_11:46 AM [BGG] leonardo - exactly - if you read a news feed controlled by Maliki - theres either very little mention of him or he's in the drivers seat. If you read one of the independent ones - he gets grilled every other article!!
11:47 AM [phase2] rileyjones I think RK said somewhere around last Sunday!!
11:47 AM [BGG] speaking of which - could someone find the google news feed with something like Shataaq.com or Shafaaq.com?? in the title?? That is a really good feed!!
11:47 AM [phase2] Trying to put a little more humor in this confusion of mine!!
11:48 AM [BGG] phase2 - I don't think RK said that...
11:48 AM [leonardo] BGG Indeed. Trying to get accurate "news" from there to here is like trying to send a haircut through the mail. You just have to be there for some things.
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_11:49 AM [OfCourse13] leonardo Never heard that one
11:50 AM [leonardo] OfCourse13 It's an oldie, but goodie. Kind of like some of us.
11:50 AM [OfCourse13] leonardo I resemble that remark
11:52 AM [rileyjones] NEWS "Financial": Approval to increase all budget allocations for all other than the required percentages http://www.dinarupdates. ··· post2920
11:53 AM [phase2] leonardo Yeh, that's a good one! Makes more sense to me than the articles!!
11:53 AM [rileyjones] BGG That is from your favorite site
11:56 AM [OfCourse13] Did you notice the last paragraph starts with: The Iraqi government has approved the federal budget for 2012 AND ends with: the House of Representatives in is not able so far to approve the budget
11:57 AM [phase2] OfCourse13 Right on course for more confusion!
11:57 AM [BGG] I knew they had something on Maliki - but I couldn't figure out want it was....looks like this is one of the things they have on Maliki - and this may very well work...
11:57 AM [BGG] They are going to prosecute him for not bringing Al-Heshemi to justice 3 years ago and saving countless Iraqi lives. As the Commander in Chief it was his responsibility to bring this to light (or as an ordinary Iraqi citizen) - if you knew - they can prosecute under the same terrorism statue.
11:57 AM [BGG] http://translate.google. ··· d%3D1539
11:58 AM [BGG] He admitted he knew on Iraqi Television - I think he either lays off Al-Heshemi and gets with the program or his goose is cooked.
1:34 PM [anytimenow] things are being delayed either way
1:34 PM [DOUBLE B] personally, I do not want to start over
1:40 PM [Dinarnewbie] When will his term be over?
1:52 PM [anytimenow] BAGHDAD — Prime Minister Nuri Kamal al-Maliki said Saturday that he would not seek re-election as leader of the Iraqi government after his current term ends in 2014.
1:52 PM [anytimenow] so his term is up in 2014
1:56 PM [Dinarnewbie] anytimenow thanks
1:57 PM [anytimenow] your very welcome
phase2 I remember seeing that a few weeks ago and no mention since. Now brought up again in news. Interesting.
2:44 PM [BGG] anytimenow - Of course not, he'll be lucky if he live through this one!!
2:45 PM [BGG] BAGHDAD / As said an MP for the Kurdistan Alliance, but Talabani, on Sunday, said: "holding the Arab summit in Baghdad will be delayed in case of postponement of the upcoming national meeting.
" Talabani added to the reporter and the news agency said the future: "the Arab summit in Baghdad will not be held if the political blocs have not reached a solution to their differences through the upcoming national meeting."
Noting that: "the political blocs if they wish to host Iraq for the Arab summit, it should continue its efforts to speed up the national meeting held during this period:" They confirmed the need for the "political blocs agree on a consolidated working paper before the national meeting was held to be a guarantee of success."
2:46 PM [vision] I was expecting this board to look different today -
2:46 PM [BGG] So Talibani is basically saying - if you don't get your act together he will postpone the whole Arab Summit. That would really be a blow to their Arab egos!!
2:47 PM [h-spot] BGG do you think it will work?
2:47 PM [BGG] h-spot - Sooner or later - yes. Maliki is sitting on a ticking time-bomb and he knows it.
2:48 PM [h-spot] if the do postpone it, I wonder how long of a wait until the next arab summit is scheduled. Hopefully not another year
2:48 PM [BGG] They have more than enough for a No Confidence vote. If it comes to that it will be like a 10 point indictment but the point I mentioned earlier will be at the head of the list...
2:50 PM [mona lisa] BGG love Talabani's stand on that
2:50 PM [BGG] This doesn't sound like they got the National Meeting set yet - but don't let that worry you - still lots of good news...
Erbil / With: A source familiar with the Kurdistan Alliance Sunday evening that the political blocs have not reached until the moment a consensus on the paper strips, political supposed to be discussed in the forthcoming National Meeting.
The source told the correspondent of news agency said the future: "Preparatory Committee meeting held on Sunday evening did not lead to a political consensus between the blocks on a single sheet containing all the demands of political blocs.
" He added that "several major differences between the Iraqi List and the National Alliance is the basis of disability in the formulation of policy paper," noting that "the Kurdistan Alliance and the National Alliance are the closest in its demands, despite Thvd Kurdistan on some paper items and the National Alliance.
" The Preparatory Committee held the National Forum for its fourth meeting on Sunday evening at the residence of Vice President of the Republic Khodair al.
2:51 PM [BGG] But the above article shows how urgent they are pushing to get the National Council to happen (the start of good things for us).
2:51 PM [BGG] and - Like I said earlier - one way or the other Maliki will have to play ball.
2:52 PM [david7] Bgg if Maliki has to play ball are there any trigger points that he needs to play ball by a certain time?
2:52 PM [mona lisa] and I really like this "the Kurdistan Alliance and the National Alliance are the closest in its demands" ... they are inching ever closer toward a solution
2:54 PM [BGG] david7 - Not really - if he farts around too long they will get sick of him and pull the plug...
2:55 PM [BGG] He will be prosecuted under Iraqi terrorism statue as well as Al-Hashimi...ironic - huh??
2:56 PM [BGG] He tries to "jack" his political rivals and gets caught up in the snare he set for others -
2:56 PM [david7] Bgg it appears as though the ME budget of march 1st and the Arab summit march 27-29 would give a sense of urgency. Do u agree?
2:56 PM [BGG] david7 - I do .
2:57 PM [mona lisa] Maliki: darned if ya do, darned if ya don't ... pick one!!
2:59 PM [BGG] He admitted on Iraqi TV that he knew about the security files for 3 years and withheld justice...and now he's just getting "around to it"...under Iraqi terrorism statue - if you knew about it and did nothing you can be tried as an accessory. You're just as guilty!!
2:59 PM [BGG] His goose is cooked.
3:01 PM [BGG] In fact, it is highly likely that this getting out in the public eye is the beginning of the end for him. They have already asked the Arab League to step in and pressure him to resign peacefully. I look for him to get all kinds of nice or not be around much longer.
3:02 PM [h-spot] BGG if he resigns before an rv, will it take much longer to get this accomplished?
3:02 PM [h-spot] maybe shabs will pull the trigger IF M resigns?
3:02 PM [BGG] Not long - he has been the main hold-up to a fully formed and functioning GOI.
3:03 PM [BGG] They will immediately hold a National Council - come to an agreement, and find the functioning middle ground they've been after for so long.
3:04 PM [h-spot] wow...we were all just wanting them to pick a PM back in Dec 2010, and thought that was the beginning of the rv for us. Little did we know, if they would have just picked Talabani(?)(or whomever he ran against), we most likely would have had our rv already.......
3:04 PM [BGG] VP Mutlag had it right all along - this guy is an "unbridled" blue collared thug!!
3:04 PM [david7] Bgg Did u c the law in the gazette? Don't know the crime but it was 2 years or 200 dinar. Hummm two years or 27.00????? Wonder if this is a prelude to an RV?
3:04 PM [mona lisa] I would think they already have someone in mind to replace him and on down the line if needed ... they are probably as impatient as anyone that he is holding this up.
3:05 PM [BGG] mona lisa - exactly - they already know who it will be.
3:06 PM [mona lisa] david7 I'll take Prelude for $27, Alex
3:06 PM [BGG] david7 - No one has seen the Gazette - it's an internal legal Journal and is no longer available to the general public...as of a year ago??
3:06 PM [h-spot] BGG do you think that if the other guy won the PM position in late 2010,whop was it...talabani(?)do you think the rv would have already occured?
3:07 PM [BGG] h-spot - Without question - and you have Iran to thank for that.
3:07 PM [h-spot] yea........
3:07 PM [BGG] If you were wondering just how bad they are for the region...
3:07 PM [h-spot] Is M Iranian?
3:08 PM [BGG] and are dreaming up reasons to support the current adminstration's bull _ _ _ _ foreign policy.
3:09 PM [BGG] h-spot - No - but he is of similar muslim denomination - which is lots more important than a pesky border.
3:09 PM [h-spot] gotcha
3:09 PM [BGG] newmonies just sent me this - Preparatory Committee concludes its meeting to meet again on Tuesday 19/02/2012 22:11:00
3:10 PM [BGG] Which means they are projecting another preparatory meeting on Tuesday...they seem to be pushing for it...
3:10 PM [h-spot] Tuesday is the 21st .......
3:10 PM [h-spot] not the 19th
3:10 PM [BGG] h-spot - article dated today.
3:10 PM [h-spot] ok
Al-Maliki was born in Janaja village in Abu Gharaq, a central Iraqi town situated between Karbala and Al Hillah. He is a member of the Al-Ali Tribe, an offshoot of the Bani Malik tribe.
3:12 PM [h-spot] was the meeting supposed to be today, then postponed, and now decided on tuesday?
3:12 PM [mona lisa] BGG good they're pushing ... looks like Monopoloy Night for the rest of us plenty of time for a long boring game
3:12 PM [mona lisa] thx ghost!
3:41 PM [jam777] There were frequent comments from members of the Preparatory Committee for the postponement of the National Congress until after the Arab Summit in Baghdad at the end of next month.
The Preparatory Committee held its fourth meeting amid an atmosphere of tension, because of downloading the judiciary through the media responsible for the protection of Hashemi 150 armed operation, which prompted the latter to disclose facts waving the charges against him within 48 hours via a letter addressed to the Iraqi people.
3:42 PM [jam777] Member State of Law: National Conference postponed until after the Arab Summit due to face of problems
3:48 PM [david7] Jam777 negotiations on this level aren't milk and cookies. Just look at our own NFL negotiations with players union....
3:49 PM [leonardo] Angry people at a peace meeting. That has to be an oxymoron.
3:50 PM [BGG] jam777 - SLC MP's have been saying that for two days....Talibani told them if that's the case - there won't BE and Arab Summit.
3:50 PM [jam777] david7 NFL folks know they will all be rich and nobody gets any more power regardless .... got shiites, sunnies, and kurds who fight all the time, fighting not only over money, but power too.
3:50 PM [jam777] BGG go Talabani ... regardless... its clear this may take some time.
3:51 PM [BGG] SLC's are saying that because they don't have any other play - their guy is about to be removed by the Arab League.
3:51 PM [BGG] jam777 - I don't agree. Last final minutes of the game are the most exciting...
3:52 PM [jam777] BGG well if thats the case ... we need a major confrontation done and fruitful ... in the last 2 minute of the game ... the teams cannot leave the field before the game ends .... and they have to be willing to forget about the overtime thing !
3:53 PM [david7] Jam777 the point is people talking trash in the media as a negotiating tool .....
3:53 PM [mrs bgg] BGG i agree
3:54 PM [mrs bgg] BGG About the final minutes of the game being exciting
3:55 PM [jam777] I love major battles ... steelers and cowboys ... immaculate reception kind of stuff ... ready for the highlite films now !
3:55 PM [BGG] In fact, the preparatory meeting for the National Conference went very well today and they have a final review meeting set for Tuesday...while we didn't get a date set in stone for the NC to start - we got the next best thing.
Plus there is the leverage over Maliki "working its way into the open" today...not looking good for the SLC. They are the only ones talking about a delay (which has been their only MO for a year now).
3:58 PM [BGG] jam777 - What you actually had there (good find - by the way) was one SLC MP saying we need to delay till after the Arab Summit and the "mass of the citizens" of the Preparatory Committee saying they would hold meetings everyday in order to "speed things up".
3:59 PM [wealthbytrade] BGG, and what Talabani is saying is there won't be an Arab Summit unless this Natl Mtg gets done...correct?
4:00 PM [BGG] Then Talibani pipes up afterward and says - "if you delay - I'll postpone the Arab Summit all together" - shape up kids, or dad will put you in Arab "time-out". That will go over good - talk about getting a politi-spanking on national television!!
4:01 PM [jam777] BGG actually, I did not post everything ... an entirely different article ... "There were frequent comments from members of the Preparatory Committee for the postponement of the National Congress until after the Arab Summit in Baghdad at the end of next month."
4:02 PM [jam777] o, Talabani is going to have to spank multiple kids
4:02 PM [jam777] who probably dont want to be treated like kids ... and have too much pride
4:03 PM [BGG] jam777 - There won't be an Arab Summit without a National Conference first.
4:03 PM [jam777] So, obviously there has been progress ... a very good thing ... just wish SLC and Maliki would humble themselves and bring an end to this ... then again ... I actually hoped for that about a year ago
4:03 PM [jam777] BGG OK
4:04 PM [wealthbytrade] Maliki is a narcisist. There won't be any humbling on his part
4:04 PM [BGG] I'm thinking if there is an Arab Summit before the NC - the League might remove Maliki for them.
4:05 PM [mona lisa] BGG gitter done
4:05 PM [jam777] BGG one can only hope ... well .... if there is a better alternative
4:05 PM [mona lisa] go Arabs
4:06 PM [BGG] A consortium of Iraqi Lawyers have asked for this to happen - Maliki better make sure he gets a different deal done - because as sure as I'm sitting here, they have Maliki by the shorts on this one....he admitted to his crime openly on Iraqi TV - there is no doubt.
4:07 PM [BGG] If they remove Maliki - it would not shock me to see Talibani as an interim. He is universally liked and could quickly bring some unity to the GOI.
4:07 PM [wealthbytrade] which proves my narcisistic comment. He admits on TV he knew of Hashemi's dealing and did nothing....simply because he thinks nothing can happen to him
4:07 PM [wealthbytrade] I can't wait to see what's next for him
4:07 PM [BGG] I doubt he would run again - but he would be an excellent choice as a "proxy".
4:09 PM [BGG] What I'm saying is he "inadverently" admitted to the crime by saying "I knew about these offenses three years ago and held these security files back"...thereby admitting to breaking the law...
4:09 PM [BGG] openly on Iraqi TV...
4:09 PM [wealthbytrade] I know what you mean BGG. But, that's his mindset
4:10 PM [BGG] I don't knoe if he's that arrogant - but it is ironic he will get caught up in his own "trap".
4:10 PM [wealthbytrade] no doubt!
4:13 PM [mckissm] Ok...in for a glance on my phone.....I am undrrstanding. We've gone from "close" back to "not close" again?
4:14 PM [BGG] mckissm - nope - still close...
4:14 PM [BGG] back to the theme...
4:14 PM [mckissm] Good...was hoping
4:18 PM [BGG] I also find it gleefully ironic that the very day that this started to unravel for Maliki - Obama was supposed to be seen "pal ing" around with him sporting their "toy dogs" together at Fort Bragg and Obama hears about the "fit getting ready to hit the shan" and says "Hey man - I can't be seen with you in public - let alone at Fort Bragg...that just wouldn't be 'appropriate' ". "Will someone get the CIA to escort this guy safely back home? Leon??"
4:19 PM [BGG] You guys are worrying too much - the bomb has already gone off!!
4:21 PM [BGG] They have already picked his replacement...they are just ironing out some details. He might get to stay - but he better get with the program - because the "little red light" is going bonkers right now.
4:22 PM [BGG] OK - I'm out for a bit...
5:01 PM [BGG] Keep our MOD Honugirl in prayer - she wasn't feeling well today. Get better soon Honugirl!!
5:10 PM [BGG] P.S. just to answer this one - it's a pervasive rumor that keeps popping up from time to time - are the Lower Denoms out in the street?? Per my direct CBI contact, there are a very few lower denoms and coins out - but they have not been widely distributed because the RV has not occurred. They are at the CBI locations on pallets, unpacked and ready to be distributed. As of now they have not been - I don't care who tells you they have been. Though it is good news we are seeing pics of them in news articles, etc....they are at least admitting they exist now
5:13 PM [BGG] Heres some more debunking...
5:13 PM [BGG] It has not been "finished and released" - I don't care who told who...
5:14 PM [BGG] No comment on the GS and PP packages...
5:15 PM [BGG] The rates will not be "high" - that's just stupid (and cruel to jerk people around like that)...the rates will have some regional "parity" - bank on it.
5:17 PM [BGG] I highly doubt there are banks calling those "in the know" in to cash-in - but if they are that is entirely their perogative. They can buy whatever they want for whatever amount they want. It only takes two consenting parties.
5:17 PM [BGG] Not a scam to do so...
5:18 PM [BGG] Not wise - but not a scam (probably)...
5:20 PM [BGG] There is no such thing as a "system that can't be stopped" in play - that's _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ (insert adjective of choice ).
5:21 PM [BGG] and this horse hooey about 195 countries all at once is more Disneyland make-up stories. Total fabrication...just to cover their stupid BS intel tracks.
5:24 PM [BGG] The BIS has not released this - it is not at our UST and they are a little ways away on that for now...
5:25 PM [BGG] You all know from my earlier dissertation today where I think we are - and that is real. Not some BS made-for-ratings "rumortel".
5:25 PM [BGG] Better ease up now...
5:26 PM [sappho] BGG The basket of currencies is one if the funniest since there are only 196 countries and many share a currency like the Euro
5:27 PM [ReadytoRetire] BGG I just got in from work and missed your earlier dissertation of where we're at. Will your info be posted on the Forum later?
5:27 PM [BGG] ReadytoRetire - Yup, MODS are working on it right now..
5:27 PM [BGG] Very long...
5:27 PM [ReadytoRetire] BGG TY!