_MED: DO YOU WANT THE GIST OR DO YOU WANT ME TO FORGET IT
Brewbaby: please please,
MED: AGAIN HMMM POINT IS THIS
Brewbaby: I am on vacation, and don't want to miss a thing.........hehehe
MED: IF CBI WAS LOPPING THE DINAR
THERE WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO BUY BACK ONE DINAR IN LIQUIDITY NONE
Brewbaby: exactly I agree
MED: THE ONLY REASON THAT ANYONE COULD USE THE EXCUSE OF IT BEING VERY COSTLY TO THE COUNTRY OR IRAQ IS THAT THEY WILL HAVE TO HONOR THE NEW RATE OF 1.25 OR 1.17 FOR ALL DINAR SAME AS THEY DID BEFORE WITH THE 2003 EXCHANGE
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MED: AS I SAID THAT LAW IS STILL IN PLACE HAS NOT BEEN REVOKED
IN FACT ALL LAWS PUT IN PLACE BY THE COALITION PROVISIONAL AUTHORITY
ARE STILL IN PLACE
Brewbaby: so, what may I ask brought this line of talk back up?
I mean about the L word
MED: OH IT WAS SONNY THAT CALLED ME
MED: AND HE WAS GOING OVER IT WITH HIS PROFESSOR FRIEND
I THOUGHT CUZ YOU KNOW NO MATTER WHAT IS IN THE NEWS
PEOPLE HAVE THAT LITTLE VOICE THAT IS SAYING WE ARE GONNA GET SCREWED
mailman17: HEY POPS!
MED: HEY MM17
Brewbaby: yeah, one of the guys at work said his wife just read in Forbes magazine about how much of a scam this all is
mailman17: WHATS NEW YA OLD COOT...
MED: NOT MUCH
peek: If it can devalue, it can revalue. Only this time internationally
Brewbaby: I wonder how much they all own..........
mailman17: I TRIED TO EXPLAIN A LITTLE BIT MORE IN DEPTH REGARDING MY CHAT LAST NIGHT...DID YA GET A CHANCE TO READ IT?
MED: NO I DID NOT
guardian: i wonder how much iraq news they read
MED: ATT HAD TO RESET MY SETTINGS OH HECK YES THE BEST JOB I EVER HAD LEMME RUN THROUGH MY THOUGHT OK
mailman17:YES THE BUDGET IS APPROVED AND SET TO GOLIVE MAR 1
BUT IT NEEDS A RATE AND SHABS HOLDS THAT KEY NOW
IF BY CHANCE...THE GOVT IS NOT DONE...AS PER SHABS REQUEST...HE COULD MOST LIKELY HOLD OFF THE RATE
HENCE HOLDING UP THE RELEASE OF THE BUDGET...WHICH IS FINE
CAUSE WE BOTH KNOW THIS IX COMING DOWN PRIOR TO THE SUMMIT
LAST MINUTE T'S AND I;S
Brewbaby: the budget has to be released, or it will be arab spring all over agian
mailman17 : SHORT VERSION...LOL
stlou: in a different way BB
MED: IT SOUNDS REASONABLE BUT
mailman17: THATS WHAT I WAS TRYING TO SAY LAST NIGHT...LOL
WE KNOW THAT EVERY FRIGGN TIME WE THOUGHT THEY WERE BACKED
INTO A CORNER AND HAD ONLY ONE WAY OUT
THEY JUST SEEMED TO CIRCUMVENT IT AND CONTINUE ON
NOW YES THE BUDGET NEEDS A RATE
IT HAS ONE THOUGH ALREADY
mailman17: TRUE...BUT HALF OF 140 IS DONE AND THAT CAME OUT OF NO WHERE...AND I SUSPET HEADING INTO THE CONFERENCE...ALL SHOULD BE SETTLED...GUT TALKING
THINK ABOUT IT
AND THAT TO ME IS THIER SAFEGUARD
Brewbaby: the National Conference really needs to happen before the summit so they can get their say they have it together
mailman17: BUT TO IMPLMENT IT...THE RATE NEEDS TO BE ACTIVE
MED: THINK ABOUT WHAT I SAID
mailman17: NOT JUST ON PAPAER
ALL THE BUDGET IS SUPPORTED BY WHAT
WHERE IS EVERY DIME FROM
MED: YES AND OIL IS PAID IN WHAT
AND THIS BUDGET AS I SAW IT IN PRINT
WAS IN USD
mailman17: AND LEST NOT FORGET A 80 BIL SURPLUS FROM ACCOUNTS SETTLED
Brewbaby: wasn't it in both?
MED: I DID NOT SEE IT
mailman17: ITS THERE...LOL
MED: I ONLY SAW THE 100 BILLION
mailman17: ACCOUNTS SETTLED FROM 2004 - 2011 AMOUNT TO 80 BIL PLUS
Brewbaby: I thought 117 Trillion or 100.5 billion
MED: I UNDERSTAND THAT
mailman17: THE BUDGET IS 100 PLUS
WHEN I SAW IT REMARKED ON BB
I ONLY SAW THE USD VALUE
AND TO ME
CUZ IT IS SPONSORED BY OIL REVENUES
mailman17: THEY DIDNT ACCOUNT FOR SURPLUS GOING INTO THAT...ONLY 2012 REVENUE
MED: THAT IS HOW THEY CAN CIRCUMVENT AND BUY TIME NOW
mailman17: WHICH IS MOST LIKELY WHY THEY SIGNED OFF ON THE 25% SO EAGERLY
Brewbaby: so what will the surplus do? It is almost what thier 2012 budget is
IF THE BUDGET WAS ONLY SPONSORED
BY A TRADEABLE CURRENCY LIKE THE DINAR
THEN THEY WOULD HAVE TO HAVE THE RATE IN PLACE
NOW SEVERAL ISSUES CAME UP
AND ARE ON THE TABLE IN IRAQ
Brewbaby: they are sidestepping again
MED: 1....ERBIL AGREEMENT
mailman17: HANDICAPPED CAMEL PARKING?
5....THE RELEASE OF NEW DENOMS
WITH A VALUE OF 1.25 TO 1.17 DINAR TO 1 USD
Brewbaby: well, I do not see the Erbil or HCL being done if they do not have the Nat'l Conf before the summit
MED: EITHER DO I THOUGH THEY SAID TODAY
mailman17: THE FIRST 2 WILL RUN INTO THE 3RD MENTIONED...AND THE REST SHOULD RUN INTO THE SUMMIT ALONG WITH THE RATE OF 1.25 TO 1.17
THAT THE HCL WILL BE BROUGHT UP AT PARLIAMENT
YES MM17 I AGREE THEY COULD EASILY BE PART OF THE DEAL
AND IN FACT THEY WERE MENTIONED
AS PART OF IT WHEN THE LIST CAME BACK
YES THEY WERE...
WITH NO ONE REALLY BOLSTERING ANY DOWNPLAY
NOW I KNOW THAT PRESSURE IS ON
TO HAVE THE NATIONAL CONFERENCE BEFORE THE SUMMIT
BUT THE NATIONAL ALLIANCE IS NOT IN FAVOR OF IT
THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT WOULD HAPPEN AS SOON AS THE LIST CAME BACK
mailman17: TALK...NOTHING MORE...IMO
THE NA GETS THEIR WAY
GIVES LIP SERVICE
THEN DRAGS THEIR FEET
NOW THEY HAVE OR ARE HAVING THEIR 5TH MEETING
Brewbaby: the NA goes one way one day and two days later they go the other, like a bunch of us old people, can't stay on course
MED: ON THE PREP FOR THE CONF...
mailman17: YES...PRE CONFERENCE MEETINGS
AND THE MORE THEY HAVE
THE MORE HEATED THE REMARKS ARE IN THE MEDIA
Brewbaby: they should have just had the conference, for as many pre meetings they have been having
I KNEW THIS IS WHAT WAS GOING TO HAPPEN
TO ME I THINK THE N.C. IS RIGHT NOW DEAD
mailman17: BUT WE ALSO KNOW...THE MORE THEY HASH OUT ON THE SIDE MIGHT LEAD TO A SUCCESSFUL CONFERENCE
THEY WILL GIVE LIP SERVICE IN THE MEDIA
HOW IT WILL HAPPEN
BUT YOU WILL NOT SEE IT IN MARCH
Brewbaby: because according to the media, the same people do not show up every time, so there is new concerns rise up to be discussed
IF THEY DONT SHOW UP
TIME WILL TELL OLD FRIEND....FINGERS CROSSED
Brewbaby: IMO they should be having these discussions in Parliament, not off to the side somewhere
YES BUT IF THEY DID THAT
THEN THEY WOULD NOT NEED THE NC
Brewbaby: that is my point
mailman17: BREW..SIDE TALKS AND AGREEMENTS HAVE THEIR PLACE...ESPECIALLY WHEN THE MAJORITY AGREES
MED: OH I AGREE
Brewbaby: to me this NC is just another Erbil, and will go nowhere
mailman17: THATS WHAT MALIKI SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON...
MED: I AGREE AGAIN
Brewbaby: they can't even agree to disagree
mailman17: BREW...NOT REALLY...AS IT ALL LEADS TO IRAQS ASCENSION INTO THE ARAB WORLD VIA THE SIMMIT
Brewbaby: so it is still just BS until something happens that forces their hands
YOU ALREADY KNOW THAT THE OTHER ARAB COUNTRIES
THINK IRAQ IS A JOKE
mailman17: UNTIL WE SEE IT IN PRINT...YES
Brewbaby: the whole world does
MED: THE LAST TIME MALIKI ATTENED ONE
mailman17: YES THEY DO MED
MED: THEY LAUGHED AT HIM
mailman17: YES THEY DID
Brewbaby: he does look funny
stlou: he was wearing a tutu..
MED: LIKE THE MISSIN LINK
mailman17: BUT I THINK THIS TIME AROUND WILL BE DIFFERENT
he is waylaying everything for a reason, and I am sure it is not good.
Let's just hope they stick to not letting him run again
mailman17: AS THIS WILL REPRESENT IRAQ TO THEM AS A POSSIBLE CHA 7 RELEASED NATION....READY TO RUMBLE
MED: OH FOR SURE
mailman17: WELL PAL...I SAY...WE GO BACK TO WHAT WE KNOW BEST AND TAKE THIS ONE DAY AT A TIME...
AND VOTE FOR BREWBABY AS MODERATOR OF THE MONTH
ALL IN FAVOR...SAY I
ALL IN ALL...WE SHALL WAIT TO SEE WHAT THE NEWS BRINGS US...AND IF ITS ANYTHING LIKE WHAT IT HAS BROUGHT US IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS...WE SHOULD BE FINE
MED...AGREE?, YOU NOD OFF AGAIN?
mailman17: DONT KNOW HOW THE GUY DOES IT...HE SLEEPS 2 HOURS A DAY
cookmarian: cautiously optimistic
Brewbaby: Man I go get my hotdog and I get elected for something, never fails
Good chat BB and MM17
mailman17: MUST BE THAT YOOPER WATER
Brewbaby: don't get to put my two cents in much lately, so I thank you guys for letting me
mailman17: YES BB..YOU ARE MODERATOR OF THE MONTH...AND YOUR PEIZE IS A BRAND NEW IRAQI CAMEL LISCENCE...FOR RESERVED PARKING AT THE PARLIMENT MEETINGS...CONGRATS
Brewbaby: ty mm17, does it come with lots of used shoes to throw?
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Brewbaby: alright, now we are talking
CRAP...WE SCARED MED OFF?
HES SHAKING HIS HEAD RIGHT NOW...I GUARENTEE IT...LOL
Brewbaby: he has been having connection problems all morning
Your eternal optimism is remarkable MM17. I have complete that this investment will pay a great return. However I no longer believe it is possible to predict
You do give me the boost I need when I need it
mailman17: OPTOMISTIC...YES...BUT WHAT DI I BASE THAT ON...RESEARCH AND THE NEWS
cdjsilver51: so do we think they are still talking about approvals to release the new currency in that article Spanky posted?
AM I BOLSTEROUS IN MY OPINIONS?...*****YA
BUT I DO BASE IT ON CURRENT EVENTS
cookmarian: I understand that. I love that about. The energy blasts off the screen
cdjsilver51: yo mailman?
guardian: sometimes we make this too hard, it will probably end up with a simple BAM
mailman17: BINGO GUARDIAN
cookmarian: I love to hear BAM. And news news news
cdjsilver51: did you guys see my question a few rows up?
mailman17 : MY JOB FROM THE GITGO...FORM DAY ONE...WAS TO ANALYZE CURRENT EVENTS...PICK APART THE ARTICLES, FIGHT IF NEED BE....AND TO CONVEY TO OTHERS THEIR CORRECT DECISION IN THIS INVESTMENT
mailman17: IF THATS A CRIME..OH FRIGGIN WELL..LOL
cdjsilver51: so are they just talking about the approval to release the currency or is it something else we don't know about?
I HAVE BEEN IN THIS AWHILE....AND I CONSIDER MYSELF EDUCATED IN THIS...BUT ON THE OTHER HAND...NOT SWAYED BY OUTSIDE INFLUENCE...
I SPEAK MY MIND,,,PERIOD
BUT I SPEAK IT WITH KNOWLEDGE
guardian: article says they only need: the tactical level and higher will be the announcement of the implementation and contract with advertising companies and the media to educate citizens on how to use the new currency and to answer all questions raised by him.
mailman17: I ALSO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX
guardian: everything else is done
mailman17: SORRY..GUARDIAN...GREAT POST AS OKIE WOULD SAY...NUFF SAID...LOL
cdjsilver51: He added that in the event of obtaining approval by the federal government on the implementation of the project
mailman17: YES IT IS
MED: THE BIGGEST PROBLEM THEY HAVE
cdjsilver51: That's the sentence I read and questioned.
AND THIS IS WHY THEY HAVE HAD TO DIVULG TO MUCH
I UNDERSTAND CDJ BUT WE ALL SHOULD KNOW BY NOW
THAT CENTRAL BANK LAW STATES
THEY HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DO THIS NO MATTER WHAT
AND THIS HAS BEEN ADDRESSED BY CBI IN THE MEDIA
NOW HERE IS A POINT
IF THEY TRULY NEEDED THE GOI TO SAY YES
WHY? WOULD THEY HAVE SPENT 7 YEARS
AND MILLIONS ON EQUIPMENT THE MINTING OF COINS
AND PRINTING OF NEW DENOMS
IF THIS WAS NOT IN THE BAG PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE
IN THE U.S. YOU FIRST GET APPROVAL THEN FUNDING
THEN IMPLEMENT THE PROJECT IF WHAT IS IN THE NEWS IS TRUE
THEN THEY REVERSED IT ALL
DOES THIS SOUND LIKE SOMETHING SHABIBI WOULD DO
JUMP INTO SOMETHING WITHOUT KNOWING THE ANSWER
AND WHY WOULD MEMBERS OF THE GOI ASK THEM TO MAYBE NOT RV TOO HIGH IF THEY WONT PUT IT OFF THAT CONTRADICTS THE APPROVAL THING THE PROBLEM HERE WITH THIS INVESTMENT
IS THERE IS SO MUCH THAT ACTUALLY DOES COME OUT
AND SO MANY STATEMENTS YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RECALL THEM ALMOST AT WILL TO BE ABLE TO PUT THEM IN LINE
cdjsilver51: again, that's why you gt the big bucks. Thanks for your answer. I just wondered and couldn't believe they said they needed an approval again. I thought, What am I missing?
guardian : cdjsilver imo: implementation of the project work will be on what is left to do, which is >> tactical level and higher will be the announcement of the implementation and contract with advertising companies and the media to educate citizens on how to use the new currency and to answer all questions raised by him.
that's not much left
cdjsilver5: Perfect, thank you guardian. You're so right. I appreciate it.
guardian: makes us closer at least
OK ONE THING
I WANT THOSE COMMENTS
BY GUARDIAN ADDED TO THE CHAT POST
mailman17: MED...AND THE PLOT THICKENS...MEDIA BULL****...AKA MISINFORMATION
MED: OH HECK YES
mailman17: AND THAT TELLS ME WE ARE FRIGGIN CLOSE
OK I AM TAKING A BREAK
I WILL BBL
cdjsilver51: thank you so much, med
mailman17: LATER PAL...NICE JOB GUARDIAN
guardian: very close imo mm17
alk4316: med I need a smiley doing backflips
guardian that would be perfect alk
OK GUYS...HERE IT IS...........TICK TOCK GOES THE DINAR CLOCK AND ITS ABOUT TO STRIKE TWELVE....BAM
GUARDIAN...YES WE ARE...AND ALL THANKS TO YOU...AGAIN
guardian: if we say BAM enough, it might happen, and thank you too, appreciate your thoughts
mailman17: SEE...AND YOU ALL WERE WORRIED....PISH POSH...FOLLOW THE NEWS<)
cdjsilver51: do we still think Shabibi is waiting for the draft law to release the new denoms
mailman17: OOOHH..GOOD QUESTION...ASK MY NEIGHBOR...
hey that's not fair, come on
mailman17: YOU KNOW MY THOUGHTS...LOL
cdjsilver51: yes, we're just waiting for him to shoot the gun bam
LET IT UNFOLD
guardian: "we are now awaiting approval from them to get to the final stages of project implementation." How could they not, everything has been approved along the way...
guardian: i would be surprised if it did not go through, very surprised
HENCE SHABBIBIS LITTLE ARTICLE BUT NOT SIGNED...LOL
POWER PLAY....IN A NUTSHEL
guardian: oh wait this is Iraq :P just kidding
mailman17: SIT BACK...GRAB A BUCKET OF HOT WINGS AND A BEER AND WATCH THE SHOW....LOL
cdjsilver51: yum, can't wait
mailman17: POWER PLAY OH SO DISCREET
SO MUCH FOR MY DAY
I'm so glad I can come into the room and make your day feel like crappo
mailman17: WELL LOU...YOUR THOUGHTS?
ty everybody for the input today, this is going great
KS ty for doing the chat
stlou: I think a couple of things..
Brewbaby: go for it lou
guardian: stlou need to be bumped up with the Mods
mailman17: GOOD PEOPLE MAKE FOR GREAT CONVERSATION
stlou: 1. Why does shabs need parliament's approval on anything when he is autonomous
mailman17: I KNOW... I KNOW
stlou: 2. If he does, will the powers that be stall this again in order to wear the other parties out?
3. with the arab yabba dabbas coming to Iraq (although no reservations as of yet), will this thing finally come into fruition prior to the summit?
4. will they finally get the gonads to bring Maliki down?
mailman17: YES AND NO...IMO
yes on 4, but no on 5?
3 and 4
stlou: so..the arab summit is when, the 24th or 25th?
crap..off a little bit..
mailman17: ME TOO..COMES WITH THE GAME...LOL
stlou: this seems to me as though we finally have reached the make or break moment..
guardian: i'm seeing the 29th now
tatatime: I have been in the bungie sticks for almost 2 weeks. Finally found the keys to the door. What a great chat to walk back into!
Brewbaby: 27th to 29th
mailman17: LEAVE IT TO GUARDIAN...LOL
and it would appear to me one very important thing that we all know is true..
and that is this.
guardian: 8-) not me, it's them lol
mailman17: TATA...WELCOME BACK
tatatime: it's so good to BE back, TY
stlou: IF Iraq wants to come out as a big boy in the Arab League, you better have your economic picture as bright as possible in order to attract business
Brewbaby: I totally agree
YA DIDNT MISS MUCH...MED GOT OLDER..
stlou: and that only means one thing...RV now or you will continue to be the laughingstock of the Arab world
Brewbaby: that is why I said Maliki is up to something, and it isn't good, because he does not appear to want anything good for the people
stlou: and if you're hosting this grand event...
mailman17: WELL...LETS LOOK AT THIS FROM 2 STANDPOINTS
tatatime : Oh, I missed a crapload! Had to sort thru the junk on the "other" sites to find it. Man, I missed you guys!
YOURS WHAT YOU JUST POSTED
AND THE GLOBAL EFFECT
and that in itself MM is just as important to the IMF/WB/UN/UST/and us
oh..and the IRS
mailman17: BREW...MALIKI IS DEAD IN THE WATER...ESPECILLY CONCERNING THIS MEETING...WHICH HAS THE CAPABLITY AND THE VOTES TO OUST HIM...FOOD FOR THOUGHT
stlou: but who will blink first MM..that is the ultimate question..
GRIFFIN: i think maliki has been told to step aside and let this happen
I see he dropped the charges against Hashemi
could be a concession for something?
Brewbaby: why if he had info for three years against him is he dropping charges?
stlou: I thought I read that in an article today..
mailman17: MALIKI WILL...AS SEEN IN HIS NON PRESCENCE THE LAST MONTH
Brewbaby: he wanted him out of the way for a reason
he has the goods on Maliki..IMO
so does Mutluck
mailman17: HE IS NO LONGER AS STRONG AS HE WAS...BU T NOW...HE KNOWS IT
Brewbaby: I think you are right stlou
mailman17: SO NOW HE BECOMES WHAT HE MOST DETESTED....A PUPPET
Brewbaby: if you go to sotaliraq and read at the bottom of the page all of the individuals who express their opinions, you will see that none I repeat none of them like Maliki
YES...THAT IS THE CONCENSUS
BUT...MALIKI KNOWS THIS NOW...HIS PLAN FAILED
Brewbaby: they think he is an iranian puppet and is doing everything they tell him too to make them iranian and they want no part of it
SO NOW...HE MUST BE LIKE THE BORG
Brewbaby: do you think he will make it to the next election.......lol
I THINK IF MALIKI IS SMART..HE WILL SEE THIS RV OFF...THEN RIDE INTO THE SUNSET
ksdunlap: YVW Brew
mailman17: NO QUESTIONS ASKED
guardian: he's power hungry though
mailman17: BUT WITH NO BACKING
Brewbaby: yes very power hungry
guardian: elsicko maliki
mailman17: LATER PAL...DONT LET THE DOOR HIT YOU ON THE WAY OUT
Brewbab: hit you where the good Lord split
mailman17 : TAKE YOUR MILLIONS AND BE OFF
guardian: Brewbaby grab one of those steel-toed boots, that'll get rid of him
mailman17: BUT THATS IN THE FUTURE...LETS STAY IN THE PRESENT
guardian: the rv will happen with or without maliki
OK PEEPS...BEEN A GREAT DAY...WITH MED ONBOARD...STAY FOCUSED AND POSITIVE AND FOLLOW THE NEWS
tatatime: If the Arab Summit is not suppose to be Iraq's Coming Out Party, why did they cancel it last year instead of moving it to another location and having it without Iraq? And why would they insist on coming to Baghdad again this year?
mailman17: IT IS IRAQS COMING OUT PARTY...FINALLY
tatatime: I agree
mailman17 says to (13:13:15):
tatatime: At last....
guardian: if maliki plays nice in kuwait and doesn't upset anyone
Polarbear: I like parties
mailman17: SEE?..DIDNT MISS MUCH...LOL
tatatime: haha...had to think for myself
THATS HARD REGARDING IRAQ...WELCOME TO MY WORLD...LOL