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matt (@speedspirit42) FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 1:42 AM JC in regards to your comment to Norman you mention the pawns and sheep of the tribes all under control by the elite leaders who are in control by means of restraint.
This system they push forward depends on more restraints on liberties of the people, does it not?
The more constraints they impose the more difficult it becomes to maintain their control without more and more. In your understanding how do you believe they can avoid this?
hugovictor54 FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 2:52 AM Dear J.C.: As a boy some fifty years ago, I grew up in the warmth and flat of SouthWest Florida. I am now thankful to my father for affording me the opportunity to have experienced that life. Florida in those days was like a large island.
No air conditioning, smoked mulllet sold along the road. I swam day after day in the warm gulf waters. Heat and sun was my constant companion. I was thin as a rail and could run many miles before tiring.
My cousin, who later died of cancer visited and we ran together in the heat and light. So let me say, your vision of the world as profound as it might be is conditioned by the reality of the world around you.
I think of my father and he is now gone. I think of the friends and they are gone. I think of the living but I can not forget the dead. With a little push I will glad to join them. I do not think that you have figured this into you equation. Jack
JC Collins FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 2:58 AM Jack, your comment requires further explaining please.
Benny Benfari FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 4:28 AM So how does an individual prepare for all these changes that are occurring?
hugovictor54 FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 3:31 AM Dear J.C.: I love the time and place of my existence. I don ‘t want connectivity and globalism and multilateralism. My perfection of self can result from the smallest incident. The world doesn’t have to change.
To me it is all useless and unnecessary and doesn’t further anything. J.C. you have shared with us immeasurable wealth and for that I am forever grateful. Yet, I must say that I deplore it all. Your quiet winter is incomparable. There is nothing more. Jack
Alaskaroots FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 7:21 AM I love the way Jack can see the perfection in the moment the way it is… As for me, I want change. And now. I see it happening everywhere. I love his acknowledgement of those before us. I second that.
I also know that I am willing to do what it takes to help create a better world for the generation that comes after us.
This debt based system is broken. Why does there need to be debt restructuring? It needs to be forgiven. The loans were fraudulent. Therefore void.
Im not amongst the global analysts which comment on your articles, the high profile contract negotiators, whose insight carries weight and insanely interesting links. I am a mother. I am alive on this planet. This planet is alive as well, and she is on the people’s side, not those who seek to destroy.
Although the powers that used to be are unsure how they will handle this transition exactly, love will eventually find its way into their hearts.
It will make it easier on everyone if they (tptutb!) would stop asking how to fix a fucking broken system and instead ask how to assist in transitioning to something that makes sense for the 99%.
Nevenmeic FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 9:14 AM Hi Benny, this is sober question:
“So how does an individual prepare for all these changes that are occurring?”
Quote from article:
“From selling breakfast cereal — to government cover-ups — to how we raise our kids — to what is written in our history books, we are bombarded with covert and subliminal messaging aimed at manipulating our thoughts and responses, patterns and behaviors.
It is invading. It is persistent. It keeps on coming. It is no great wonder that anything resembling truth and reality is so hard to recognize.”
Dripfood FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 10:18 AM Crystal clear. That’s how it will be played.
It’s very unfortunate that we apparently need this externally projected blatant lack of sovereignty to remind us of our internal lack of sovereignty. :-(
I suppose this is what happens when we collectively trade our internal wealth for empty shells. Such screw-ups will cost us dearly, including most freedoms. Hopefully it will cause us to realize the full extent and impact of the (not so empty) phrase “selling your soul to the devil”.
I guess we’ll soon find out how bad of a deal that really was, is and always will be.
Daneackerman FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 1:33 PM Dripfood I have similar thoughts. I have been trying to marry the financial system to human existence to see if there was a similar pattern. So far I have come up with this. JC’s comment to Norman unlocked it for me (I think):) Thanks JC.
“The purpose of the sovereign debt load which exists today is not meant to be reduced but to ensure the transfer of sovereignty to an international entity which will restructure and manage the debt for each country.
This debt will never be completely eliminated as that would allow for sovereignty to be transferred back to the originating source.”
So on a personal level the pattern would be the same. We get into debt and with each loan we transfer a piece of our sovereignty to the note holder of the debt.
So as our personal debt grows our personal sovereignty decreases. Therefore, perhaps being debt free would transfer that sovereignty back to the individual.
And of course sense central banking is taking over private banking we could form the logic for that sovereignty moving to the top or returning to the originating source or to whence it came….money is created from the central bank as debt.
The money falls to man as a loan in order for man to satisfy his wants and desires. Then returns to the source when the loan is repaid. Unfortunately interest looks like a corruption of the process.
So would it be safe to say that this system could be broken if each one of us individually gets our minds right and move from being debt based people to a more balanced people? Controlling our wants and desires that push us into loans and thus the endless cycle?
Dripfood FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 4:17 PM Dane, I follow your logic and agree, except that the idea of ‘breaking’ the system is kind of a misguidance.
‘The system’ IS ‘the mind’ externalized. And the the mind can’t break itself. The mind can be liberated though…. very fast by complete disillusionment or very slowly by exerting self discipline.
So in fact, the system needs to be freed from our subconscious internal deficiencies, of which our insistant wants and desires are a consequence.
Usually the mind is tasked with satisfying our wants and desires (and avoiding disconforts and pain) . Maybe we can repurpose our minds to other responsabilities, like recognizing our internal areas of lack and learning not to avoid the resulting discomfortable feelings. That will surely dissolve ‘the system of lack’.
Daneackerman FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 8:05 PM Thats cool “‘The system’ IS ‘the mind’ externalized.” So if we can correct our minds then the system would eventually follow suit right?
Now how to fix the human mind? Is it even broken? Perhaps the mind is okay and what regulates the mind coming into the externalized world is…..not broken but toyed with so it doesn’t regulate our externalizations properly? A corruption of our thoughts being externalized?
As for changing the mind I think its actually both. Quick and slow. When I go inside my mind and find a deficiency and correct the thinking causing the deficiency thats an instant change when the decision is made.
However, it takes me plenty of continued thought to keep aware of the causes of the deficiency until the corrected thought becomes second nature. But since our minds are so toyed with its difficult to know what is what sometimes. To think outside of any conditioning takes a lot of energy for me still.
I am still in the process of developing my belief system so thank you for sharing yours. I will think on it a bit and see what develops.
Perhaps the system could not be needed would have been better wording my friend.
Dripfood FEBRUARY 12, 2015 AT 12:18 AM Dane, the deficiencies that I am talking about originate on a deeper level than the mind. They are hard programmed into the nervous system.
The reason we cannot alter our mind is because that which calls itself ‘I’ or IS the mind. And mind cannot change itself. Mind always wants to change something outside of itself. The only helpful thing a corrupted mind can do is to stop.
The corruption of the mind is in its purpose or MO. For most, the purpose is ‘seeking pleasure and avoiding pain’. That is a corrupt purpose and extremely easy to manipulate as we can see around us in advertising and any CSI program.
This corrupt purpose is extremely well defended. Any liberating suggestion will be subtly twisted to align with the corrupt purpose. Even the idea of iberation of mind is seen by mind as a means to gain pleasure or avood pain. It constantly creates vicious circles to enforce itself.
In my experience liberation of the corrupt purpose can only come through regularly falling silent and learning to bear the 5 painful feelings of lack. This will slowly heal the micro-traumas within the body and expand one’s sense of self well outside of the perimeters of the physical body.
If more of us would accomplish this, the systems we could form would be sensitive, self correcting, abundant and have an inclusive character.
JC Collins FEBRUARY 12, 2015 AT 12:39 AM The mind exists outside of matter, as such, the ego sense of self, the “I” you reference, is a fabrication of the brain which is constructed on experience.
Think of memories as building blocks which build the identity which we all associate with.
The mind exists outside of this and in fact has created the opportunity for consciousness to experience itself through matter. But the brain identity has taken control of the experience and thinks itself to be real and the mind unreal.
It’s something like man creating AI and eventually that AI becomes aware and thinks it’s real and the thing which created it is unreal.
This is why such movies as AI – Artificial Intelligence, are so symbolic and meaningful to the human mind on a subconscious level. In the story we recognize our own quest to return to the source. To become real.
Jay over at Jay’s Analysis has recently done a great breakdown of that particular movie. I suggest you all read it and reflect on self as you do so.
daneackerman FEBRUARY 12, 2015 AT 1:27 AM Wow that is deep dripfood. I have read some of your stuff over on your site. It’s just a different path than I am on right now. Don’t get me wrong it’s very intriguing and I may revisit it in the future but im staying focused for now. Hope I didn’t hurt your feelings pal.
Jeremy Moore FEBRUARY 12, 2015 AT 2:20 AM Dane, DF, and anyone else, One of the keys for myself to “breaking the mind” (although, I think its more accurate to say putting the mind in its place), was and continues to be by consciously refusing to allow the scripted distractions of the current matrix we call civilized living, to dictate my own choices.
I’m not saying one needs to run to the hills and be a recluse (although it would be a great start), or that one can exist totally free of society (I know I can’t thanks to the requirement of money).
The point I’m getting at is we have to decide to silence the noise, stop looking at all the distractions, and start first by reconnecting with our natural environment.
There’s precious little information suggesting that Earthly existence can be a lot closer to bliss, right now, than most ever thought possible. It’s not a utopian dream, but a reality we could all realize if only we could stop complicating so much of our lives with what equates to separation from the whole
I think any of us here who are truly honest will acknowledge, we all have a long ways to go before we can say “I control myself and my emotions”. I believe learning how to do so, together, is a key to how we all will individually initiate change that will manifest the need for the role of “the money changers” to cease.
They exist because collectively, we need them to, but that can (and will) change.
More and more, I see a theme in these comments being centered around the idea that we aren’t interested in consolidation of the current system.
I know the more calculated and logical folks don’t see how humanity could possibly NOT get fooled again, but as we each decide to take the required stand (which is not violent), we each realize we must make individual changes, and these seemingly tiny changes begin to reshape the universal panfractalic we call material existence. All is as it should be, and I am learning how to be grateful for it, all of it.
As usual, I took the long way to where I was trying to go with this comment. There is a short book (less than 100 pages) that I think you both (especially dripfood) would get a lot from reading.
It’s a little difficult at first due to the authors’ use of verbage, but as you’ll see, it only adds more truth to the subject matter. It provided me the missing pieces to that puzzle of “how I can be an agent of change” The book is called “Fractalic Awakening” by LariAnn Gardner. Check it out, well worth the time/money.
matt (@speedspirit42) FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 1:33 PM All though here we tend to focus on all things news related which is also a very tainted vision of truth there is another world view in existence.
If I can’t get an answer about Government contraints on the freedom of the people which will expose them for being the bastards they are who then will be be hunted down and dealt with then I will go this route. The technocratic world now makes life much more abundant then it’s ever been.
Food is easily accessible to most of the world at a low cost. The farmers are doing a great job and the shippers but greedy wall street types are getting more then their share.
Technology like the cloud makes using super computers accessible to all for the cost of electricity.
And that provides limitless opportunities to solve the problems of real life improvements with out the need for government to save us. So try as Government may to tax us till they kill the economy, make the people with pensions penniless, rob our freedoms in the name of protection from a boogieman named ISIS and human expansive nature will prevail no matter what.
The World Empire belongs to the people not wall street and the bankers. Without the people creatively making progress happen they do not have shit but a bunch of pretty things.
Soon they would have to give up those things for real things of wealth to people with real skills.
So as much as its important to understand the ugly truth of government and its coming actions it is not the world we wish to see develop for our children.
Watching the play by play is not helping with the solutions, it is distracting us from spending time on creating our own futures, not theirs.
Second Law of Thermodynamics states they will never succeed. The unknown factor of Love and creativity trumps all other plans.
Daneackerman FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 3:20 PM Matt I see your view. But with your logic the individual man has failed to restrain himself. It’s like okay I was ignorant enough to fall for your scam. ‘
Now that it’s been figured out by someone now give me free money so I don’t have to work for anything. I have a deeper understanding of what is meant about stop looking for saviors and scapegoats now. Thank you for taking my mind there to figure that out.
matt (@speedspirit42) FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 6:09 PM Dane, Where did you get the notion of free money? That’s not where I see our promise of a better future. Wall street gets profits off the sweat of others for doing nothing. Sorry if I did not make that clear.
My point was not to accept slavery but forge ahead to create a better world that is fair. Modifications to the existing system will only fail because of the reasons JC has so clearly expounded on.
The masses were taken advantage of and once they realize it they will be more pissed than a disturbed hornets nest. The internet is the savior, information available world wide for anyone who cares to learn, to invent, to solve and to share.
Daneackerman FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 10:54 PM Matt I believe I really do see where you are coming from. So then our better future comes from us also doing nothing…in exchange for other peoples money in return? Or you just want to get all that anger out on whom?
Do you really think everyone on Wall Street is guilty? Thats an awful lot of people. Look I lost my home to Bank of America I fought them tooth and nail to finally prove my point show how they were wrong.
Done deal. Now I’m moving on. I’ve been effected so much more than you could know because I won’t share it publicly but I still find goodness in my heart.
I won’t hate anyone just because another person tells me I should. I just think its the wrong frame of mind and doesn’t lend itself to any good.
I’m just trying to get you to think outside the anger or frustration because once you see it behind you….life becomes amazing.
I work on being the change I want to see in the world every day. But that change happens inside me. All of us little people do make up the whole.
Therefore if all the little people can’t be tricked, lured, mislead then there game is up because we make the whole. We make the systems to restrain us because we can’t restrain ourselves.
What I don’t want to see is this seemingly last chance (centralization) for us to get our stuff together and then we yet again blow it. I believe JC when he says any system will corrupt.
I believe its because WE are the corruption. If we can stop corrupting then the systems will fade away. JC posted a very valid point from so many great thinkers before about us changing ourselves to see the change in the world.
There have been golden ages before and they will come again and the cycle will continue forever if we cannot collectively change ourselves.
Mobilerickster FEBRUARY 11, 2015 AT 10:07 PM stop feeding the beast.
irrelevant111 FEBRUARY 12, 2015 AT 2:14 AM Interesting look at the past n regimes that bring truth to light once fallen… Food for thought… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV1GzPMqny8
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