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PTR CALL - 12-28-11 TONY AND DAN
TONY STATES - Good stuff, we keep telling you we're hearing it and its about to happen cause thats what we're hearing. I like hearing that. I'm still hearing its going to be done by the end of the week, still their goal. Should have been done before Christmas, the 15th...Doesn't mean info was wrong, it just didn't happen.
TONY STATES – I got calls all day yesterday, a great day. They're looking for today, tomorrow, Friday. Makes sense to me. What banks have done, fact that their exchange is closed, end of yr, books have to be done, people in Iraq that should be here w/their families. Meetings yesterday…people being sworn in to positions yesterday. More supposed to be signed in today. Things are happening. Not ever going to be able to tell you the moment and neither can anyone else except the guy that does it
TONY STATES - still hearing this. The info is not wrong...still hearing that it is going to happen. Calls say that it could happen today or tomorrow. The banks are closed, books have to be finalized.....people visiting Iraq when they should be here with their families.....More people are supposed to be sworn in today.....I can tell you that 3 countries had a rate last night and they were excited as they never had a rate before. Appointments made at banks for people who are not you and me.....they were at the …It is my belief that this has happened.
TONY STATES - Unofficially, just like Dan said, the RV has taken place. Banks have been trading this inter-bank. 400 trillion dollars transferred yesterday....where did that come from if this hasn't already happened. Just because you did not personally hear of this does not mean it did not happen... You guys have been talking about Henry on the board and other sites, his status he says he has. Anyway, you guys already know. That's true. He told you guys he wasn't talking anymore. There was a reason for that. Some of you picked up on that. Good things are happening. I expect to see this before Friday.
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TONY STATES - Its politics, business, big money involved. On the calls, if life, anything else..... Old money trumps new money ever time. Believe that! There's some people with some OLD money. Because you become a millionaire overnight, you've got nothing on them! Their resources and connections will be greater than yours. T/Old money hates for you to win the lottery and think you are better or even equal to them. We can't predict this. That's part of the whole thing that's going on. Old money still controls everything. The president, PM, still controlled by old money. We can't predict. Geo Bush had a plan when he went to Iraq, but didn't go according to plan. Took 7 more years. People talking to us still don't know something else happened, or there was one more thing, or this guy changed his mind, and that's what messed up the plan.
TONY STATES - We've been given dates. By the 31st. Things could change. That's all.
VIPER STATES - One of our very best contacts pointed out that an MOU was negotiated...stipulates that things must occur before 12/31 - Unambiguous and crystal clear. Next few days should be very interesting… United Nations negotiated on behalf of IMF, World Bank of Iraq
DAN STATES - D/Gives me comfort when I hear these things….31st of Dec being a very important date. Don't think anyone wants it to get outside this month.
VIPER STATES - He also stated cohesion of Iraq GOI is of utmost importance here. Let's hope they can keep it together a little longer.
TONY STATES – MOU- Memo of Understanding - an agreement w/o a contract. If it doesn't happen, there will be consequences…. we got this back in 2009 and no one paid attention b/c no one thought it would go that far…. We got some other info that definitely says its cut off Friday or a price will be paid. Not worried about the price. Has to end. Can't continue forever.
DAN STATES – an MOU can be just as binding as a contract. Multilateral agreement between parties… Binding. Can be changed, but depending on the wording, they can tear you up just as bad as a contract in court. Not just a gentlemen's agreement in this case. It should be taken seriously. Didn't want it taken too lightly.
TONY STATES - I don't know what the consequences are. Not trying to imply that. We have people that should be home w/their families who are over their monitoring things and people being put into positions. Reason they are there and its happening right now. Comfortable with time frame of between now and Friday. I know this is done. 3 or 4 calls yesterday saying the same thing. Got more and more confirmation. This morning when I got calls from there and here, all saying same thing, who got sworn in, this is what we're waiting for. Two separate sources, two separate continents. I'm feeling good. I know this has got to happen. That's where I'm at.
TONY STATES - time frames I've been given, 3-5 est, or midnight to 3 am. When Iraq first opens for biz. If its up to us, its when all 3 of our time zones and Hawaii is open. Consistently the time frames when someone tells me its going to happen... CBI ...must show up there to be effective…Told months ago next thing to happen will show up on CBI for it to be effective for us. The rate, as I understand it, is already in 3 or 4 countries, but we can't see it. There are some people being paid today, yesterday and last week. Not talking about countries. I'm talking about individuals.
TONY STATES - 3-5 est in the evenings, 12 to 3 in the morning. If it doesn't happen then, don't give it any thought for the rest of the day.
Caller Question: Some of the gurus out there say it might go another year or several months......
DAN STATES - First of all, not gurus, they're fools. Even if it goes on 31 more days from now, should not go more than 5 days. If it does, something got screwed up. Anyone who says that, stop listening to them. This cannot go on for one more month BY DESIGN… That's not the way is supposed to go, nor should it be allowed… Too many countries suffering…. If someone's telling you another 6 months, STOP LISTENING.
TONY STATES - When we got involved in this and we said we knew we were going get info, things would get crazy, then quiet, then just plain stupidity. You have to be rational. If it doesn't happen by Friday its going to March or June of next year?! No way. No one can give you that answer. Mind blowing stupidity will take place.... misinformation....what you are hearing from people saying if it does not happen by Friday that it will happen 2013...reset???? That's wrong!!!!!! Our economy won't allow, same with other countries.
TONY STATES - What Dan just said. We may not know everything right now. I'm just saying if people are telling you that right now they should have a reason for saying it. Ask them why. I can tell you why its not going past 12/31. I can tell you exactly why it makes sense.
GARY STATES - if you start looking at docs like Viper brought to today, a memorandum negotiated. It says here is the plan. Dr. T always said look for the docs, treaties, agreements. Can always be minor adjustments but if you don't have those you're shooting at it blind. Last year this time they had chapter 7 in place........all of a sudden....we look at it and it is not done. We are not always aware of every detail of what is going on. More realistic now, getting closer, we are really close. Everything is pointing to this reality.
Caller Asks - Erbil agreement, someone said done yesterday???
TONY STATES - an article came out last wk said agreement reached on Erbil. That's what we're looking for. It said the 28th. People called and said you can't talk about this. I said the article says the 28th! What do you mean we can't talk about it? We were waiting for it to be announced today. Some said they saw it on Fox news. I didn't see it. We have people over there b/c it was supposed to be announced today. Hearing over 1/2 of what was to be completed was done yesterday. Maybe late today, or tomorrow, but we should hear those announcements. Got a call out of DC that we should see it today.