[wisewarrior] HOLY BACON BATMAN i'm reading chat wimp's class........it is awesome! want a taste?
[heartfelt] wisewarrior bring it!
[wisewarrior] In 2008, when I decided that I needed to do more than just vote I began to work with a group of belonging to Campaign For Liberty (C4L). One of the group, LC for short, was talking about “lawful” money. And, as the FBI maxim goes,: “Follow the Money” would seem to be the place to start.
[wisewarrior] The fall of the great nations of the world have always been preceded by debasement of their nation’s money. “A false balance is abomination to the LORD: but a just weight is his delight.” Proverbs 11:1, King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
[wisewarrior] When money was “honest” these nations thrived; when it was debased they fell. Our founders were very literate and knew this well and were aware of the “fiat” money of the “old world” banking systems that kept the people in poverty and virtual slavery even if not outright slavery.
[wisewarrior] Jefferson hated central banks and resisted their establishment in America because he knew what “evils” they wreaked upon the people’s money. As it turned out he was more than just correct for we are now the recipient of that which he had feared … our money has been debased and the wealth of the people of our nation stolen by the international banking cartels.
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[goin4broke] wisewarrior good find thanks.
[wisewarrior] this is coming from chat wimp and CL his teacher
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[wisewarrior] The Constitution says in Article I, Section 10, Clause 1: “No State shall enter into any Treaty, Alliance, or Confederation; grant Letters of Marque and Reprisal; coin Money; emit Bills of Credit; make any Thing but gold and silver Coin a Tender in Payment of Debts; pass any Bill of Attainder, ex post facto Law, or Law impairing the Obligation of Contracts, or grant any Title of Nobility.”
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[wisewarrior] With their capitalization of thing, Thing, they are specifying that among the body of ALL things only gold and coin is a tender in payment of debts. Remember this was a time when States were powerful and the United States was only a 10 mile by 10 mile square with Constitutionally limited powers. (Oh, how I long for those times again).
[wisewarrior] it'll be in the 3sforum and i can bring it here and it'll be on recaps
FIAT FRAUD LAWFUL MONEY & THE REPUBLIC VS THE CORPORATION CLASSROOM CHAT AT 3sintel.info chatroom Thursday 8 pm Eastern Time
[wisewarrior] it's a class in chat=with live q&a Tonight at 3sintel at 8PM EST
[wisewarrior] ok skipping ahead
[wisewarrior] “The Federal Reserve Act of 1913” (GOOGLE it) and will be referred to as the ACT was a major step forward for the international bankers and their “fiat” money. It was passed into law (unlawfully) on December 23, 1913 (anything about that date sound a little “off”?). That same year, 1913 the 16th Amendment was ratified (unlawfully) and the 17th Amendment was ratified (?unlawfully?). Now the groundwork had been lain.
[wisewarrior] you can blame me it was my idea based on the judge dale post from a week back.....
[wisewarrior] The FRNs were PRIVATE money with different conditions, “adhesion contracts”, attached to the use of FRNs that the people were not privy to …. a “usage” fee (there is no usage fee for PUBLIC money; “LAWFUL” money is NOT taxed!)
[wisewarrior] The people were encouraged by our Government to use FRNs as opposed to US Notes (Why not if it’s a “good” thing?). There was a remedy for the fraud if one actually read the ACT and it was found in Chapter 16 that allowed one to exchange FRNs for “lawful” money and be free of the tax burden (if one knew about it). This same provision was codified in United States Code Title 12 Chapter 3, Subchapter XII, Section 411 (12 USC 411) word for word! From Chapter 16 of the ACT …
[wisewarrior] … The punishment for an institution failing to exchange FRNs for LAWFUL money in 12 USC 501a?. There IS a lot of controversy about which US Codes were actually given the status of LAW but the exchange requirement was written into the actual ACT
[wisewarrior] Once we went off of the metal standard the wording was changed to exchange FRNs into US Dollars (so much for “just measures”) a US Dollar was anything the government said it was but it still had value (operated on the right-hand side of the ledger sheet). FRNs have no value and can only relieve debt (operate on the left-hand side of the ledger sheet). One “silver” Mercury dime has more “real” value than a 3 inch stack of 100 Dollar FRNs.
[rango123] wisewarrior this info is absoolutely correct
[wisewarrior] skipping ahead
[wisewarrior] So, what is the difference between: “lawful;”legal” and the “color of law”? If something is claimed to be a “law” and does NOT violate the Constitution it is “lawful” and therefore considered to be a “law”and may be enforced as a “law”. If something is claimed to be a “law” but violates our Constitution then it is NO law at all and carries only the “color of law” and should not be enforced need not be complied with should enforcement be attempted..
[wisewarrior] “… the Lord rejoices in a just measure”. It was the Treasury’s responsibility to “mint” coins of gold or silver of standard weights to insure the reliability of the money. It is not and has not always been so throughout the history of commerce.
[wisewarrior] During the Civil War Abraham Lincoln printed money much like the Federal Reserve does today. The “bankers” had wanted him to borrow money for the war from them at some exorbitant rate of interest. So Lincoln just printed money devaluing the existing money by increasing the money supply; no taxes, no interest and when the war was over there was no residual debt … just inflation and a weaker money.
[wisewarrior] The unlawfully ratified 4th Amendment created the United States Corporation which was finalized in 1871. The Federal Reserve, a cabal of private banks, was created in 1913 by the Federal Reserve Act of 1913. It allowed the printing of a “fiat” currency supposedly to control “swings” of inflation and deflation by virtue of changes in the money supply. It was passed on December 23, 1913 (hmmmm?) It also happens that the 16th Amendment was, most likely unlawfully, signed into law in 1913 and the 17th Amendment, 1913 as well.
[wisewarrior] uh oh i think he meant 14th …. yup 14th
[rango123] and no judge will tell you that a charge can be paid frns its not legal tender, words have meanimgs in a legal dictionary verses a lawful one
[rango123] different meanings in a legal ...
[wisewarrior] rango123 yup
[wisewarrior] The Federal Reserve Note, a fiat currency, was supposed to exist side-by-side with US notes which were represented by gold and silver. The people were encouraged to use the “new” Federal Reserve Notes. When one uses FRNs one incurs an “adhesion contract” that requires one to pay tax including income tax by virtue of using the FRN, a usage tax.
[rango123] the debt cannot be paid down with more taxes because they are iou's
[wisewarrior] Since FRNs were/are fiat currency there had to be a “remedy”. That “remedy” was written into Chapter 16 of the Act. Later that “remedy” was written into Title 12 United States Code Section 411 word-for-word. … However it appears that Title 12 was never codified into law!
[wisewarrior] rango123 you're gunna love this class