KUANYIN: I have been a member here for only a year and an investor and active in other forums for about 4 yrs - In that span of time I have seen and experienced many highs and lows - If there was nothing else going on in the world or my life then “maybe” I would not have reason to get so excited about the possible change in value or so disappointed when the Guru’s rumtel was wrong – AGAIN -
In the past 4 years we have had 2 major- very emotionally heated Presidential elections in the United States- We have been involved even if just mentally – with the elections and government forming with Iraq -- we have had several devastating catastrophes – BP Oil Spill - Japan’s Tsunami & Hurricane Sandy to just mention a few -- I do not know about you and I do confess to being very sensitive but these things hit me pretty hard - I truly feel that most people even if not directly affected physically by these events were still “affected” mentally and / or emotionally – and without emotions being on their sleeves –
It was evident to me by the many responses that others are experiencing an elevation in emotions right now - It was perceived and expressed by many as negative – I did not take the post and words as being negative at all -- It takes a lot of courage to be honest and expose ones human vulnerability -- to risk being criticized, ridiculed, and a disappointment – It also takes strength, passion, compassion, perseverance, and dedication to hang around when many, many gurus have come and gone due to the pressure of delivering RV Hopium day after day after day -- (which satisfies only for a few hours as there has been no delivery of the real RV prize)
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KUANYIN CONTINUES: I received a lot of encouragement and inspiration from the post by way of facts about the investment and how things have progressed albeit slower than I like – lol -- and facts to support the eventual fruition of the RV -- The message I received was that yes emotions were raring their little heads -- Concern about the contention between all the parties in Iraq – Concern about Iraqi citizens suffering - Concern about members selling out - Concern about self-performance - Concern about contention among US government direction – Sadness that we are still waiting - and yes anger that the RV could have already happened and didn’t - I also sensed the emotionss of "Hope" and "Confidence" – definitely none of giving up!
The Iraqi Dinar RV is going to be an event like no other in history – Being a participant in this investment with all the learning about currencies - trading - all the 3-letter agencies (IMF – CBI – etc) and the government has been an enormous undertaking to say the least – especially when one is coming into it with absolutely no knowledge of the playing field -
I would like to encourage all to honor their emotions and allow for acknowledging their presence – then to release the negative ones that will rob their joy and peace and cripple their thinking and positive actions - Be also aware of others who might also be struggling with theirs – Be Kind Be Understanding – Be Patient and Be Supportive - Have a Great Evening --- Namaste KUANYIN
SGILES: Y'know...I got into this because I was given a gift of a few dinar. I dropped a couple of grand into it and I have sat back and waited.
Last month I went to CA for a few days and dropped twice as much on hotels, food, and entertainment. I have gotten much more bang for my buck by owning my dinar.
Holding dinar has been a whole lot of fun. I see a Shelby Mustang and instead of pining over it, I smile and say, "after the RV I will get me one of those".
I have bought a whole car collection, built a couple of custom homes, retired, taken exotic trips, bought amazing electronics, and so many other things...all in the fantasy of a few million dinar.
I wouldn't trade this ride for anything! I have gotten far more out of my dinar holdings than I have the last five vacations.
Hang on, guys. Enjoy the ride, and realize that the currency you hold could not be worth less, ONLY MORE!
Keep dreaming, keep hoping, and live each day in an effort to work, play hard, and spend a few minutes on this site following the dinar. Whether it ends up in your grandkid's monopoly game or funds all your dreams,you will still get up, face the day, and be happy.
I feel like I know many of you from your many posts. I have had some great off-line conversations with some of you and enjoy each of you immensely.
Thanks for letting me hang with you and I look forward to reading more arabish and planning my next dream home LOL!
FAST EDDIE: There comes a time when we all throw our hands up in the air & want to start to throw things - I wish I had a heavy bag hang up where I could go punch it & let out my pain bye cause the bag pain. Now you know my sitution & you have thrown a few ideas out for me to try I know you only want to help me find a way to get through this without selling my dinars.
There comes a time when we have all make the choice just as we did when we bought into this & it is how long do we stay how much do we sell off when we have no choice. Many times you have shown us when the CBI was ready to make a change after the fact that it should have happened.
So it comes down to shall we call this a messed up timing & sit back holding our heads or do we pick oursleves back up off the ground & move forward while holding on to the life lines we have. Yes we all need to vent yes we all need to PICK OURSLVES back up off the ground & say well that was a nice trip & fall I am still alive so I will keep on trucking forward.
You say to us "let it come to you" . I know I have heard even a dictator has to have currency worth a value look at saddam when he was in office he had it over 3 * with less in their reserves. It will come maybe not right away but it will come we all must pull together & fight the negative thoughts.
I was told to sell all my dinars & get out by someone who think they should be running my life & it make me want to stay in longer because this is my decision not theirs I know GOD will come through for me in the long run & he will test us to see if we are sure this is right for us, So remember its all in GODS hands now. ( god will make the UN, IMF, US & anyone else involved do the right thing for this to happen in his time)
BREEZIN: All, there is something that we must consider and that is Maliki has been funneling USD to Iran (and possibly Syria) against sanctions. This act alone gives the UN/US the right to come in and spank him severely.
With the election over, and four years to the next, the mistakes of pulling the troops out too soon are no longer a black eye for the current US administration. I personally believe this funneling of money to a known terrorist country that is developing a weapon of mass destruction is the perfect reason to reset the game table. JMHO
TAMMY44: "Keep dreaming, keep hoping, and live each day in an effort to work, play hard, and spend a few minutes on this site following the dinar. Whether it ends up in your grandkid's monopoly game or funds all your dreams,you will still get up, face the day, and be happy."
....and that is exactly what I do, work hard, play hard, on DA too much (lol), no grandkids, but happy. Nicely stated, sgile
Zul: We all have been there at one time or another.
But the clash between Maliki and Shabibi is the clash of loyalty and indebtedness towards two opposing sides. Shabibi to IMF and Maliki to Iran and Syria. I dont think they are having differences in policies.
In fact, history shows, the initial 5 yrs plan to increase the value of dinar (in 2005), was triggered by GOI,
PASTOR MIKE: This seems like a good place to put my two cents worth in (around 11 dinar worth.) When I first heard about the dinar investment I wanted to know what the Bible said about Iraq, (if in fact it said anything). My research found that Iraq is also Babylon.
(Interesting fact, Babylon comes from the word meaning “to confuse”) Anyway, I wanted to see if there was any indication that Iraq would be prosperous in the future. In the book of Revelation it clearly shows that Babylon (Iraq) will be very prosperous. (Not very moral, but definitely prosperous.)
This shows that our investment WILL eventual pay off. So, let’s not get discouraged. We just need to wait for it. IMHO.
PEPPERRUB: Its unify or die with Iraq. Because there are so many factions in the government and a high quorum requirement in the parliment, any few can step out to leverage changes and nothing gets done. Pretty soon they will get fed up and conform or go back to a dictatorship format that they are used to living under whether good or bad.
ECCL519: Listen, please...go back to the basics of this investment:
1) why is the new IQD note one of, if not the most technologically advanced notes in the world? Ans: So it can't be counterfitted.
2) Who would ever want to counterfit a stinkin Dinar? Ans: Exactly.
3) Why are these brand new large, high tech IQD bills available to the American people and the rest of the world in such abundance? WHY??
4) Why and Who would invest massive amounts of money to print way more of this extravagent currency than the country of Iraq needs to survive? Only to be (khowingly) changed down the road for another permanent currency? What?? Doesn't sound like a good investment to me!! Unless these high grade bills have a plan (set by the investers) to explode in value at a given time.
5) How can these (seemingly) unsupervised Iraqi children who do not trust each other as far as they can throw each other, with 5th and 8th grade educations ever be trusted to accomplish anything??!! Let alone the intricacies and structure of a functioning, constitutional democracy? Ans: This is a weeding process with stop-gap measures put in place by the original investers powered by Ch 7, US, UN IMF, BIS, WTO....many more. Now that the chosen US administration is in place, watch how fast things unfold. We are in a good place and we are still in plan "A"
Carrello: I think we can all agree that we have all have felt the ups and downs of this investment, but I truly feel we are close and we need to hold together, continue to support the DA team, and be patient.
I found this opinion piece from Shafaaq news which speaks to Maliki's aspirations, but laser points to the goals of Iraq, the region, and the international community. We focus of Maliki and his thuggish actions, but I think it is helpful to see other viewpoints from Iraq, and now that our election is over, I believe we will see the effects of US pressure.
Watch for Maliki in the next few weeks: he will be the one shooting from the toothpaste tube and can't get back in, and the only thing you can do with a dicator-wanna-be out of the tube is to wash him down the Euphrates.
The horrifying return of fear Republic and the disastrous endings for Maliki’s ambitions
Saman Sorani/ Although the world is changing with its motives , tools , powers , maps and its theater actors, there are some people who are still dealing with fixed , rigid or fossilized ideas as well as destructive and terrifying ideas also.
One of those is the Iraqi Prime Minister, who believes that the Iraqi project is something of his own only , while in fact in the Federal Iraq and according to the constitution , things are no longer like that, because interests and destinies intertwine in the Iraqi arena, it also witnessed government crises and differences between Baghdad and Kurdistan governments as well as deteriorated security and the spread of violence,
so we believe that future projects in this country are no longer a Maliki affair , it became of a global dimension in which countries , regional or international bodies contribute in its formulation and translating .
While to what is associated to the recent media campaigns led by Mr. Prime Minister with his advisers against Kurdistan government, especially their quest to mobilize the Iraqi public opinion against the President of the Region in order to curtail the role of the Kurdistan, as these are negative shifts that aim to return to train ideas and prepare minds towards national hibernate and religious forts.
These transformations have been experimented in the past and its result was starting wars against Kurdistan peaceful people and the peoples of the neighboring countries as well as creating the Republic of Fear with its disastrous ends.
The Prime Minister had formed years ago , a paramilitary force of his own under the so-called “Awakening forces ” to be associated with him personally and receive orders from him only, not from any other person, to show his power only.
Then he began returning the former symbols of the regime to the army and handed over the military file in Kirkuk province sectioned from its Kurdish areas and other adjacent Kurdish areas to the border of the current region to a Baathist commander -called al-Zaidi , who has proven his ability to change the mask of loyalty and become trusted to Mr. al-Maliki and his right arm in implementing his approach based on making loyalty personal to him mainly in military and security leaders peace, to manage “the Tigris Operations Command.”
And what we know that al- Zaidi had many experiences in the field of ethnic cleansing, as he had participated at the time of the dominant Saddam in notorious Anfal operation, which claimed the lives of more than 182 thousand peaceful Kurdish citizens.
We believe that any military adventure of the Prime Minister in Kurdistan will stir the political scales toward nothing and be fated to the industry of disaster and calamity as any attempt to push the Iraqi army in a sectarian and racism war with the region will be a violation to the constitution that will eventually lead to make the Kurdish street lose confidence in Arab politicians in federal Iraq and makes submitting demand of right in self-determination a fate.
The implications of these negative steps will undermine the idea of citizenship and will mine the democratic institution and will be dangerous to the point not on the region only, but on Iraq and the Iraqis, Maliki is forgetting that the national time that has witnessed its last wars that have lost is over.
The regiments of volunteers to the “final war” might arrive and as always too late, so we see them after that they became disappointed blew themselves up on their families and their friends in religion, nationalism and the nation.
Living in the current time and understanding this globalized world with the ideas and tools of the past era is an evidence of failure to walk in the footsteps of civilization, because Imperial period will not return as thought by the head of the” State of law ” only in comic cartoon or terrorist devastating shape for the gains of the time after the fall of the Baathist, chauvinist and sectarian regime.
It is known that rooted differences between Kurdistan and Baghdad government cannot be limited in oil and gas law, in the extraction of oil wealth from Kurdistan and benefit from it in the reconstruction , prosperity, development and progress of the region, Article 140 of the Constitution and the issue of not considering the Peshmerga forces as a part of the Iraqi forces , exchanging the required provisions for them from the budget of the Ministry of Defense and arming them like the rest of Iraqi army forces system lies in the uncivil non-democratic vision of the President of the “state of law” about one of the main rights of the people of Kurdistan stipulated in the International agreement on Economic, Social and Cultural , Civil and Political Rights issued by the UN General Assembly in 1966
in which its first article stipulates that all peoples have the right to self-determination , build its politic body and their economic, social and cultural freedom; without that recoil Salafi content will dominate the enlightening and future dimension and the superiority of exclusion mentality over the recognition, partnership and exchange language.
Finally, we say: “The shaping, taming, mobilizing the society does not benefit the country and the people and the obsession of maintaining the state and power can’t be on the top over the truth and justice.”
PART 1 "THE SAD TRUTH" BY KAPERONI DINAR ALERT