Footforward Tues. Night 11-6-12 on the Big call- RECORDED 1-559-726-1159 123456# PIN
laurelei: Great quote of the day: It is not enough to have a good mind, the main thing is to use it well. ~ Descartes
[bailey2..] GOD BLESS AMERICA..LAND THAT I LOVE,STAND BESIDE HER, AND GUIDE HER IN THE NIGHT WITH A LIGHT FROM ABOVE!FROM THE MOUNTAINS THROUGH THE PRARIES TO THE OCEAN WHITE WITH FOAM....GOD BLES AMERICA , MY HOME SWEET HOME....GOD BLESS AMERICA MY HOME SWEET HOME!!!!!!
bouv] Lee Greenwood-God Bless the USA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q65KZIqay4E
Tues: Late Night
[cruiser] Good evening all. Well here is the good part. The formality of the election is out of the way and nothing changed. The U.S will still have a debt problem. The Fiscal Cliff will be something that really needs to be addressed. NOW!! Europe is sinking, since Germany is now heading into a recession. Japan is Broke. China is running out of money. I think there is still a problem and it needs to be corrected NOW!!!
[cruiser] Greece has a vote tomorrow. Whoever wins will decide on whether of not they stay in the Euro.
[TLane] cruiser Who do we want to win?
[cruiser] TLane Which ever gets us paid quicker.
[TLane] cruiser Amen
[Canadinar] cruiser anyone who thought the RV might be being held until Romney's inauguration on January 20 doesn't have THAT delay argument left! Might this have any effect on the RV's timing?
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[cruiser] Canadinar do not know
[Looking4arvie06] cruiser since Obama has won again, what does this mean for our RV
[cruiser] Looking4arvie06 it means that he is the U.S . President for the next 4 years. Do not think it does anything for the rv. I think the formality of the election was more important. Now it is time to move on and prosper as a nation. Fix the problems that need fixing and stop all of the BS.
[barb] cruiser we will be able to do some real things to help this country soon, this bickering is driving me nuts. positive work to be done and we are going to be the ones to do it!
[cruiser] barb This country needs this just as bad as we do. Actually the World needs this as bad as we do. Nothing has changed. There are alot of good people invested and will do unbelievable things with their profits.
[flashing] Baghdad (AIN) –MP, Emad Yohana, the member of the Parliamentary Foreign Affairs Committee, described the winning of, Willard Mitt Romney, the Republican Party's for President of the United States in the 2012 election as "Useful to Iraq." He stated to All Iraq News Agency (AIN)
[flashing] "The Current US President, Barrack Obama, did not support Iraq in his policy in addition to his non-adherence to the application of the terms of the Strategic Pact between Iraq and the USA." "If Romney wins the US elections, the Republican Party will support the foreign policy of Iraq," he concluded. It is worth mentioning that the US elections started on Tuesday the 6th of November where the current US President, Barrack Obama the nominee of the Democratic Party competes with Romney. /End/
[sananddan24] flashing so this is the hold up
[flashing] Baghdad (AIN) –MP, Jawad al-Hasnawi, of Ahrar bloc assured that America seeks limiting the regional role and interests of Iraq. He stated to All Iraq News Agency (AIN) "The restrictions are not imposed only by Kuwait rather there are hidden restrictions imposed against Iraq by other Arabic countries." "America calls for relieving Iraq from the 7th Chapter of UN Charter but again it contradicts itself by calling to keep Iraq under this Chapter," he added. "Iraq will remain under this Chapter by the US support which is based on a wide-range perspective," he concluded. /End/
[SGD3] gm all flashing Not sure what this means- Can you explain?
[ctgal] flashing. Maybe now that he has been re-elected and a 43 percent capital gains tax and increased income tax on the rich, he will ok it
[flashing] ctgal i have my doubts
[ctgal] Flashing. Then we are screwed
[best1154] flashing doubts that he will ok it, or the 43per cent, i personally have doubts that he will okay it
[cllishof] So now we think its Obama holding the show up
[SGD3] best1154 Where has this 43% come from.
[best1154] capital gains tax new in jan 2013
[SGD3] best1154 intel or fact?
[~healthy3] cllishof I thought everyone said O wasn't the holdup
[best1154] i believe fact
[flashing] best1154 i don't know what the hidden agenda is.
best1154] fact all taxes are going up in 2013, all bush tax cuts done away with. capital gains going up
[Jeff] best1154 that is not fact yet. They are scheduled to go up that is taxes. I believe the fiscal cliff which you elude to will be avoided
[ctgal] Jeff. Why?
[Jeff] ctgal because there is no way capital gains and dividend taxes with double triple in a down economy; the CBO has plainly stated that the fiscal cliff will cause an immediate recession if not stalled or stopped or remanded etc.
[SGD3] best1154 I just googled it-2013 Capital gains, nothing yet about 43%. we can keep hoping its not fact
[Jeff] SGD3 that was a projected number by the CBO
[SGD3] Jeff CBO?
[ctgal] Exactly. But it is also an easy way to level the playing field, a main objective in the platform
[Jeff] SGD3 congressional budget office
[SGD3] Jeff thanks
[kenbo] U cant elevate the wage earner by bringing dow the wage payer
[Jeff] ctgal so we strip the wealthy of all their money through investment taxation at unbelieveably high rates and take away your deductions and increase your taxes through healthcare reform and this levels the playing field?
[kenbo] Jeff even adding 3% tax to real estate sales
[ctgal] Jeff. It is not right. Beyond belief that it is espoused. Yet, it is what our president supports.
[flashing] by the way those posts came from Iraq . not my opinion. just want to clarify that .
[kenbo] We are past the tax rate that spawned our revolution
[Jeff] Josey Wales yep
[kenbo] U r right josey
[moonchild] ctgal in order to level the playing field you would need to make all people of equal competence and equal willingness to work. Since people are not equal and never can be, there can and should be no level playing field. All you will do is lower everyone to the lowest common denominator
[xyz] China, US, Europe battling over a shrinking global-trade pie http://latimesblogs.lati ··· pie.html In polite, diplomatic language, China this week accused Eurozone leaders of piling up debts that threaten a global economic crisis, and the Europeans countered with complaints that Beijing manipulates its currency to unfairly skew trade in its favor. http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/world_now/2012/11/china-us-europe-struggling-to-divide-a-shrinking-trade-pie.html