AND SENSIBLE REASON FINALLY GIVEN TO THE WORLD FOR THIS ACTION...
*SCZIN11: AND NOONE IN DINAR LAND IS EVEN ACKNOWLEDGING THIS NEWS..
*SCZIN11: MANY OF THE LAWS NEED ADJUSTMENTS TO CONFORM WITH THE REFORMS OF THE ABADI REGIME....
THE FINANCIAL PARTS OF MANY OF THE LAWS, MAY NEED ADJUSTMENTS BASED ON THE FINANCIAL STATUS OF THE COUNTRY TODAY...
AS A MATTER OF FACT, MAYBE THE FACT THAT ALL THE CORRUPTION OCCURRED THE WAY IT DId OVER THJE LAST 8 YEARS, IS THE ACTUAL REASON ALOT OF THESE LAWS NEVER GOT VOTED ON, AS THEY KNEW THERE WAS NO MONEY TO FUND THE LAWS...
*SCZIN11: WOW, WHAT A REVELATION? BUT NOONE IN DINAR LAND IS EVEN TALKING ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS.. OR COULD MEAN..
*SCZIN11: HOW COME THEY CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THE CORRUPTION, AND BIG NAMES WILL BE NAMED SOON,
AND MOSUL REPORT IS STILL BEING SHOVED BACK AND FORTH, AND HOR IS EXHONORATING MINISTERS WITH PROVEN CORRUPTION ATTACHMENTS,
AND YET THEY STILL WALK FREE?
FOLKS, LAWS NEED AND WILL BE PASSED... ARRESTS WILL BE MADE.... IRAQ WILL STAND ON ITS OWN, AND EVENTUALLHY BECOME THE SOVERIEGN DEMOCRATIC POWER THE WORLD KNOWS THEY WILL BE....
*SCZIN11: THERE IS AN ABADI PLAN, THAT WE ARE NOT PRIVY TO...
THERE MUST BE AN EVENT, A HAPPENING, A TRIGGER TO IGNITE THE PROCESS OF JUDICIARY REFORM, ECONOMIC AND MONETARY REFORM, AND THE VOTING OF ALL THE LAWS NEEDED TO LEAD THE COUNTRY TO COMPLETE THE BUILDING OF THEIR TRUE DEMOCRACY, AND BRING THEIR CITIZENS TO FULL PROSPERITY.
*SCZIN11: REMEMBER, IF VOTING ON IMPORTANT LAWS WAS ALL THAT WAS NEEDED, WHY WOULDNT THEY HAVE DONE IT?
*SCZIN11: IF GETTING MALIKI OUT IN 48 HOURS WAS SO EASY, WHY HASNT IT BEEN DONE?
*SCZIN11: IF RELEASING THE 50K NOTES WAS SO EASY AND IMPORTANT, WHY HASNT IT BEEN DONE?
*SCZIN11: IF DELETING THE ZEROES WAS GOING TO SAVE THE COUNTRY, WHY HASNT IT BEEN DONE?
*SCZIN11: IF NATIONAL RECONCILIATION WAS SO EASY, WHY HAVENT WE HAD THEE "BIG CELEBRATION" ONE OF YOU CLAIMED WAS HAPPENING?
*SCZIN11: ALL THESE THINGS MAY BE IN THE WORKS...THEY MAY BE READY FOR FINAL IMPLEMENTATIONS.. BUT IT IS OBVIOUS, THEY ARE WAITING FOR SOMETHING...OR MAYBE SOMEONE...
*SCZIN11: THINK ABOUT WHAT I AM STATING HERE.... *SCZIN11: wealthwatch.world/showthr...
Donnie: ‹@*SCZIN11› we know they are waiting for "something".... just relax and wait for "something" to happen :)
chattels: If reforms are indeed pending or intended then it makes sense that proposed legislation preparing the reforms would need to be modified to comport with the intended reforms .
chattels: Pre - dating *
chattels: The crime and tragedy attendant to the everyday RV barkers is that seize upon thee and every event to herald the RV
Donnie: ‹@chattels› did u see my post "It’s time for the United States to start worrying about a Saudi collapse "
chattels: Did not - on my phone and been away from lap top all day
OOTW: VERY INSIGHTFUL POINTS SCZIN11 - I'D VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION -
I CERTAINLY HOPE IT DOESN'T CONTAIN TEXT THAT WOULD POTENTIALLY EITHER FURTHER DISTURB SECTARIAN ISSUES, OR FURTHER THREATEN THE CORRUPT POLITICIANS STILL IN GOVERNMENT...WE HAVE ENOUGH TROUBLE GETTING LEGISLATION PASSED
Doug_W: amen OO
OOTW: Send Code of Federal judicial power to the Council of State and claim the House of Representatives to amend the draft of the Federal Court Act 08/10/2015 14:02 General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers sent the Code of Federal judicial power to the State Consultative Council of the Ministry of Justice after the Cabinet approval of three laws and legal clauses relating to the Code projects.
Also sent a request to the House of Representatives to amend the draft federal Supreme Court Act, based on the Council of Ministers Resolution No. 358.
The Council of Ministers approved in its meeting held last Tuesday on the organization of judges and public prosecutors Affairs bills, and the Supreme Judicial Council with the amendment of articles (2 / a) and (3 / III) of the above bill under not combine the posts of Chairman of the Supreme Judicial Council and the President The Federal Supreme Court, in addition to the project of public administration for the federal judiciary law.
He asked the Council of Ministers of the Council of Representatives to amend the draft of the Federal High Court Actconsignees link the Council of Ministers Resolution No. 90 of 2015 in line project of the Supreme Judicial Council Act.
The face of the Council of Ministers to refer the draft laws This to the Council of State based on the provisions of Article (5) of the law of the State Consultative Council for scrutiny fundamentalist back to the General Secretariat of the Council of Ministers with a view to re-displayed again on the Council of Ministers.
BOBBY: Check out the comments on sczin11 post on recaps.....
TxBrand: ‹@BOBBY› this ? -----> SCZIN11: Prime Minister Haider al-Abadi Abadi Office confirms the existence of corruption in the file structure of the battalions of the three presidencies Author: AHF Editor: AHF 07/10/2015 20:18 Number of Views: 604 Long-Presse / Baghdad