THE NEW PLAN AND WHAT IS THE END GAME? TNman From TNT
I have wondered many times whether “common sense” is a blessing or a curse. When you have little to no common sense, you just accept things for their face value and go about your merry way. Those of us that have common sense have a way of saying this just does not seem right, let’s think about it.
I have also always been blessed with an excellent memory. However, at the age of 77, my memory is not as sharp as it used to be but still pretty good.
Now to the meat of this post…here is what I think the “new” game is but what I don’t know is the answer to the question, “what is the end game”. Even though it is a new game, it is still the same game that we have been playing.
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So now, the UST is virtually out of the picture. The IMF and the BIS have taken over and have decided to activate the World Currency Reset (WCR).
It is my understanding that if the UST had stayed in control that they could have and would have been able to activate the WCR all around the world simultaneously. BANG! It’s done!
Now we have the report that the IMF and the BIS is releasing this a few countries at a time. This is known as Plan B. You will remember that there were problems with the Plan A system so they developed another parallel system more or less as a back-up. As I recall, it was admitted that the Plan B system was not as good as the Plan A system but could be used in a pinch.
First, let me say that I am a novice when it comes to finance and the workings thereof but I don’t think for one second that you can release any currency anywhere and make it international for selected countries and not release it all over the world. That just does not make sense to my common sense.
If I can buy dinar at 1166 in the US and fly to some Middle East country and exchange for big bucks, that is what I would do. I am not alone in this thought. I see the boards. There are more and more talking about catching a flight and heading to the Middle East.
Just for arguments sake, let’s forget about the fact that you may have to have residency etc., we may even be able to go to Canada. Suddenly, the skies are going to be filled with planes going back and forth ferrying people with suitcases full of dinar. Now who does that makes sense to?
The very next thing you are going to hear when you ask the question, “where are the 800 numbers” is that the IMF had a problem with XYZ country and everything has been put on a 48 hour to 72 hour hold while they get this problem cleared up. This is the same game but a different way of playing the game. This game will continue.
Now for those of you that are ready to pounce and I can see you…there are numerous ready to pounce, just remember this: There are 196, plus or minus countries that will have the dinar and dong activated.
The IMF is releasing a few at a time. If, just one time out of all of those countries, the IMF says whoops, we must put a hold on the process, I will have been correct and it will negate any counter remarks that you may have espoused.
What I don’t know and what I really want to know is what is the “end game”?
What is the UST, IMF and the BIS really trying to accomplish? Why would they intentionally delay, delay, delay? What is the gain for them? What are they trying to avoid? What are they trying to put in place?
Does it really have to do with us or do they have some other nefarious plan in mind? That is really what we want to know, what is the end game?
If you have a speck of common sense, you can smell it all the way to the US. Something is rotten in Denmark. All of this just does not add up. You may have read what I posted before about my potential wealth manager. I say potential because I have not the RV money yet.
I have known him for over two years. He and I have talked many times about this. He is a senior wealth manager in one of the 5 banks that have been listed. He is also the person within this bank office that is responsible for the currency.
He says there is no call center. He says there is no special security being put in place. He says he has heard absolutely nothing about all of this and he says that none of his banker buddies from other banks have heard of this either.
I accused him of having signed a non-disclosure agreement or that he knew less than the tellers. He said neither is true.
We heard that the UST was ready, they wanted to get this money into the economy by Black Friday. Black Friday came and went. We heard that they really wanted to have a great 4th quarter for the economy but here we are, on the 21st of December with just a few days of shopping time left. What is the End Game?
We hear this is a massive project and it takes time. OK, they have had 10 years but more importantly, how many times have we heard that everything is done, done, done and all systems have been checked out and are ready and the call centers are staffed and the exchange centers are staffed and the extra security is in place and they have been told that they will be working long hours and weekends just to be told that the 800 numbers will be coming and they not ever arrive? What is the End Game?
I will most certainly be accused of being negative and disgruntled. Perhaps there is a smidgen of truth in that accusation.
However, let me say that I have been in this for five years and there has not been a stronger defender of the fact that this RV will happen. I still believe that it will but things just do not add up.
I think if there had been an international revaluation in Iraq, that we would have seen at least a few written articles out of Iraq alluding to that fact. They obviously are not keeping it a secret if they are announcing it on their TVs.
Why was there this sudden change from these several countries being released to exchange the dinar to, no, it was released to the Central Banks in those countries? How convenient that the UST asked some of our “friendly countries” to hold off for 48 hours? That 48 hours is long gone! Things just don’t add up. What is the End Game?
It has been reported that the UST people are happier than a hump-back camel on Wednesday because the IMF and the BIS has taken this over and they proclaimed to the IMF that they are ready, go ahead and release anytime they wish.
Why did they ask for a 48 hour delay if they are so happy? Why have we been told over and over that this can happen at any second, any minute and yet nothing happens. What is the End Game?
All I want is the truth. I am fearful that they are fearful, fearful of the consequences of telling the truth, whatever that may be. They have backed themselves into a corner and they have no idea how to extricate themselves so they continue with this farce, even though they know there will be a day of truth on the horizon.
We have gotten to the point where it is very easy to prove or disprove the information that is being brought forth. The truth will out and perhaps then we will know the End Game.
You may be as negative or as positive as you wish regarding this post but remember two things. First, I am just in search of the truth and secondly, if the IMF does just one 48 hour delay because something didn’t work correctly, it proves my hypothesis.
Tndr: Thank you for your thought provoking post.
Anytime one invests in a speculative venture it is my opinion that unknowns will be a large part of it. The info we gather here is a support of our speculation.
The "end game" you ask of is a good question. The way I see this ride is that this is not something we have ever seen before (GCR) and may never see again.
With that it would be a process that is not "canned" or able to be put in a box...whatever analogy one can use that means, in my opinion, the uniqueness of this event means there is no reasoning that matches what we may be used to.
The truth is on the horizon....as you mention.m
Kathy1: I can see your logic. That's what I would like to know as well. 'They' know we watch this board like a hawk and follow chat as much as we can stand to try to figure out "when". So what is their answer: More waiting. Too close to Christmas at this point because of all the travelling, so what else has to be done first?
Like Tony and the team, I have faith in my 'knower' that the IQN will revalue. Now is not the time to lose faith but to stand firm. But, oh, the damage the 'government' has done to our belief system. Evidently, the IMF can be no more trusted than the US government. I am not anti-government or anti-country, but neither am I the innocent I was before this ride started.
Northcom: Thanks for your analysis, it's fine w/me if you step out on a limb, many of us are doing just that. I agree something is up and it's not going to end well for the community of investors I'm afraid.
My thought was that the PTB's/Bankers ect have used the past couple of years to milk this GCR event to cash out multiple times over the past years. We've all read in the archives at dinarrecaps and other sites that there have been other occasions that cash outs were reported.
It's all about the money and the power, I think. Just my stab at it and that's my opinion and I wait to see just like the rest of you what the real END GAME is...
P.S. My biggest question if this isn't going to happen is, why did the script go the way of painting themselves into a corner like they have, there's really no way out of this for "them". I wish all members a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year! We wait. TY
Spiritlife: Excellent post. I share your questioning of the whole scenario. But I am from the CMKX end of this and only got interested in Dinar when Al Hodges said the CMKX payout would be released when the Dinar revalued.
It is all very strange indeed. But there are so many smart people here. You wonder how we could all be so fooled so completely.
I think it has something to do with the internet. And the fact that we desperately want to believe these wonderful things we hear... and read.
Ttillman7: TNman . . . . . . . it took a lot of heart (no pun intended) to post what you did. Many of us are pondering similar things. Be encouraged . . . . they know that we are no longer just believing anything that is spoken.
Snocap71: Your post is absolutely spot on. Yes, I also would like to know what is the end game. I also want to know the truth and I do believe like you that the plan was originally to revalue their money but now I'm not so sure.
I think the clock is winding down and that like you say they have backed themselves into a corner. I think they now are going to have 5Million very angry people on their hands and now don't know how to defuse this bomb. I know i am not a happier camper and have nothing right now but disdain for the people running our country.
Ammmonite: TNman - thank you. You have articulated my thoughts on where we stand, exactly. I still believe that at some point a currency RV will occur.
But, like you, my common sense has kicked in throughout this process (occasionally overshadowed by a finely honed willing suspension of disbelief) and I now find myself asking your same question - what is the End Game?
Collins28: TNman -- excellent job on your post -- for 77 your mind is tack sharp and echos what a lot of us feel.
I want this RV to happen just like millions of Americans want it to happen. But i feel that we will still be waiting the first of the year.
I can wait until then but I would rather have a green Christmas ($) -- I agree with you that this RV will happen I just hope sooner than later. Thanks again for your time and great post and happy holidays Go RV
Bunnsarelli: What I don’t know and what I really want to know is what is the “end game”? What is the UST, IMF and the BIS really trying to accomplish? Why would they intentionally delay, delay, delay? What is the gain for them?
What are they trying to avoid? What are they trying to put in place? Does it really have to do with us or do they have some other nefarious plan in mind? That is really what we want to know, what is the end game?
My question to further your line of thinking here is what do they whoever "they" are gain by feeding this neverending poison river of information to us? How long is a practical joke funny? Is a week enough?
A month? Months on end??? Certainly not as many months as we have endured. The person who told me about this event insists they just enjoy keeping people defeated within themeselves and dependent like sheep. I offer that aren't people in this year 2013 defeated enough? When is enough enough in their "end game?"
As for the plans A, B .......must be Z by now.... This is a change in currency value. Something that happens every day in the history of the forex market. Nothing new. Not rocket science. Update the numbers and exchange. Why is this process being told that it is DIFFERENT THAN IT HAS EVER BEEN?
I get the CE is different, masses of people and masses of money. You there in charge, call the people in that you have records of purchasing these known currencies and let the rest of the chips fall where they may. A mountain needs not be built from a mole hill here.
We, the people of these United States need this. We, the people of this earth need this. This economical spiral down the drain is sucking the life out of people everywhere. An RV seems to be the best way to radically change that scenario.
Thank you TNman for sparking my own thoughts so that I could get them out of my head. I appreciate your effort here. We will see this. If I doubted that, I never would have invested in the first place.
America doesn't need to lose one more ounce of hope nor faith in their government and this is exponentiating on a daily basis. We will see this.
TNman: Thank you for your comments. I see one common thread on the various posts that I have read. We the people are fed up with the BS that we are being fed. It really has a very bad taste. Don't take me wrong here, I'm not saying Tony is directly feeding us the BS.
What baffles me is that I can tell that Tony is a very smart man. Why does he continue to pass on the carp that they keep telling him and what is their game for doing so. I do so hope that they don't have some hold on Tony and forcing him to do something that he wouldn't otherwise do.
Meleana: loha TNman, Wow! You have excellent 'CS' (common sense) as my Auntie Grace would say. NO, I don't think you are being negative asking questions that we all would like to know answers to. END GAME?
It's true, they have played the GAME so long maybe they don't have an END and will just bounce the ball more to see where it lands then say, "END GAME"?
There are 186 countries that are UN members. However, we are hearing there are 198 and a few more added to increase it to 203(?) now involved in the GCR. How can the IMF have the authority to deal with the other countries if they aren't a part of the UN or IMF?
"It is a specialized agency of the United Nations and is run by its 186 member countries. Membership is open to any country that conducts foreign policy and accepts the organization's statutes." How will that affect the Revaluation/Currency Exchange of the Iraqi Dinar? END GAME?
The controversy of exchanging for the Elite at the higher rate versus exchanging for the non-elite (Dinarian holders - general public) at the lower rate is certainly favoritism and discrimination.
We're all glad there were those with a conscious that helped others see what was being done was absolutely unfair and needed to be fair to all involved. Now with us being equal in the Exchange rate but only for a limited time, it is what it is. END GAME?
Time has been on the PTB side for 10+ years to roll out their plan. Question is WHAT IS THEIR PLAN? When will they end all of the delays and stop with the excuses to let Iraq get on with being the country they can and will be?
All of the other countries that will be involved in the GCR are all hinged on the RV/CE of the Iraqi Dinar and are in dire need of things to happen and end soon. END GAME?
Not only other countries involved are tired of waiting, but we have people in our own backyard/country that have suffered tremendously, foreclosure, loss of job, financial hardship, loss of spouse/family member, etc.
Some have endured this roller coaster ride for 10 years while others are newbies 3-6 months. What is the real plan to get it finished? END GAME?
We are on a time clock and the only ones that know what it's set to is the IMF and BIS! When did they set the alarm to go off is the big Question? END GAME?
HAPPY CE DAY! Our time is near.... it's the final curtain! END GAME? GAME OVER!!!
Wishing each and everyone of you MELE KALIKIMAKA - MERRY CHRISTMAS...
Luckycharm8: This has been my exact question for over a year now. What is their end game????? They keep painting themselves into a smaller and smaller corner with no way out, there has to be some reason.
I've become disenchanted over this entire process for so many reasons. They think we are not able to think for ourselves, they also keep telling us everything is done, it is over, but nothing happens.
Yes, I understand that this RV has become part of a bigger picture, but then they tell us that we could not possibly understand the complexity of what they are accomplishing which is designed to keep us quiet while they do whatever they are doing.
Well, I say they don't understand it either, they certainly can't get to the point of getting it completed, unless that is their intent. Not to mention the sheer audacity of paying out the elite and leaving us to grovel while we wait for any crumb they choose to throw at us is getting very debilitating.
Since the UST now gave up control to the IMF and they were supposed to do it yesterday then what is the excuse now? Was this just another misdirection by the UST and they are still really in control and still holding things up for their own reasons.
Now that we are at Dec 21st and only a few days left to shop I would be very surprised to see the RV before the end of the year, so here we sit again waiting for a drop dead deadline that everyone was sure we couldn't go past while it whizzes past us.
Which brings up another point, the IMF is not going to be at full work force this close to Christmas, they will not be coming back to work until after the first of the year.
What about the UST??? Did they get to go home for Christmas??? Could this hand over of power from UST to IMF have anything to do with them wanting to go home for Christmas???
There are certainly more questions than answers. Apparently the government doesn't believe in telling us the truth anymore. We will eventually find out the truth, the question is: how long will we have to wait? What is their end game?
IshMan wrote: What if "we" are the end game, & the objective as simple as a worldwide stimulus of every sector of the world's markets? Frankly, a brilliant solution.
TNman: Ishman, That has crossed my mind. What if the end game is to get us to buy as many dinars as there are dinars. If that if the purpose, it is working well.
I quit the reserve game last year when time after time when it was stated that the RV was happening tomorrow, tomorrow, tomorrow.
The one thing I can't figure is how does the UST will get their hands on our dinars if they don't RV. The only other that this will help, other than the dealers, would be Iraq. They are selling toilet paper for nothing and get money in return.