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Jeremy Moore As I continue to read of “the masses”, I keep wondering where these said people reside (perhaps on an MTV set?). Short of my time here, I spend very little time in any virtual world, as I prefer old fashioned face to face conversation or “real world” experiences.
I’ve lived in one of America’s most populated areas, and now in one of its’ least. In my time getting out and actually talking with folks, I quickly realized “the masses” aren’t nearly as stupid as so many talking heads of various internet sites and commenters to those sites would contend.
Just about every talk I have these days leads me into the some form of “distrust talk”. Being one who deals with the public, I don’t see the “masses” nearly as lost as so many who term them self “awakened” do
What people are is afraid of what they can no longer deny. Wouldn’t it be easier and more constructive for those further along to help those not, through this very natural progression of the awakening process (fear and overcoming it)?
Jeremy Moore Continues: If one only uses what media outlets (all 5 of them) show us to gauge how “the masses” think, then we are the living definition of one of the fore mentioned people. JC has plainly shown us all how all forms of media, alternative or mainstream, are distorted to some degree.
I remember my days as an angry poster in conspiracy forums and how freely I used the term “sheeple”. Funny thing is, I was just another kind of sheep, yet too ignorant and scared to see it.
There’s all this talk of sheep and wolves, but where are the shepherds in it all? It’s too easy to take the “masses are idiots” bait, which should shed light on what the real intent behind keeping this lie alive is.
“The masses” are a reflection of the individual and it may do us all well to keep sight of that.
The fact that any one culture (a bastardized use of the term) is falling or imploding may be a sign that humanity is finally ready to move on from the infantile disease known as nationalism.
It may be just another marker on the road to the new world order, or it may be the sign of real changes. Time will tell, and if we really wanted to break free of this loop we’ve all trapped ourselves in, we’d be applauding it instead of pointing fingers at “the masses” (ourselves).
Dripfood Great point Jeremy. There is indeed no such thing as “mass”, let alone “masses”.
Though there might be something called “mess” and even “messes” but those are usually hidden deep inside our subconscious. Ha, maybe our pesky “little” messes are projected as “the big masses”?
nanook73 Hi Jeremy, I think on this subject maybe you’re right. On the other hand it only takes an evening on the freeway, a few minutes on just about any main stream high traffic web site with a “comments” section or an afternoon strolling through Wal-Mart to think maybe you’re not right.
The “moment” provides a variety of perspectives on this topic. Me thinks there are more than two sides to the subject since when discussing “the masses” (i.e.:everyone who is not in your direct sphere of contact/influence) we must remember that although we do not know them they are indeed all unique individuals.
Ironically I own and run a retail business so I am likely (no likely about it) to feel something of a hypocrite while discussing the subject of mindless consumption. But as an old preacher once told me – as far as hypocrites are concerned – there’s always room for one more. So here I am.
It has been my experience after contact with more thousands of people than I can count that a great many of them would think our conversations here to border on the absurd. Nor would many of them be very interested in discussing it with you/us much beyond a furrowed brow.
What percentage would react this way I cannot say exactly but it is many. It has little to do with intelligence – I have tried to muster the conversation with people I consider to be much brighter than myself and have been met with stone silence and a change in conversation.
The issue is not who is smarter but who is willing to look inward and to have everything he or she ever believed to be true questioned.
What I am learning as time goes on is that there are layers upon layers of who we are – something like an onion – as you peel one off there is yet another waiting to be examined. Few are willing to examine the surface let alone peel it off to see what is underneath.
As a species too few of us learn how to reflect either on ourselves (introspection) or on the universe around us (wonder). But then maybe it has always been like this? I don’t know. As far as I am aware this is the first time I have ever been on this planet…. :-) I am one of the masses…Nanook
Roger Parness Masses or messes, there are a lot of downtrodden folks out there. The campaign to dumb down We the People has been exceedingly successful. Mass hypnotism and mass enslavement are real.
Was this ever really the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave? Not in my lifetime.
I find most folks frustrated and with pet peeves but unwilling to take the leap to see the vast lies and criminality going on around them. Good people but with conceptual fears that limit their ability to comprehend the ugly truths.
I do seem to be more awake than those I speak with yet I often wonder who is more awake than I…… and will they help us? I want to be one of the “masses”. Masses Free and Brave.
Jeremy Moore Roger, For what it’s worth, it’s hard not to be downtrodden when one sees the world through the lens manufactured by “their”(our) system.
Fear is the number 1 goal of the process utilized against us. “Yes, it is working”, but as fear slowly gives way to a realization that we are individually our own hope to save ourselves, the individual is forced to take action. It takes little pebbles in the pool to make big waves possible
I know the forum in which we interact makes a huge difference as to how those around us perceive the world.
Once I left the (un)real world of being a wage slave to provide me the basics of life and a few tastes of luxury, the people I came into contact with starting bringing different conversations/interactions to the table for me to injoy.
Was it coincidence that leaving a situation where everyone works a job they don’t really want to work in a location they don’t really want to be in and putting myself in a situation where I work much harder, but I do it to provide for myself (and my family) all the things and the soul food i need?
Personally, I think not. Energy flows where attention goes. The less we participate in the insanity, the more we force ourselves to live outside of it, the less control it has and the faster the wheels come off the train.
I learned a long time ago, the hard way (the only way I seem to really learn), to stop comparing my level of “awake” to any others. Doing so sets one up to fall into many a traps designed to play on ego and “spiritual superiority”.
There are always equal but opposite forces at play, it’s up to the individual to figure out how to balance them in order to manifest the life experience one wants (and one of the main reasons we experience physical existence). While I know you can’t prove this,I’m living proof of it.
Despite the ugly appearance of the world around me painted by media outlets and internet chatter, my own life experience and the physical environment around me continues to brighten and beautify.
Doors I couldn’t kick open before open easily and wide for me now. I get what I need when I need it no matter how dark the initial appearance.
Again is it coincidence that my attitudes/thoughts/emotions have done the same as I learn to control/balance them? Don’t “want to be free”, simply BE…Cheers brother
Tommydelicious Yes indeed Jeremy and dripfood! That gets me to thinking about compost……specifically the compost toilet that I’m currently using. What comes out as malodorous waste (nitrogen rich) is combined with material from the earth (carbon). This is worked on by time and microbiology.
The end result is humus, rich and delightful for all the growing things of the garden. Perhaps these “messes” that are projected into the “masses” are akin to the nitrogen rich wastes that are being worked on by father time, the density of physicality (mother earth), and our own strivings in the upward spiraling of evolution (microbiology?) to create the richness that feeds the soul.
It’s only through the mess that the richness evolves. Think of the ouroborous. Thanks you two……inspiring stuff!
Dripfood Exactly Tommy! The bulk of the mess (or trauma) is copied onto the nervous system during pregnancy. A small bit is added in the following 15 years or so. It provides the basic training vehicle.
The ‘hypnotic suggestions’ otherwise known as temptations are the test-curriculum we set for ourselves. The goal being to not let the suggestion trigger the survival instincts.
It’s not so negative as it appears. Many souls pass their tests with flying colours, partly redeeming the flesh in the process, and making it a little bit easier for the generations that follow. Humanity slowly outgrows her animalistic responses in this fashion, making way for more divinely responding nervous systems.
Contrary to popular belief, I believe we are doing quite well as a soul pool and as a gene pool…
Jeremy Moore Tommy and DF, I guess we’re the optimist primes because we feel very similar. Maybe it’s no coincidence that I too use a composting toilet?
I believe very strongly that once enough souls make the conscious choice to truly be free, we will manifest “the event” that will shatter the current illusion and cast a brilliant light upon all those “hiding in plain sight”. Thought is power, and thought manifest into physical experiences.
We simply need to keep control and direction of our thoughts/emotions/creative forces and we will realize the change we wish to see (or at least we will set it in motion for our children to see)
Dripfood Jeremy, I don’t really believe in an “Event”. I’ve read about it online of course, and all descriptions are too similar to the death experience where the soul leaves the body and transitions to a more etheric realm.
If you’re interested, dr. Michael Newton is a regression therapist that studied the Life between Life periods, which the Tibetan Buddhist call Bardo, over decades. His books Journey of souls and Destiny of souls describe this transition and realm in detail from witness accounts under hypnosis.
I believe “the event” was a psy-op aimed at preparing souls for harvest in case of a mass death/transition event. I further believe a mass deth/transition event has been taken from the official agenda.
Tommydelicious Good on ya Jeremy and df!! …….. There is a wide range of potential resonances on this planet. In other words, you can come here to experience WHATEVER you need to in order for your soul’s growth and expansion.
That being the case, I personally don’t think there will ever be “an EVENT” which will bring the monkeys all into alignment, such as the 100th monkey principle.
I surmise that those opposing forces at work will always be here in this density and will take the shapes, forms, and thoughts that are the primary expressions of this density, and humans are just part of that.
However, as there are many differing frequencies, we choose to vibrate and experience at the level we choose. Those of us who have unplugged largely from the system have chosen to vibrate to a frequency which differs from those struggling with that 9 to 5 at a place they don’t want to be.
Those at the 9 to 5 are learning (perhaps slowly) as well…. just not the lessons that we’re learning.
As such I feel that the terms “awakened” and “enlightened” set a person up for that spiritual superiority that you’ve mentioned J. That’s a trap. As the Tao says…..”she who knows, says not. she who says, knows not”. I love you guys!
Jeremy Moore DF/TD, Perhaps there will be no “event”. I too have read many different angles on some kind of catastrophic sounding events. There may have been a time when I would have found them compelling enough to fear them or attempt to prepare for them. Those days are long behind me.
Let me attempt to put it another way. Whether one denies it or not, humanity, like all organisms on this planet, are connected to our mother.
The electromagnetic vibrations we transmit affect the whole organism. Lower vibrations (like fear and all the emotions it spawns) are drawn inward (involve) toward the center of the planet, and higher ones broadcast outwards (evolve).
There are no shortage of lower vibrations, which one could argue to be manifesting one h** of a “natural disaster”.
On the other end, there are many individuals who have changed their frequency and are vibrating at a higher rate (Love and all its’ emotions) and these frequencies are broadcast outward.
Could it not be possible that those energies are assimilating an experience that would manifest the kinds of changes the higher vibrating transmitters are looking to experience simultaenous to the lower ones? It would make for one h** of a show…..
I’m not going to speculate what kind of “event” could materialize becasue I am not qualified to do so. However, I have had 2 separate experiences, one psychedelic, and one out of body that have only galvanized my belief and innerstanding of it. (now if only I could communicate that feeling more clearly…)
Despite the history of slow changes, there are also points in history where dramatic shifts occurred, and they weren’t all “natural disasters” or “revolutions”.
I believe that the real priestly class behind the “controllers” have had a change of heart so to speak. I think the beast those priests created is “off the leash” and will continue an ever increasing rate to self destruction without its’ true master at the controls.
As matter continues its’ consolidation via the ones who think they’re in control (but aren’t), the spirit of those wishing to control themself continues its’ expansion.
There will come a point where the two will have to be balanced (and I believe that is coming nearer) which will manifest “the event”.
The dark forces seem to be on top at the moment, but then I again, maybe they are supplying us with the expereinces we all require to get those qualities we lack before we take control of our self.
While we can come individually and experience whatever our soul wishes, again, those experiences affect the self-organizing system we are a part of (earth). We all chose to incarnate during this time to get those experiences, but there will be effects (karma) to all (in) actions.
I may be totally off base about all of it, wouldn’t be the first time in my life. Only this time I am utilizing much more of all that and all I am a part of to form this opinion. I’d be lying to say I wouldn’t be really bothered to be wrong. I guess that’s the danger of expectations.
*** would I love to meet you guys and have a beer around the fire
Matt McBride (@MattMhmmcbride) The “confusion” over why the IMF reforms have been consistently delayed and not passed are purveyed in this quote from the below article dated 6 April 2014.
JC’s proposal that the delay and deadline was needed to remove the US veto seems highly probable the more dots we connect in retrospect.
But the failure of the two sides (in congress) to reach a deal is now tarnishing the U.S. reputation at the IMF. The fight is even more puzzling given that the drive to reform the IMF started during the George W. Bush administration and is backed by many luminaries from the Bush and Reagan administrations, Mr. Truman said.
Moreover, support for the IMF in the past has been overwhelmingly bipartisan in Congress. Leading Senate Republicans, including John McCain of Arizona and Bob Corker of Tennessee, were prepared to vote for the IMF reforms as part of the Ukraine aid package.
Matt McBride (@MattMhmmcbride) JC, Did you see the news from late October that China will open bank cards to foreign competition through its Unionpay system?
This is further increasing the internationalisation of the RMB and allowing the East vs West separation distraction to permit a smoother crash and reset of the USD system.
Does Russia transition from SWIFT to Unionpay (or are kicked out by further sanctions) as the next stage?
“Russia’s red line: If Russian access to SWIFT is cut off, ‘the US ambassador to Moscow should leave the same day'”
Roger Parness Love the alchemy of compost. Gardening is spiritual and transmutation of garbage to humus is a miracle. Dross to gold. Toilet to table.
The idea of divinely responding nervous systems is fabulous and sounds much like the etheric work in esoteric healing. As for the soul pool and the gene pool doing quite well…. I’ll vote for your optimism.
I’d like to pass with flying colors! Nice thread gents. :)
Dripfood Roger, the challenge of transforming the nervous system arises from the act that it has no direct connetion to areas of the brain where language and reason reside.
So like animals, our primary nervous system is unable to “listen to reason”. It reacts to imagery, tone and feeling and learns through experience and through a sort of copy-paste method when in close proximity to other nervous systems.
For me this was a great revelation, cause I never understood why most of my ugly habits didn’t automatically change after seeing them and understanding their origine.
Now I know: direct physical experience is the only way to transmute the immature/animal habits into more mature/divine responses.
Tommydelicious Well said df. A story, perhaps you’ve heard:
I walked down a street and fell into a big hole.
It took a long time to climb out of this hole.
I walked down the same street and fell into the same hole.
It took effort to climb out.
I walked down the same street, saw the hole, and still fell in.
I climbed out quickly.
I walked down the same street, saw the hole, and stepped around it.
Then I walked down a different street.
Yes, we learn through experience…….here’s to walking down new streets!!!
Bruno de Landevoisin Fantastic piece JC, you have outdone yourself. Thank you my brother in arms.
My latest prose wilts in comparison, however, hopefully a few here will find it worthwhile:
I’m now going to read up on the previous posts you pointed to, so as to further grasp your CSI concept. Best, Bruno
irrelevant111 Somehow this resonates…
daneackerman Indeed it does resonate friend. Sure feel sorry for him. Too bad he seems to have given up even trying. Does anyone really know if too late even exists in matters such as these? I mean realising is supposed to be half the battle right?
irrelevant111 Thank you, all about the journey…
Susan Morris @All: thoughtful posts – please keep them coming, as I’m busy sharing…
@JC: Do you see the dollar demise as “imminent”? And does imminent mean ‘overnight’ or could it be a long drawn-out affair?
Thought: if Americans (and maybe the rest of us) are going to lose bank accounts and pensions, where else is there left to go to save ourselves, except a few PMs? Other riches are skills like gardening, dressmaking, plumbing, wiring, building, but these take years to hone, and cannot be bought.
Cramley C/P into translate…it could take awhile for the dollar reserves to fall to a new equilibrium point as per the article. But that just pertains to dollars already external and out of the control of the USTreasury. Internal dollars could be another matter.
Bruno de Landevoisin Right up your alley J.C.! The International Monetary Fund’s headquarters may one day move from Washington to Beijing, aligning with China’s growing influence in the world economy, the fund’s managing director Christine Lagarde said early this month.
Attaching importance to China
Christine Lagarde made the statement at the London School of Economics and Political Science (LSE), saying that the IMF rules require that the institution should be headquartered in the country that is the biggest shareholder. This has always been the U.S. since the fund was formed.
matt (@speedspirit42) Good catch Bruno.
Is the United States becoming more Third World’ish really a bad thing as many here on this blog know that becoming more self sufficient and reliant is a step consciously in the right direction.
The United States was the light for the world for many years and this new ground of evolving from a consumerist state to whatever the new term will be does not relinguish our duty to continue to be the shinning example for the world no matter the difficult circumstances.
Daneackerman I see your point Matt. What if the rest of the world is advancing to 1st and 2nd world countries and the US is just remaining idle?
irrelevant111 What so amazes me, is intellectuals attempting to discern what may occur. It provides value and hope for all as we journey on… No judgement intended…
Bright minds abound. Wish they are in power.
Certainty is, the BRICS is changing the dynamic of the stranglehold the Petro dollar has enjoyed for many yrs. Times are changing for those that see. Be prepared…
So on a footnote as the court jester, Mr. Collins allows me freedom to express.
Let us enjoy moments of foolish humor as an innocent distraction. Best to all,
matt (@speedspirit42) Meant to post link to a free viewing of Symphony of the Soil here where it correlates to implosion of our culture.
The movie explains how man Adam (Adama -meaning soil) and woman Eve (Hava -meaning life giving) and the Garden (nature) is the gift from God the Creator. All of man’s efforts to improve on the design has destoyed the soil and the meant to be culture of man. The link is available thru Dec 16.
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