MJW485: Isn't that what happened with the Kuwaiti RV. Same frustrations as we are seeing and then Bam, it happened. Maybe that makes sense here too.
BaldingEagle : This Date in U.S. History: January 1, 1863 (one hundred and fifty years ago), President Abraham Lincoln signed The Emancipation Proclamation.
OffGrid: BaldngEagle - Great point of history. ... maybe we ALL are freed today in 2014!!!
[wanda270] WE ALL OWN DINAR!!!!!!!! And, it still has value, the revaluation is still in play, it is pending and, it is inevitable that the RV will occur. Until events dictate or there is an announcement supported by evidence that the RV is not going to happen, our investments are still sound even if not timely. I feel very good about our position knowing our future has more possibility and potential with it...than without it. I view the process that we are privileged to witness and be part of, as a thrilling novel writing history...not reporting it. And, at the end....we get paid. Hang in there.
Dhar: Does anyone know if all those "contracts" have to be renegotiated now that we have gone past the first of January?
Read More Link on Right
Mimi_Magenta :I have a friend with connections, said at first Jan 6, then said they are trying to do it earlier. A bit of info for us.
BrocollySaurus : @Mimi that 6th is sounding align with the ISX Down time they are supposed to com back on the 7th
Mimi_Magenta :My friend's info is from European central bankers… A friend has connections with European central bankers. My friend said it was going Jan 6, but that they are trying to do it earlier.
dajen : Was chatting last night to a congressman in a roundabout way. he said "what are you talking about" Me "I'm holding some currency" Him "O.K. Hold tight" Mr "so things are looking up?" Him "YES"
Ohmaui - remember DC Guy saying that there are sever financial penalties if this does NOT go by the end of today. that is the pressure that is on our side. ;)
[daz] tony and dc talked about a penalty phase that started at midnight
[daz] IN THREE WORDS.......... "PLAY OR PAY"
[daz] maybe all these plays, rates, plans, nda's, banks and groups and dissemination of 800#'s are game pieces....cards if you will...in a timed game of "go fish"..everybody is still "fishin" for the best hand..and the timer is running out. When the bell goes off...they're stuck with the hand they have...even if some of the face cards are still in the deck?
[cozmo] I am assuming that when Daz talks about "Play or Pay" that is pertaining to the USA .. correct?
[daz] cozmo hat was my impression.....the price of poker increases for iraq but i sense the US is somehow obligated for that increase...just thinkin outloud
[cozmo] daz -- It makes sense to me because from what we have heard .. Iraq has met all the requirements and are ready to rock .. but it is the US holding it up .. so in turn if we hold it up any longer .. the US would be penalized .. not Iraq
wanda270] Dc - the deposits are in revalued currency and if there are delays, its monumentally expensive for iraq, and they won't put up with it, the price of poker continues to rise dramatically, to justify it, its so expensive to mess around with it
[wanda270] 2:09 PM wantingfreedom: wanda270 dc talks about the tremendous cost financially, politically, etc., Wed./Thurs. in terms of every hour it's delayed. We are in a VERY good position!
[wanda270] From MWKD …. No Way ANY of you heard this last year.... Who heard CL stepping in?? Who heard of certain people being arrested? Who else heard of January 2 and tariff laws? Who heard of bonds being sold? Maybe it's just me, but I don't remember any of this... I must have had too many other projects going on
[econeal7] Wanda270 I'm surprised Iraq & the world has put up with our games this long. !
[Plowboy] .Walkingtall1943 are you kinda sorta halfway expecting something to happen mid Jan?
[.Walkingtall1943] Plowboy i do believe that we should have had it happen already except some factors that have caused problems with it i think that it could be at any moment but it is being controled by the IMF in the end IMO
[Plowboy] .Walkingtall1943 there seems to be an overwhelming majority of serious informations seekers that it should be soon. I'll remain hopeful
[.BJ] Plowboy okay that really sounds good!!!
[citizensoldier] silence |ˈsīləns| noun complete absence of sound : sirens pierce the silence of the night | an eerie silence descended over the house. • the fact or state of abstaining from speech : Karen had withdrawn into sullen silence | she was reduced to silence for a moment. • the avoidance of mentioning or discussing something : politicians keep their silence on the big questions. • the state of standing still and not speaking as a sign of respect for someone deceased or in an opportunity for prayer : a moment of silence presided over by a local minister.
[.Walkingtall1943] here is some info on Iraq's paris club agreement and other debt at this link http://www.cbi.iq/index.php?pid=GovernmentSecurities
[.Walkingtall1943] ther is said to be over 92.3 billion external debt in 2010
[.Walkingtall1943] there is estimates of over a 100 trillion in debt over all and they are saying they can pay
[Plowboy] .Walkingtall1943 they can Pay? Yeah right.
[.Walkingtall1943] yes IMO and then more
[Plowboy] .Walkingtall1943 .Walkingtall1943 maybe with an rv
[Plowboy] of close to 4 dollars
[.Walkingtall1943] or gold and dimonds or oil or gas.
[.Walkingtall1943] over 3 years ago a IMF report said that Iraq could support a rv of 25 with gold vauled at 36 dollars a ounce do the math.
[Plowboy] .Walkingtall1943 do YOU anticipate a double digit rate?
[.Walkingtall1943] most likely IMO maybe in the 10 to 14 range but who knows
[Plowboy] .Walkingtall1943 well goooooooooolly!!!! I would love for you to be right
[.Walkingtall1943] me to