PTR CONF CALL 11-21-11 DAN AND TONY
DAN STATES - Crazy and Confusing November 21st - groundhog, every Monday we start over again. Guess what's going to happen next. I feel like we are in groundhog week… Every Monday we say it really looks good, taste it and find out its burnt… Let's have a good day. Go with flow. Info is good. Everything is happening. Go with that…. Dan agrees with nobody. I agree this is happening. We are in moment. Almost done… Those of you chasing date will kill yourself. I hear from Mods last night. Stop chasing the *^%$ date! I have faith the IQD will revalue. Right at end of situation. Not going into today misquoted like last week saying I called it… Everything is good. Hearing nothing bad…
TONY STATES - All right, I'm in a GREAT mood! Everything is good – today is not over what are you complaining about – and it could be tomorrow or Wednesday too and look at the obvious as some things I can’t’ say it would cause trouble – what we do know and have and we did have a hard time regarding the votes and what happened in parliament and just now 15 minutes ago all that was voted in in Parliament it was all done according to plan – Maliki is in Japan and has docs that when they start building the dinar will have the value that it is to have – what is holding this up and now a text said just now that the GOV is trying to hold this up – and CHINA and Shabibi and Iraq said NO to holding this up and Thursday Friday and they re-voted on Sunday in Parliament to formalize it we are just waiting on time there is nothing else – so why are you upset – enjoy your day its coming – the debt ceiling mess super committee were trying to hold this up and there will be no agreement in the super committee we do to have to wait as it’s not going to happen with the committee so that is good news for the RV to me – it’s good news for us – not society but for us its fine. We have info that we normally would not have folks –
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DAN STATES folks woke up with no RV and they were upset today – as I was there Friday too that all info was great last week for this. Don’t get upset that we do not know exactly what is totally going on…. Giving information best we have. if upsetting need to back away… people talking about Johnny's predictions, no one from Okie to Tony to Dan to Gary knows we are all trying to figure out! Let’s be honest, we're all trying to figure it out. You are a fool to think otherwise. Based on what we hearing. If you want to believe, great but don't dog others on board - no one knows! We know this is going to take place, where faith comes in. We are doing best we can.. I believe us staying together family wise, team wise, etc. I hope you get ready to bring something to table. This will wear you out if you keep doing this. Are you kidding me? He doesn’t' know more than I do or Tony? (Johnny)
TONY STATES - we are trying, everyone is trying to put puzzle together to help you with your puzzle. Some are business savvy, investment savvy, some aren't - everybody has situation trying to live with. Still ways of respecting each other. If my info doesn't go w/yours, can still discuss as investors, people with info…as people who are involved, or you can't handle it. Nobody has called me or Johnny or Okie or Poppy, Dan, etc. and said RV will be at 12:01 Monday at 11.83 and you can count on it, guarantee fact - be at bank - NOT GONNA HAPPEN.. We can say this should be done at this time, this should happen. Different agencies giving different info… I want it to work like everyone else…. I know enough to say this is our best guess. We sure hope we are right this time or hope it happens this time… Obama is not coming on TV and say Wednesday you will be millionaires.
TONY STATES – when I say contractors – it’s a company contracted by IRAQ to do service there… He got paid his money and said it couldn't happen unless there was an RV. Have those people that got paid, money deposited in account. We didn't say contractors on base or with the US government, there was some confusion there. …still time frames that have to go on. IMF said they have 72 hours to make it world wide know - did it start Sun when votes were announced? made official? Friday?. Don't know if that has started yet or not. Lots of variables we don't know. Got to look at risk vs reward. .. Has to be a process this goes through. Going through process. Most people can understand that…
DAN STATES - I have had admiration for Okie...and people want to crucify Jonny (him) good or bad....I’m not against him.... see above... Gotta know what we're trying to do is give you enough hope, creating this board, because we believed you guys need to hang on. Never thought it would go this long. You have to know we are trying to give you enough hope. Put our time, effort long time because we believe you need to hang on, would be confusing. Never thought it would be this long.
TONY STATES - Good point. This is what I looked at today. Got to give credit to my brother RayRen. We're actually in the ideal situation for it to happen. Prior to Black Friday, greatest sales period of entire year. So far into the year, if you have a trust, foundation, whatever, you don't have time to get the tax write off. If they did it in Jan, you have a year to make investments. You don't have that in the next 45 days. And believe me you will cash it all in the next 45 days. You don’t have the next 45 days. You will cash all it in 45 days if you have half sense when it comes out. Bigger bite for them. Doesn't make sense for government to take into January because whole year. Makes sense right now, strongest quarter, biggest tax bite they can get.
DAN STATES - my thought is same. In good place as always, if not on wagon of happening tomorrow - be real. I'm really, really real. Going to happen very soon. Be part of team. Be happy you have IQD. Lots don't know about it. Will happen really soon and I believe before holidays start. If I'm wrong, not going to apologize
Simon: I agree with Allen , it is what you said before, lot don't want to hear anything other than happening tomorrow. We have reasons we need this, we have to be real and understand good possibility not happening tomorrow. it is coming. So much news and articles. Some things pop up. Auctions for CBI and now listed in trillions not millions or billions. Oct 25 auction of 170 Trillion in sales; over 100 billion. How can change figures without something going on? This is going forward and have to keep the faith but not steer people in wrong direction
TONY STATES - I know I asked you this question already. There's only one thing that can make the auctions today go from billions to trillions. They didn't just print this weekend. Only one thing to make that number go to that amount.
SIMON STATES - That's true. Something's going on.
CHIEF STATES: last week there were couple articles came out regarding budget and reserves being $140 trillion wondering including lower denoms in that those reserves, once they remove those, i that where it is? Seen two articles stating that showed dinar amounts and dollar amounts that indicate something going on
SIMON STATES - That means that dinars in lower denoms - means they must have printed the lower denoms
TONY STATES - that means that dinars were in the lower denoms - means they must have printed the lower denoms…What they were supposed to be doing, replacing 000's with lower denoms. Even if they doubled, would not come out to those high auction numbers
CALLER ASKS - Did you hear rumors about Kuwait Rving?
TONY STATES - Lot of people saying in country RV in Iraq is that true? Tony: that's what I've heard. I heard 4 or 5 countries rv'd but it wont be made public til all of them do.. contractors got deposit last week. Guys in Dubai - what I've heard.
DAN STATES - how in heck all these people keeping quiet. All these new millionaires. Only taken place in one country? It just, goes to make sense someone is a liar. I don't believe that guy. I'm telling you, I think he's a liar.
CALLER STATES she heard Donald Trump and others have cashed out
TONY STATES - you are not going to hear me say they didn't. There are things that happen whether you want them to or not. People are privileged. Things happen for them that won't happen to you. .. If this guy did get paid, what his contract negotiated for, he said our rate would be higher.. I don't know about Donald Trump, might be one of the elite, he won't tell us if he was. That does not mean he didn’t …
DAN STATES - Those in that elite group know they will stay in that group if they keep their mouth shut. If they love their families and their position in life they will keep their mouths shut. I believe people higher than Donald Trump. That's my opinion. If all these things we're hearing are true, we would know about it. If the people we're hearing about it from know that, we would definitely know that.
TONY STATES – Going to say this part. Heard people are getting paid since last Sunday, don't know if Trump is one of them. The ones that are will not broadcast it. Won't be someone you know.
CALLER ASKS - Want to ask, the Obama thing, the delay, anything more to do with than the new tax legislation.
TONY STATES - The Obama thing is about life in 2013. There are a lot of issues in there that will affect you for years to come. Being fought for right now. Both sides have things to gain and lose. Most goes into effect 2013. Don't care who wins the election its going take some time for them to undo this mess that’s about to go into effect Wed… you are terribly mistaken if you guys think the RV is about that....but many things that will effect you in 2013
CALLER ASK - So my question, my husband and I hearing about auctions in Iraq don't understand why they auction money, what is that about?
SIMON STATES - go to the CBI auctions...Oct 25th last day to show auctions, they had 4 winning bid 170 trillion dinar and 120 trillion purchased? where is that money going? Today the issue is where that money bought in auctions is going. With only 4 purchases, must be going to banks in Iraq. Probably in lower denominations. CBI is auctioning money. They've always done. So Iraq purchasing funds to basically inventory into those banks. Chief mentioned earlier lower denoms are being distributed to individual banks w/in the country. If that's the case things are moving
CALLER ASKS - Joe from North Carolina. Thank you for all information you bring forth. The only question I have is earlier you were talking about trillions reduced to billions has to do with something, but not sure I understand.
DAN STATES - there's, every bank supeopleied with currency, auctions for purchase, watching CBI through this whole mess. Tony has idea - lot of money. How that doesn't hurt our situation.
TONY STATES - In my mind, way I see it, if went to trillions because they included lower denoms - they are replacing 000s, that wouldn't change value, the only thing that can change value on amount CBI has is to change value of their dinar. When we say went from millions to trillions, we can determine what new rate is, basically if you do numbers….only thing that can change the value, would be the in country....if Simon did the math, we could get our new rate...
DAN STATES - that's kind of what was meant by the call last night. Think we are close, things are good. No negative feelings about this. I get challenged when those that put all they have in the moment. We will not be able to get this right. We get bad information on occasion. one of those things all information is good and all information out there is bad. We are part of misinformation. Just the way it is. Is that negative to you when I say maybe not tomorrow or next day?
TONY STATES - ok, no, all I was going to say is we did talk about - we get a lot of information, we try to sift through it, good bad and ugly. Months ago we got information that false info for a purpose. Last week told source was directed to give us bad information. We know it's not all good. We know it was. We didn't tell anyone what they said because it was so crazy. We sifted through it. We Told you months and months ago things being said and done for a reason. Worse people out there than M. Our government as well as theirs was doing what we had to do to benefit long term. You have to be investment wise savvy enough, adult enough to understand what’s going on and that it’s not all about you or us. Sometimes we're used as a messenger to get to other people.
TONY STATES - we're lucky to even be a part of this. Wake up every day and say, Man, they're still letting me play! I'm going get the reward for going through all this. That’s what I think every day. You will not get me down. I know it’s coming. I think its going be a great day. Enjoy the day go about your business let it come to you. Still in motion. Could be today, tomorrow, Wednesday, Personal opinion will be before Thanksgiving. I just can't tell you everything, but still feeling good about it…Just be happy you're involved with the greatest opportunity we'll ever see until the next opportunity, which is closer than you think …Be RESPECTFUL of each other....nobody is here for your amusement… Lets all work together and try to solve this thing out…bring it to the table if you can…if you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem
DAN STATES - Hope you have a good Monday. What hit me the most today, it was extremely quiet.
TONY STATES = That's normal, but the fact that this weekend, we couldn't talk to anybody. Trying to talk to people, but it was like a real black out, Info not coming out of parliament. Just got the info a little while ago today that all went as we were hoping it would. We just weren't aware of what was happening. Actually it was good news that we had no news….Should be looking forward saying we're closer than ever, no more stops, has to happen, our government not holding it back.
DAN STATES - we did get ahold of gentlemen with identity theft situation, off the grid situation legally so you are hidden behind corporations. Looking to put up call with them maybe tomorrow or Wednesday. Have numbers we can live with. Will like it.
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