tlou says to (13:20:43): attempts to freeze the constitution, which in his mind, would not give any parliament person the power to vote against him and if they did..he would have them arrested
tdk says to (13:21:02): tmac if thats the case then they need to move quick
tmac096 says to (13:21:20): he will say he had no choice due to some unknown enemy in the government and he is protecting the people and the constitution. He uses it when he needs it.
stlou says to (13:21:36): the worst enemy to Iraq right now IS MALIKI
Mountainman says to (13:21:41): Like Saudi Arabia... maybe Maliki thinks he can just fire the entire Parliment...
tmac096 says to (13:21:58): always has been lou, he is the one holding the country hostage.
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Mountainman says to (13:22:43): or at least arrest em...
stlou says to (13:22:44): and now members of the NA are going to defect from him... and give parliament more votes against him and where is the big banana during all of this? he needs to come out and make a statement.. or show himself.. and see his shadow
Mountainman says to (13:23:38): The best move Parliment can make when they do the vote of no confidence is to also vote to replace Maliki immediately
stlou says to (13:23:45): and declare 5 more weeks of political wrangling the NA has recommended Jafaari already..the former PM the White Party has recommended that prisoner in Texas that got 40% of the Democratic primary vote in WV
Mountainman says to (13:25:36): yes thats true stlou, but Parliment needs to vote Jafaari in immediately to replace Maliki
stlou says to (13:25:56): they are waiting the timeframe given to maliki.. and then they will act
Mountainman says to (13:26:22): lets see if Maliki is voted out then he also loses his govt immunity from prosecution hmmm and then we git to watch Maliki flee Iraq like a duck with his tail on fire... lol
Kitchendesigner says to (13:28:08): I would love to see that!!!
tmac096 says to (13:28:25): watch on the last day maliki will agree to all conditions and want to have a meting on it in a week, then after the week he will say he needs more time to impliment the changes.
Mountainman says to (13:28:59): Kitchendesigner when Maliki goes down you will also see alot of his cronies flee the country also
tmac096 says to (13:29:37): then at the next meeting to review everything he will put the meeting off or make sure no one can show up for it. He is the master at keeping the status quo.
Kitchendesigner says to (13:29:39): Mass exit....hopefully not to us
Chappy says to (13:29:43): leaving with billions....
Mountainman says to (13:29:56): tmac096 they said all points must be implemented during the 15 days ... or else... To the best of my knowledge Maliki has not implemented even one ... yet
Kitchendesigner says to (13:31:17): I hope they have a backbone.....and don't let him slide this time.
tmac096 says to (13:31:18): yes MM but he will agree or he will try to pull the supreme court out and declare it unconstitutional.
Mountainman says to (13:31:49): None of his previous tricks are going to work this time
tmac096 says to (13:31:53): he never will MM, he can't it will undermine his plans to be DICKtator.
stlou says to (13:32:16): now now tmac..
Mountainman says to (13:32:23): although freezing the constitution would be considered a "new trick" lol
stlou says to (13:32:26): let us see how this plays out...
Mountainman says to (13:32:35): indeed
stlou says to (13:32:36): I tend to like what's going on..
tmac096 says to (13:32:36): I hope the other leaders have finally had enough of him and stick together to rid Iraq of their worse enemy.
stlou says to (13:32:53): it is moving a heck of lot faster than it has in the last two years..
glk says (13:32:56): I wonder if the secretarys at the embassy (soldiers) are on alert for some last minute move by Maliki and his son using the military, hopefully the Iraqi army isn't that easily manipulated by Maliki !
tmac096 says to (13:33:21): true lou, and I hope it keeps going, I just don't trust thisw guy at all and never have.
glk says (13:34:03): Hopefully just his personal guards are the only ones blind to his deceitful way....
Mountainman says to (13:35:11): Power is corrupting and even Maliki's guards feel they have power over others and they too want to keep it
Chappy says to (13:36:20): you think M is just doing the bidding of Iran in this...
tmac096 says to (13:36:27): I have a feeling he has some a network of allies set up to help him. I just hope we don't have to re invade the city to take it over again. I wish we would have never left. I'm sure we have assests in place just in case.
Mountainman says to (13:36:40):unfortunately the history of the Iraqi people is to react with power against power, eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth and force is really all they understand
Ranjoesgirl says to (13:37:22):I think compromise and negotiations show weakness in their eyes
Mountainman says to (13:37:24):so I expect plenty of bloodshed before Maliki is put out
tmac096 says to (13:38:53): I don't think so MM he is a coward and will do it the coward way, puxh till it comes to shove and then he will flee.
glk says (13:39:30):I hope not Mountainman, I'm hoping the people of Iraq have seen enough violence and have already planned with the UN and US how to peacefully remove Maliki if it comes to that !
Mountainman says to (13:39:43):Oh tmac096 you really misjudge him... he is a killer with a killers instinct
tmac096 says to (13:40:10):Buthe might leave a trail of blood shed to help him escape. I really wish they would just grab him and give him a pass to gotmo for life.
Mountainman says to (13:40:20):he even has his own private prisons remember
tmac096 says to (13:40:21): gitmo true so lets use one for him
Chappy says to (13:40:41): Pass him to another life...
Mountainman says to (13:41:17): Assasinations are everywhere in Iraq... but nobody can touch him... because he protects himself It would literally take an army to arrest Maliki
Chappy says to (13:42:04): one sniper US grade is sufficient...
glk says (13:42:27): I wonder if he has sent any of his family to England already ? will england take him even if he owns a house there, maybe we should send him to Turkey? LOL
tmac096 says to (13:42:57): Send him to Iran, they love him there.
argos says to (13:43:33): glk - England will take anyone !!
Chappy says to (13:43:48): with money..
Mountainman says to (13:44:10): Well we all are excited to see what is happening this week... let me make on point clear... while all of this is happening... is Parliment or any govt officials doing anything to benefit the economy or help the Iraqi people? Obviously not...
glk says (13:44:20): sorry argos ......
tmac096 says to (13:44:30): I thought they were on holiday MM?
Mountainman says to (13:45:30): right now even though on vacation in the past they still got things done... now... they are all looking at the political fight for power and how to hang on to their own...
glk says (13:45:34): MM I'm hoping some of them are working behind the scenes to keep the momentum going on this. the others are vacationing some place safe !
They couldn't have gone far just in case Nujafi calls an emergency meeting of Parliament
argos says to (13:48:24): they don't deserve holidays or breaks - they've done nothing !!
tmac096 says to (13:52:07): true argos, but they don't let that stop them. lol
Mountainman says to (13:52:29): argos to them its like praying four times a day... its just what they do... sigh
argos says to (13:56:01): I know MM - its mostly to do with religion - but we won't get into that !
glk says (14:07:53): http://www.dinarspeculator.com/showt...e-constitution
glk says (14:08:33): check out this picture of poor Maliki sitting all by himself!
stlou says to (15:05:07): let us see just what comes out of Nuri's mouth today..
busman says to (15:05:20): more BS
stlou he knows he is in a corner, from things the NA are trying to do
Mountainman says to (15:08:58): And has transferred these sources that the plan be used to replace the two persons only and will not be changing any of the ministries or other government sites in order to avoid any problems and Marqlat, they will be voting on the dismissal of al-Maliki
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Maliki and at the same meeting, Dr. Jaafari is no choice in this transaction, without raise obstacles or problems, saying that the United States expressed no objection to this procedure, provided that in accordance with the mechanisms of democracy.
Apparently the US Govt has no objection to Maliki being replaced by Dr. Jaafari
busman says to (15:12:03) i wonder sometime MM, just what is the US thinking
busman says to (15:12:55): imo, we have let this drag out to long
glk says (15:13:18): That is great MM ! why would the US object, they probably encouraged this whole no confidence and helped get the wheels in motion ! Remember Barzani in Washington with Obama. Biden and Hilary !!!
Med says to (15:14:30): STOP THE ENTIRE CHAT OF MOUNTAINMANS NEEDS TO BE POSTED I WANT IT ALL POSTED TY
glk says (15:14:50): The US couldn't just go in and take Maliki out without upsetting the people in the State of Law and natl Alliance, we might have started another civil war, it had to be his own people using democracy
glk says (15:14:59): Ok Med !
Med says to (15:15:08): GREAT JOB MM I REALLY LIKED WATCHING YOU DO IT OK I AM WORKING ON MY ROOF BUT I HAVE CHAT ON
busman says to (15:15:55): you mean him stirring the pot
busman says to (15:17:59): glk, we will see what transpires sunday when M does not meet the demands