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PTR Morning Call 9 16 2011 Notes from Cvfallbrook
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Dan: Cant’ tell you how this call will turn out, information being what it is. Tony said he’d be a little late. Did a call last night… not always good… know there is some frustration out there and people that do believe that the IQD will rv. Not a sprint this is a marathon.
Tell me if you know something better to wait on than this. Today you will hear something from us about – where are we really… hearing green lights, amber lights etc… at banks…. Etc.
The fact is this thing is on hold period. Don’t know what to tell you other than rumor. We asked Tony to provide that rumor. Have to appreciate that everything that is being said we try to verify as best we can.
Gary you are hearing things similar?
Gary: 2 different sources went to an airport, currency exchange and tried to exchange their iqd and where told had to come back the next day… Tuesday same thing happened to them. A relative had same experience at the bank. He saw the rate and that the rate was green, said they couldn’t process it but to come back today. I do believe him. It’s green but not moving to next step to be able to process it.
A friend went to meet with a friend at a top 3 bank… bank said yes was aware of status of IWD but did not expect it to happen immediately cause on hold. A lot of people seeing it on screens but can’t process it. Did have a couple of reasons given to us for that. Dan you and I talked about that – some people from overseas said a political situation holding it up. Both you and I and Tony were addressing another political situation that could be holding it up. We are trying to find out now if it can be done shortly.
Dan: Don’t know if Tony will be able to verify what he will get. We did hear from Dr. Todd on Tuesday and his thought about Iraq was that we wouldn’t hear anything after 12 Baghdad time… you know unless I get real confirmation I am a little skeptical anyways.
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We have a strong group of people trying to figure this out. On a conversation last night was said they really don’t know what is taking so long should be over. Dr. Todd said if not today then should be Sunday as next window… we are saying the next business day that is open. All the people sharp enough to see what is going on saying what is going on? What reason would we be on hear doing this… not buyg dinar from Tony or me! None of us are selling it. Here because we believe in it. Can take us to a different plane financially.
Believe this was put together a long time ago for all of our benefits and the benefit of the entire monetary system. I am really glad for our team who does get good, credible information.
Think about what I said last night. I was just feeling the need for us to get back to the basics. We are looking for information when it comes up. Can’t get any closer. We are right next to the fact that it is about to be lit off. Don’t give up – don’t let the negative people get you there. Some of you are really tested right now. Back up for now and take a break. A lot of very good, strong people have had to do that. This could happen tonight, Sunday, Monday etc… we don’t know what it is.
Right now want to hear what you guys are thinking. We are working on a few things behind the scenes. I don’t know when this will happen.
Chief: I was on mute and had it turned off….
Dan: Have been trying to connect with Viper and Chief. Chief are you seeing anything different?
Chief: Everyone I talk to say it’s coming it’s coming. I read Enoreste’s post and it is all positives. Everything about the value of the dinar, the cbi etc. I believe that the bill was pushed into parliament for at least 5-6 weeks. Don’t see why not done already. They won’t come out and tell everyone – will just happen when the opportune moment comes about. Everything is in line. Like you said just a matter of when.
Dan: Chief do you see that as bad news?
Chief: No I don’t. When I sort of dropped off the boards for a while to stop dealing with the negative people doesn’t mean I totally backed off. I feel we are very much on top of this thing. Some people very high up that I know are scratching their heads. Hard to say who really has the ball on this. I firmly believe M and it is that power struggle thing and part of the delay. Till we see a full goi announced nothing will happen.
Dan: Tony just joined us. Chief I appreciate that. You can stay pretty grounded cause you know these contacts who give you the information you need to do that. I appreciate you bringing that.
Chief: Told a friend I went to High school with this about a month ago. He had no clue his neighbor had been invested for some time. His neighbor had a contact in NY bank that said they had signed something last week about the iqd. Didn’t specify what that was. There’s a lot of positive things going on. Have some wonderful rumors out there that no one knows what the hell to believe. There are some fantastic articles that coincide with people I do hear from.
Texas Guy: Want to add something about keeping your eye on the ball. We hear so much on these boards. I don’t go to any other boards or listen to other calls cause I don’t want them to mess with my head. I can’t handle the mood swings that I create myself. Take a chill pill and focus on what we have here at the PTR family. Tony does a great job for all of us to bring all of the information to the table and let us decipher that. We have heard so much since November when I got involved that I have been in there with all of you guys. My suggestion is to chill out and back off and let it come to us. I have done my share of praying and I am sure everyone else on the line has. This week, even the Europe market has been up. Oil up. Dollar is up. Don’t know how well that plays in this but there is a lot of positive things and we should help each other stay positive.
Chief: I have something in my documents I need to find. An analysis that someone has done – from 2002-2008 – they broke down rv’s and there was no set pattern. It was everyday of the week. They broke it down to so many on each day. For all we know could be any day… don’t think that really matters… what ever Shabbibi is waiting on I have no idea other than M to push a button, I don’t know. Think it could happen at any time.
Tony: Man. I don’t know whether to be excited or depressed. I am saying that cause I have heard everything… that it was over at 5 yesterday…. Drop dead… the extensions given…. To it has to happen…. It is all over the board today. The only thing I can take from that since it is so crazy is it must be hear.
Yesterday we were waiting for the markets to open… then for them to close. Heard from a good source in Iraq is they have done everything. Signed everything. That it was at the IMF as the final person. Heard from the UST last week and again Tuesday that it was all done… that final docs signed… that tax rate was 15% just waiting to pull the switch. Last night we heard that O stopped it cause he wants the tax rate higher… we heard that a month ago and that it was released…. Now a higher tax… or that we gets his job deal passed… and that is not even on the table yet.
I am hearing that banks lights are still green and seeing the numbers… forex people saying their lights are green and they are ready to go. If it was stopped why would they still be green? Got conflicting stories there…. Has something to do with what is going on in Europe… heard that there were some docs that where signed last night in Europe… very conflicting information. Was on the phone this morning and giving iut to you guys raw. You can try to make some contacts to see what you can verify.
It could be in next hour…. Lights still green. Non red. No one told it was stopped. Got from a very big institution that it was supposed to happen last Sunday now hearing Tuesday.
Heard another reason, but that could be resolved in 30 minutes… our govt just told England they would give them all the $$ they need to stabilize things…. The post office announced it’s issues…. Where will that come from?
The news things we saw from Fox about a global monetary movement – moved from last weekend to this one. We know it is coming cause they brought it to the news. There’s the things we got from England at the airport about the exchanger stopping the exchange cause they were waiting for the new rate. They didn’t just decide to do that on their own. Hearing from the exchange in Canada that they are getting notification… this could be like at the end in China etc… confusion before it happens…everything is good. It hasn’t stopped. No one saying not going to do it or the craziness of 2012. Everything is still green. Every other time we had a serious problem we would hear it went back to amber… none of that has occurred.
Dan: I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. Just kidding. I think it is all good. No one is saying it is not happening. I did this so that I could retire and help some other people. Although not as fast as we want it to we are still almost there. With nobody saying it is not happening that is good. We don’t know for sure when this is happening.
Tony: It has been one crazy morning. We got some things from different places today that are still saying there is a hold up but not that it couldn’t be resolved within 20-30 minutes…some saying it was resolved and trying to work out how to present it.
? Alluded to a while back then when this comes through would be great for us but things put in place that would jeopardize our economy. Anything about our reserve status as a country?
Dan: I’m not.
Tony: Months back… not today’s problem. We know that China requested that the USD be removed as the reserve currency… they talked about making the Euro the reserve currency for a 2 year period of time… heard that the IQD would be backed by the oil standard, wanted to change things back to the gold standard. This could occur in the future. We talked back in Jan or Feb that the USD would drop…. The plan didn’t work out how was supposed to cause the rv didn’t happen when supposed to. Good possibility that we could still go through that. The Super committee is in October and going through the budget again… don’t think they can play with the USD as much at this time or that the removal of the USD as the reserve currency would happen at this time with so much going on.
? Have a comment then a ?. My business partner got up at 4 am yesterday. Said she was watching the Asian Market news off of CNN. Said they were talking about the ME rv’ing their money but they were concerned and thinking about not doing it at this time. I don’t think you guys should change at all the way you are doing things.
Poll on forum overwhelming yesterday that you shouldn’t change a thing. You give us little pointers like, don’t believe everything, or that we will hear a lot of misinformation… so as soon as she told me that, I thought this is what you are saying and that it was to throw people off. I think Dr. Todd’s comment about – they didn’t scrap the shuttle launch for bad weather….or you have a due date for the baby being born.
My comment is don’t take the nay-sayers on the board seriously. Don’t let it get to you guys. Overwhelmingly people don’t want you to change your style. It allows us to choose this and get to the common sense of it.
Dan: I appreciate what you said. We are not looking for what we would change – more what we can add. Can only say so many times I believe it is happening and I believe it is happening but not today. My wife said throughout my career usually I am enhancing things… our thinking is what can we add to enhance things.
Tony: I want to say… you have Dan down patt… You are truly right. Dan cares so much about you guys that he feels he is not giving enough and that there is something else we can do… how else can we be helping you guys… He is trying to say are we giving them all we can give them?
? Are you actually looking at bank screens? Would it show up on the CBI before anything?
Tony: It is Iraq and it is their deal and they want it up there first. What I do know from several banks and executives is this thing has been sitting on their screens green and ready for 2 weeks. They have memos telling them. No same thing from Forex people – not the local Forex person – people in the systems. Hearing that it is at both of these places. When I heard this I called Frank at DB and he said he could find nothing … don’t know how this is going to work…. His trader and everything else I heard this morning is they may or may not the moment it happens. Told him I may know before them.
This whole thing is crazy and not going how it will go. I think we will know beore you know, before it goes public cause those are the contacts we have. We won’t say anything till it is public cause it has changed so many times. We have people in the meetings or down the hallway… we are sometimes participating in the event and then the information changes…
Dan: The texting service is ok – sometimes doesn’t go out 45 minutes to an hour cause of your service…. We have saved texting for the event and special event. We try to hold that for what’s important… Grip did call to tell me some messages etc last night… can’t do this for everybody… all these calls are done for the everybody…
? Do you think that something as simple as the issue as M and S – I believe that the banks have been notified etc… do you remember the issue with the Trade Bank of Iraq where M removed a guy and put in someone? M went to S for a loan… tried to discredit S… S files a suit…. Think those 2 need to come into an agreement for this to happen. Is it as simple as that or what?
Tony: You are very well informed as far as that goes. The issue did come up last Thursday and Friday. Part of reason why S came back from England. Was an issue involving a lot of $$. He came back to sign the document and hearing it was signed. S can’t remove M or it would have been done.
This is Iraq but also the whole world. This plan was put in place 10+ years ago. M is not the guy, O is not the guy to ruin this for the whole world cause of their personal wishes. When it comes down to that point – he would have been sacrificed if he was the only one holding it up. Don’t think it is the $$ it is something much bigger than that and it is not M. Not O either. Very good information and a good ?
? I would also encourage people to hang in there – I appreciate you saying that Dan.
Dan: I agree with you. I had a good friend h=who had me purchase dinar for them and hold onto it for them. Came to a point that they needed some $ and I sold some until 300,000 left and I said – you can’t sell this. What are you going to do with $300? If all you have is 100,000…. That’s why we gave some away….. to me a big deal. Hang onto this – 25k may not seem to be a big deal but it could be $100k when it rv’s.
Dan: We will take 3-4 calls on this call.
? Dan – are you still going to be getting into the rental properties?
Dan: Don’t know…. Talked with my wife about it. I invested a lot in the dinar… and then when it comes out how many $$ do you need? Will do investment properties… at SF will talk about commercial real estate, groups of homes, leveraging volume. Will always be interested in Real Estate… the most solid thing out there. Don’t know about the landlord situation but the majority of my $$ will go into Real Estate.
My wife said she didn’t see me letting someone else buy the homes. That she and I would be driving around looking at houses…. If you have a limited amount – doing something like that would be incredible we will talk about that in SF… we will talk about flipping commercial properties, getting the properties ready for building on etc…
? How sure are you about the 15% tax?
Tony: Not positive. Heard last week that the 15% was final and passed through and then last night heard stopped cause O wanted more taxes… both can’t be true. Won’t know till it is announced.
? Are people having trouble with their Flash player through the Bull on the iphone?
Golfer Dan: Need to check your java player – not flash. When you see the little cup when you launch it click on that and clear your cache. Put this in the forums.
? Saw an article on proposed taxes that they started working on in March. Already working on what O threatened to do for those with over a million $...
Note: Bull stopped broadcasting here…… I picked the call up on Skype at:
? Will you have a meet and greet line in SF?
Dan: Will be 4 different hotel rooms so will have to move around. Hope it is in 2 weeks!
? Last night Frank and Delta had an interesting post. Said S is in complete control and he will go ahead and do it. A strong word they used on that post – in Arabic that it can’t be changed…
Tony: Got that last week from some very prominent people –would blow you out of the water… he said it was done…. They may be having their differences here but doesn’t mean it has anything to do with this. If they weren’t done with it never would have gone through the exercise we did with Forex and the banks. That’s why I believe they did that. I do believe that statement. Nothing new to me. I agree with it personally.
? That word means no stopping it in Arabic. It said M would be removed from power. S fed up with him etc….
Tony: Back in Jan/Feb were on a timeline based on the RV so if this does happen that could make the 2nd half of that fit into the plan as it was laid out earlier in the year. Don’t know that anyone should be saying anything about that. Might be a little too soon to have printed that.
? Since this is such an earth shattering even why is it on none of the news networks?
Dan: Do they normally get out there and say gold is at $700 and going to $1500 tomorrow but no one should buy…. We are talking about a 4000% increase possibly and that currency could affect all the other baskets… the Paris agreement… why would they get on national tv and talk about this – no one was supposed to know about this. They shouldn’t be allowed to talk about this.
Tony: I got this – 2 things… they are … glimpse on yahoo, fox news, Chinese news they were talking about global event etc… I got from one of our agencies that all news agencies were instructed by individual govts not to talk about this. That agency said yes they were talking about the rv.
We do have censorship. Everyone has a misconception about our country. The free-ist country in the world but there are some limits. Look at who owns all the papers, the news stations, you’ll see they are all still related to the govt. Still some restrictions on the media cause certain things can’t be said that would cause disaster on the markets… etc. Even though free-ist country in the world everything is not free.
Dan: Hope we brought some enlightenment to the dark. I do get the privilege to talk with Tony Gary and the mods… as you know we are gone for the weekend. If things change some one will contact you so relax.
Tony: Just so you know…. I smoke cigars and have drinks anyways cause I enjoy myself so it should be no surprise if you hear I am doing that.
Dan: Have a good weekend everybody!
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