Reader Comments From "The Business Deal Of The World" By JC Collins
Steve Henningsen (@Stevephenni) I can’t remember if I passed along Golem’s ponderings to you before, but like you, he has deep thoughts and also similar to you his perspective comes from outside the U.S. Anyway, at the least I think you would enjoy it.
D Mac Rockefeller’s swinging into renewable energy… Listen to the video! She really sounds sincere and sweet… I would have never thought a Rockefeller would sound human… I need to re-think some things… http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-29310475
Rockefeller Brothers Fund director Stephen Heintz said dryly that “everyone noted the irony” that a foundation built on oil wealth would now be leading the charge out of fossil fuel.
Actor Mark Ruffalo, who also signed the pledge, told the conference: “These are not silly people, these are people who know how to deal with money.”
D Mac, unless there is monetary changes to oil subsidies, these are just hollowed out words the plutocrats use to prance in front of the masses.
There’s a great deal of metaphorical ironies here, the biggest being the implication the Rockefellers would be in any way benevolent plutocrats or that news media would ever give the worshiping masses any full on semblance of the truth in anything they output.
JC Collins has explored some of the failings of man and the tribalist structure of the masses which creates the plutocratic crust of society, it is simply by analysis of these things from within that we can better understand empty gestures such as these.
It also helps immensely to be skeptical and to find hard currencies in information to illuminate that which is truly happening, often in such things its often rewarding to follow the flow of monetary currency as it is often a primary motivator in most of mans actions.
D Mac: Come on, the bad guys are now turning their leaf over Fingers crossed.. Wouldn’t it be nice.
irrelevant111: The ships Captain inspected his sailors on deck n afterward told the 1st mate they smelled really bad. The Captain then suggested the men change their underwear occasionally. 1st mate replied, ” aye aye sir, I’ll see to it immediately”.
The 1st mate approached the men n said, ” the Capt’n thinks you guys smell bad n wants u to change your underwear. Morris you change w Art, McCarthy u w Smith n Johnson u change w Collins”. Moral…
Someone may come along promising change, but still doesn’t come out smelling better…:)
Tommydelicious: Calahan, you’ve said “….It also helps immensely to be skeptical and to find hard currencies in information to illuminate that which is truly happening, often in such things its often rewarding to follow the flow of monetary currency as it is often a primary motivator in most of mans actions.”
I agree. As a market follower I’ve witnessed hundreds of millions of dollars flowing into alt energy beginning last fall.
There is posturing going on, and I would suspect it’s inside info (not saying Rock….per se but could be) and not the average investor who doesn’t know much about alt energy companies and is not willing to gamble much at this point.
It is truly all about money flow…….and yes, money has been flowing into alt energy for the past year.
The future is in alt energy, clean and as renewable as possible. If there’s money to be made by leading the charge, you can bet the Rocks and other big players who’ve made their fortunes on oil will be riding that horse.
irrelevant111: The folly of man becomes disheartened w complacency. Nothing one may say will alleviate the struggle. We are bound by the rule of adaptation to change. Only because we r pawns in the chessboard of life. Our saving grace is the capacity to interact n if chance provides the fold enlightenment or a higher order in the name of truth, there may be balance. Time will tell…
dripfood: ‘Imbalance’ can also be viewed as ‘motion’…. or ‘creation’. I sometimes call it ‘illusion’, although ‘virtual reality’ has a better ring to it :-)
I guess the sting of perceived imbalance depends on the degree of seperation (or deficiency) one has allowed oneself to play with.
Words are creation in motion and as such are creating balance and imbalance simultaniously.
Two Chines proverbs come to mind:
2. The Truth is guarded by confusion and paradox.
1. Never speak before being sure your words are more beautiful than silence.
I apologize for ignoring the latter proverb… :-)
matt (@speedspirit42): JC if you want to look at usdebtclock.org produced by the U.S. Department of State (2014), you see the national debt at more than $17 trillion and a national liability (US Unfunded Liabilities) at more than $128 trillion for a total liability of more than $145 trillion.
Now compare the $145 trillion to national assets (federal and state governments, corporations, charitable organizations, and private (families) at $112 trillion; I assume that our personal assets are on the line to respond to the high probability of a national debt default.
Roger Parness: Nice pic. Back up and load the pickup. Will need a TARP. Wonder what 145 Trillion in gold bars looks like?
Bill Sodomsky: Hi JC. First time comment. I’m extremely impressed with your blog on a number of levels. I hope to be adding some constructive commentary in the days ahead.
For now, could you please expand on what you mean by gold adding to one’s “financial stability” during this inevitable transition in the world’s monetary system. Perhaps you could also weigh in on what may happen to various paper assets when SDR’s rule the day.
Thanks in advance and please keep up the great work. I’ll be recommending your site to others.
Roger Parness “The Truth is guarded by confusion and paradox”. Agreed.
Diogenes searches on.
The analysis presented in this brilliant blog touches upon truth by attempting to pierce the fog of confusion and paradox.
Yet I often feel, in reading this blog, a defeatist conclusion that the Masters are in control and all the evil before us is planned.
BIS, Rothschild, Rockefeller, IMF, Vatican etc. ad nauseum are chaos driven liars. They are reactive rather than creative. Their plans only appear brilliant to we small players.
Ultimately they are helpless before their own greed. They will cannibalize themselves.
The fact that they strive for absolute control will be their undoing and I believe the idea that they are in the end game of a masterful international chess match is incorrect. They are trapped like cornered rats. Pawn to G8 checkmate. We win. They never saw it comin’.
The evil will collapse by it’s own intention. The current machinations are fueled by desperation not genius. The perception that the Masters are in full control is just confusion and paradox. Ain’t true.
The price of gold has been suppressed out of desperation and the fools have lost their gold to the East.
Gold remains the foundation and the bombs and bullets will run out when the gold is gone.
Truth is to be found in the hearts of good men.
Calahan (@Saharahan): The only confusion and paradox I can analytically conclude Roger is this, mans philosophical sin is his own ignorance to self, while failing to reflect and contrast to that around him.
Man is still a primitive animal beholden to lame stereotypes, his mind works towards heuristics, his instincts and impulses still the driver of an easy majority of his decisions.
The “masters” are not really the masters, they’re a reflection of self and of the tribal masses. History repeats, and so it is doing so again presently, the consolidation of human systems is nothing new but a cycle repeating itself to completion yet again.
I’m enjoying studying this with the Qin dynasty of China, considered the first Imperial dynasty of China as there are a great deal of contrasts in the ways this state attempts to homogenize the masses to conform and lame them into a super state, something we may be seeing with the internet/social media.
To note a popular European equivalent to China’s Qin would be the bankers first populist puppet of France, Napoleon and his conformist propaganda to nationalize and consolidate the people and their costumes under the appropriation state to bring them to servitude.
Further examples of this to the extreme can be seen with the advancement of another puppet, being Hitler and his Nazi socialist government, I found their nationalization of Christmas to be quite the stark example, though the irony should not escape us here that such a holiday here is laughably artificial and appropriated under the powers of corporate commercial interest.
“Good men”, something which is limited in the box called perception, people are terribly local, they can not perceive for themselves in the shoes of another individual, or it should be said rarely do they ever project this way.
Rarely when people give a monetary value to others in donations its often responsibility deferred to an outside entity, often as such a chunk of these charities scam feeding of the naivety of the masses.
The masses can’t be blamed entirely, despite their philosophical sin(ignorance) most are born into a system designed to malign them of self and of economy.
It makes me wonder sometimes, if it took two world wars to consolidate human systems through economical means, what would it take to break man out of the present philosophical system?
One thing I know for sure is that a decided majority of humanity at present is deficient in the needed philosophical state for such a scenario to happen, for people lack the perception or even the resolve to rise above and perceive outside of themselves.
JC Collins: Calahan, that is an excellent summary of the current condition of man.
Roger Parness: Yes. Lack of perception and resolve would be the limiting factors. Bonds of ignorance. Where are the perceptive resolved leaders of a better world?
Dripfood: The proverb is actually quite a literal pointer to Truth, or the natural state, where opposits meet. I guess the West expresses this pointer within the symbolism of Boaz and Jachin.
There is this placeless place where hope and hopelessness meet (as well as defeat and victory) and both opposites loose all meaning. It is closer than any thought or feeling.
It’s all an inside job. Every generalization of Man or Master is actually an expression of a most intimate and hidden part of the personality of the utterer of such generalization..
A part that is dying to be brought out of ignorance into awareness and be embraced on the spot.
I believe the proverb “the first will be the last and the last will be the first” is also a pointer to this Truth behind the veil of language and reason.
Roger Parness: History is written by the victors who have hung the heroes. “Sr.William Wallace” I’d like to consider this idea that history repeats:
1. How can we know true history. Our educational system and books are fully compromised
2. If they hung the heroes then the true history as manifest by the good and brave men of the past is lost to us.
3. The Masters will lie and lie and lie until we are convinced slavery and ignorance are all we humans have ever experienced. Not. There are and always have been free men.
4. Confusion and paradox are the tools of the deceivers, the bonds of the people and NOT TRUE HISTORY.
5. Propaganda is not actual history.
6. I conclude a true human history from what is innate within myself, my Dad, my friends and the many many other men of good will living and who have ever lived. Can’t you feel all those guys?
7. I remain optimistic despite the provided alleged facts.
8. We the People; caring, sharing and doing good remains the history that is as true as any and should be amplified and broadcast.
9. What’s different today from all of human history is a cross cultured world unity, a vastly entangled economic system and a war machine that cannot be resisted by small arms. Evil repeats it’s lies. Goodness remains despite.
Tommydelicious: “Goodness remains despite”
It’s a yin/yang world, the singularity divided, to see itself in the reflection. Goodness remains, as does evil, and both are necessary. I really enjoyed what you’ve written Roger and Calahan. Thank you for that.
Dripfood…….are you familiar with the first agreement (as written by Don Miguel Ruiz)? Be impeccable with your word. The word has the power to create heaven here on earth…….I think you get that. As always, thank you.
Dripfood: Hi Tommy, I hadn’t heard of Don Miguel, but I like his first Agreement. Unfortunately, much of my languaging is unfiltered by the heart. The consequences are often painful.
Jose Johnson: Said nicely Calahan and what JC has been making clear in POM. Broad is the way that leads to destruction. Narrow is the path leading to life and few find it !! I don’t like to quote scripture because I rarely read it but the words bubbled up.
Paradox is a lot closer to how reality really works and not the pleasure-seeking, seperatist thinking we as a majority are accustomed to wanting aka the “good life”.
The path to individuation is extremely scary to the every day Joe or what the alchemists of old call the “vulgar” or “common herd”. I know I am one of the “vulgar” working and seeking the help of nature to engage the narrow path.. Just talk to a regular joe in the street about putrefaction or nigredo and they will cry.
I for one am grateful for JC and POM and all the people here that are contributing because there is something beautiful being produced here.
irrelevant111: Gods Blessing to man is free will. We all peck n paw n fill our loving cup as we journey. It is what defines man. Gotta smile along the way. Food for thought…:)
Susan Morris: Wonderful comments above that really resonate. Can we overcome this collective ‘evil’ by focusing on our inner ‘good’? I hope so, because for the moment it looks like this to me:
daneackerman: Another piece of the puzzle has been solidified. After six months of what sounds very similar to the US election process of electoral manipulation, vote recounts and such. This shows US time and labor investing in the middle east.
If the US is moving towards the middle east it leaves one to wonder what will happen with all the US military bases in the EU and that famous missile defense system Russia kept complaining about the US building along its borders.
Here are a couple of points of view on the Afghanistan election situation.
The BBC reports.
“Ashraf Ghani has been sworn in as Afghanistan’s new president, replacing Hamid Karzai in the country’s first democratic transfer of power.
The Kabul ceremony followed six months of deadlock amid a bitter dispute over electoral fraud and a recount of votes.
Under a US-brokered unity deal Mr Ghani shares power with runner-up Abdullah Abdullah who becomes chief executive.
The Taliban called the deal a “US-orchestrated sham”.”
And Aljazeera reports.
“Ashraf Ghani has been sworn is as the new president of Afghanistan in a lavish ceremony at the presidential palace in Kabul, ending months of turmoil over a fraud tainted election.
The former finance minister was inaugurated in a grand event on Monday marking the country’s first democratic transfer of power since the fall of the Taliban in 2001.
“I am not better than anyone from among you. If I do any good, give me your support. If I go wrong, set me right,” Ghani said.””
D Mac: JC, what do you think of the recent release of the 47.5 hours of secret GS recordings basically revealing the fact that they control the Fed? Was this getting out a part of “their” process? Or?
This certainly is big news. Why have you not posted it in your news-feed? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-28/i-am-putting-everything-goldman-sachs-because-these-guys-can-do-whatever-hell-they-w Thanks!
JC Collins: It is big news for sure. The only reason I haven’t posted it is I’ve been so busy with other items and wanted to see how the story progressed over the next few days. Instead of a simple link in the News Feed it will likely deserve its own post.
D Mac: Nice… I didn’t think you would have missed that tasty morsel:-)
I just wonder if this is part of “their” plan or a “whoops” moment. It seems like its kind of disappeared already… Not seeing a lot or anything about it now. You?
If it’s disappeared it must have been a whoops moment if it gets advertised on CNN and Fox it must be part of the plan… Or maybe it’s not that black and white….