Tlar's Election Predictions
Sailrat: That is a well written update. I have not heard much about Hakim until these last few weeks. I hope he gets the job done.
BlueyesinLevis: I'm surprised. Hakim and Sadr have been very outspoken about their agenda of getting out from under Maliki. It is Hakim's Bloc.. the Citizen's Bloc that made huge gains in the Mid term elections last year.
They way he has banded tha opposition together is masterful. Excluding Allawi is also a good move.. Allawi and Maliki are peas from the same pod.
-If those mid term elections are any indication.. Maliki has not one prayer.
Countrygal: GOOD REMARKS FROM TLAR..I JUST HAVE A GUESS OF MY OWN AND I SEE IF HAKIM WINS THE MOST SEATS THEN I DONT SEE CHALABI BEING THE CANDIDATE PICKED.
HE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS GIVING THE U.S. FALSE INFORMATION BEFORE OUR INVASION AND ALSO CRASHED A BANK IN AMMAN JORDAN..
GRANTED KING ABDULLAH PARDONED HIM HE IS ON THE FENCE WITH MANY ITEMS..HE IS GOOD OPPOSITION FOR MALIKI BUT NOT FOR A PM..
I SEE IT GOING IF HAKIM DOESNT TAKE THE PM POSITION , WHICH I DONT THINK HE WILL BEING HE IS MORE CLERIC THAN POLITICIAN..
I THEN SEE A GREAT CHANCE FOR ABDUL-MAHDI WHICH WAS THE PREVIOUS VICE PRESIDENT AND LEFT THE POSITION BECAUSE HE COULDNT GET ALONG WITH MALIKI.
.HE IS AN ECONOMIST AND A VERY WELL LIKED PERSON..ALLAWI'S BLOC CARRIES ALOT OF WEIGHT AGAIN BECAUSE HE IS RUNNING A NON SECULAR BLOC ONCE AGAIN..
THESE GUYS HAVE DONE A MAGNIFICENT JOB OF GETTING THEIR POLITICAL BLOCS TOGETHER AND IN SOME CASES SPREADING THEM OUT INTO SMALLER ONES SO THEIR CHANCES ARE EVEN HIGHER THAN BEFORE..
IT IS TRULY GETTING EXCITED AND TO SEE TALABANI CAST HIS BALLOT FROM HIS WHEEL CHAIR WAS FABULOUS..
IMO I BELIEVE HE WILL BE IN IRAQ TO CONVENE THE NEW SESSION OF PARLIAMENT AND TO HAND THE REIGNS OVER TO THE NEXT PRESIDENT
BLUEYESINlEVIS: Tlar replied to CG:
CG - this was in an article put out only days ago. ( Link wont post here sorry)
Mahdi is a good choice but my money is on Chalabi. He has a checkered background yes, but almost everybody in politics has a checkered background in Iraq.
If Hakim happens to pick Mahdi I'd be OK with that but I don't think Mahdi is quite the politician nor does he have the following that Chalabi has.
Chalabi earned great press when he challenged Maliki to a debate and Maliki chickened out.
Chalabi has been in country the entire time and was never neutered by Maliki like Mahdi was. Mahdi, charged by Maliki on terrorism charges ran. Later he apologized to Maliki for having called him a dictator (his only real crime while Maliki was in Washington) and Maliki let him off the hook and come back.
For quite a while he was a Maliki yes man. I understand why, but he was a cop out. It was not until he smelled Maliki's blood that he again sided with the opposition.
All signs of a weak leader showing strength only when he feels safe.
My money is still on Chalabi. It's kind of fun discussing this as we will - all will all know the outcome very shortly, which for Iraq is amazing considering it has taken sometimes years to be vindicated in ones thoughts on any subject. CG thanks for countering my pick it makes for great dialog and great fun. ~ tlar
BlueyesinLevis: Chalabi was in his quest to increase his chances of winning the post of prime minister, visited Iran with the President of the Supreme Council of the Islamic Ammar al-Hakim, and former Vice-President, Adel Abdul-Mahdi, where Tbagesoa with Iranian officials nomination of Mr. Chalabi as prime minister, in an effort to gain the support of the Iranian side in the issue his candidacy, as a personal "compromise", as they think, can preserve Iranian interests in Iraq.
According to the source, returned delegation returned empty-handed after failing to obtain assurances that the Iranian side about the nomination of Mr. Chalabi to head the government.
The source also said that Chalabi and the delegation, sought to re-cut the channels between Iran and the Sadrists, in an attempt by Chalabi apparently to convince Iran's ability to solve intractable problems in relationships is the admissibility of being with a lot of parties, as fancy.
BlueyesinLevis: The delegation headed by al-Hakim, visited upon his return from Iran, the Cleric Muqtada al -Sadr, who has expressed welcome to the idea of Chalabi's candidacy for Prime Minister.
(Those last two posts were the meat of what Tlar was taling about seeing in the last two days.
Sorry it would not post.. I had to type it out)
Chalabi is talking about what policies after Maliki: We will stop the war in Anbar and open ourselves up to Saudi Arabia and restrict the authority of a constitutional amendment ruling
Mon Apr 28 2014 23:09 | (Voice of Iraq)
Long-Presse / Baghdad
The leader of the Iraqi National Congress, Ahmed Chalabi, on Monday, to amend the constitution to limit the "predominance" executive power and re-legislative functions and oversight of the parliament, and to reconsider relations Iraq with neighboring countries, especially Saudi Arabia to overcome the "failure" which dominated Currently, the Investment Iraq enjoyed "support extremes in the region, "namely Iran and America, and while counting to file Anbar" exploited for electoral purposes ", and that the government's performance" was characterized by mismanagement and design on corruption "since 2006, confirmed that the electoral program of mass citizen focuses on the fight against corruption and support the development programs and the transfer of wealth to the people.
Constitution should be amended to reduce the predominance of the executive branch
He said Chalabi, who is running the parliamentary candidate for the list of the citizen, of the Islamic Supreme Council, headed by Ammar al-Hakim, in a meeting singled out by the (long-Presse), that it was necessary "to amend the constitution, which gave the executive branch Bossier sweeping and make them make use of the elimination to disrupt the work of Parliament,"
He pointed out that "the Constitution contains the points must be adjusted through compatibility, the first of the powers of the House of Representatives, Kalrkabh and legislation, having hired the executive branch to the judiciary to disable it, as it should reduce the overwhelming domination of the executive branch on everything."
It is necessary to reconsider the relationship with neighboring countries
And saw the leader of the Iraqi National Congress, that "Iraq should reconsider its relations with neighboring countries and seek to improve them out of the failure to present in this area," noting that "Iraq is the only country that enjoys the support of extremes in the region, namely Iran and America."
He called Chalabi, to "analyze our interests with Saudi Arabia, especially the latter currently threatened by terrorism and the decision of which is considered the organization of the Islamic State in Iraq and the Levant (Daash) a terrorist organization, and all the Saudi fight out of the country governs the prison,"
pointing out that "with the Saudi government problem There is popular support for the fight against the Shiites which embarrass them, because they do not want to get involved in this area, at the same time fighting terrorism, which are all positive things, I do not know why the Iraqi government did not welcome them. "
The leader of the Iraqi National Congress, that "the Arab Gulf countries, especially Kuwait were not comfortable with the presence of Saddam in power, which is against terrorism,
however, we find that the statements and accusations firearms launches by all levels of the Iraqi government against it, which requires re-examination of the seriousness of this,"
adding that This "does not constitute a change in my speech, as some believe, because I always invite civil peace."
And on the influence of Iran, Chalabi saw that "Iran will not impose its will on the person next prime minister of Iraq, the most important things to concern."
File Anbar exploited for electoral purposes
The Chalabi, that "the first thing that should work on it after the legislative elections, and if I was selected as prime minister, is to stop the war and the fight against terrorism," returned to "The big difference between the two because we fully support the strengthening of the army and police, but can not consider Fallujah all terrorism ".
He considered the leader of the Iraqi National Congress, that of "unwise military intervention in Anbar this time," and added that "many people are asking why the military did not issue a statement on the case, and one so far."
Chalabi and went on, "The Anbar file used for the purposes of an election, and the problem now is that those who criticize the performance of the government accuses of supporting terrorism."
Since the Maliki government first there was poor management and corrupt insistence on
And on the rampant corruption in the joints of the state, and how to reduce it, said the leader of the Iraqi National Congress, said that "long presided during which the Economic Commission of the Cabinet, during the government of Ibrahim al-Jaafari, it was not like this corruption exists in the ministries," pointing out that "corruption is endemic in state departments in the era of the American civil governor of Iraq. "
He said Chalabi, "The interim government is also witnessed cases of corruption known, was the most important of which is what happened at the Ministry of Defense in September of 2004, where the ministry signed with Al Ain ongoing Iraqi group contracts with the capital of three million dinars,
the equivalent of two thousand dollars , "explaining that" the total amount of the contracts signed by the Ministry of Defence with those of the company amounted to 126 million dollars paid her 35 instrument Gert all for one person, named Naúr Mohammed Ahmed al-Jumaili, who signed a deal in turn with Bomar Polish to buy weapons. "
According to the leader of the Iraqi National Congress, that those "things continued until March of 2005, as I wrote evacuated memorandum to the Prime Minister recommended during which the need to form a committee decades the Council of Ministers for the work of processors,
and has already determined that any contract value exceeding three million dollars back to the Committee for consideration, a of responsibility for its implementation in the case and agreed to it. "
He said Chalabi, that "the Commission which was formed under my leadership and the membership of the ministers of finance, trade and central bank governor and head of the Audit Court, met 75 times in one year, and approved through the decades and refused again,
without the occurrence of corruption cases and one, with those contracts tens of billions of dollars "Mstrsla" after the formation of the government in 2006, Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki, overwhelmed by the Contracts Committee, due to mismanagement and corruption on the design. "
Program emphasizes the citizen to fight corruption and to support development programs
In the axis of his speech, said the candidate for the mass of citizens, "The program of mass stresses the need to establish mechanisms to prevent the continuation of corruption and to hold accountable the corrupt,"
noting that it "confirms the support of development programs to raise the level of the Iraqi people, and provide job opportunities for the citizens and not to fight the private sector, and implementation of an ambitious project for housing, as well as the need to abolish the Green Zone. "
According to Chalabi, "The project block citizen, also includes the transfer of wealth to the people, especially through monetary issues and housing," returned that "the government should bear the responsibility of providing the land and the granting of loans to enable the citizens of construction and the payment of installments over thirty years."
The phenomenon of corruption, "the biggest challenge" facing Iraq, as well as security, since the year 2003, especially the levels reached a specialized international organizations has led to the situation in Iraq is among the countries "most corrupt" in the world.
The TI announced, in (the third of December 2013 the past), that five Arab countries occupied the first rank among the most corrupt countries in the world, and stressed that Somalia, Sudan and Libya, followed by Iraq, Syria, is that occupied the first rank according to the corruption index of the Organization for the year 2013, noting that the list included 177 countries. LINK
Countrygal: SEEMS STRANGE TO ME THAT CHALABI WOULD GO TO IRAN AND THEN MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE GREAT RELATIONS WITH THE SAUDI"S..
I NEED MORE THAN A SOURCE TO SAY THEY WENT TO IRAN...
HAKIM HAS BEEN CAMPAIGNING IN EVERY PROVINCE FOR OVER A MONTH AND NOT ONE TIME DID I SEE AN ARTICLE THAT INDICATED THAT THEY WENT TO IRAN..
CHALABI IS ALLAWI'S COUSIN AND I DONT SEE HIM BEING A PAL TO IRAN OR EVEN ASKING THEM FOR ANYTHING...
MAHDI WAS NOT THE ONE WHO CALLED MALIKI A DICTATOR BACK WHEN MALIKI WENT TO THE U.S. IN 2011..
THAT WAS MUTLAQ THE DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER THAN EVEN MADE CNN NEWS..MAHDI WANTED OUT FOR A LONG TIME AND TALABANI FINALLY EXCEPTED HIS RESIGNATION IN JULY OF 2011 WELL BEFORE MALIKI MADE HIS TRIP TO THE U.S.
HERE IS A GOOD ARTICLE FOR TIME LINE SAKE..
BAGHDAD (AP) — One of Iraq's three vice presidents resigned Monday in an apparent attempt to distance himself from what is seen as an increasingly dysfunctional government.
By Hadi Mizban, AP
Adel Abdul-Mahdi at the announcement of the Iraqi National Alliance's formation.
Shiite Vice President Adel Abdul-Mahdi, a member of the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council, could not be reached for comment. No formal reason was given for his resignation, after four years in office.
Abdul-Mahdi had threatened for months to leave his post. President Jalal Talabani, a Kurd, finally accepted his resignation Monday.
"We deeply regret having to accept the resignation of our friend and brother," Talabani said in the statement, adding that he attempted for "many weeks" to persuade Abdul-Mahdi to stay.
"He was with us during the struggle against the dictatorship and we worked together to achieve a free, democratic and federal Iraq," Talabani said.
Talabani spokesman Naseer al-Ani said Abdul-Mahdi was encouraged by the Supreme Islamic Iraqi Council party leaders to step down and save the cash-strapped government the cost of his annual salary of $108,000. But advisers to Abdul-Mahdi privately have said the vice president feared he would be blamed for being part of a failed government should its leaders be ousted by frustrated Iraqis.
Bickering among Iraq's political leaders has kept the government, seated in December, from appointing new defense, interior and national security ministers. Critics say the delay Iraq's stability.
Underscoring the threat, three rockets hit Baghdad's Green Zone on Monday, targeting the heavily guarded fortress where Iraq's government and foreign embassies are located. Police said the rockets were fired from a Shiite-dominated neighborhood in eastern Baghdad. No casualties were reported.
The government is also deadlocked on whether it should ask U.S. troops to remain in Iraq beyond a year-end departure deadline, and was urged Monday by visiting U.S. Defense Secretary Leon Panetta to make a quick decision.
The Iraqi constitution that was approved in 2005 created two vice president posts, which were held by Abdul-Mahdi and Sunni Tariq al-Hashemi. But this spring, parliament approved creating a third seat, which was given to Khudayer al-Khuzaie, a Shiite from the Dawa party headed by Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki.
Abdul-Mahdi and al-Maliki have had a tense relationship for years, and Abdul-Mahdi has made little secret of his ambitions to be prime minister.
Countrygal Continues: LET ME ADD THAT MAHDI HAS WRITTEN MANY ARTICLES ON THE ECONOMY ON IRAQ AND THE CITIZENS AND BANKING AND ALSO THE CONSTITUTION..
HE IS A WELL ROUNDED FIGURE AND DOESNT FLY BY THE SEAT OF HIS PANTS PER SAY LIKE CHALABI..
CHALABI HAS DONE GOOD THINGS ALSO..HE IS THE ONE THAT WENT TO SEE BARZANI AND LET IT SLIP ABOUT THE SYKES PICOT AGREEMENT THAT POSE AND I DID RESEARCH ON AND MADE A GREAT POST...
CHALABI HAS BEEN A SAUDI SUPPORTER AND VERY VOCAL ABOUT IT..BUT YOU CANT TURN YOUR BACK ON IRAN AND TURKEY BECAUSE THEY ARE MAJOR POWERS IN THE REGION.
.BUT YOU ALSO DONT SAY NEGATIVE THINGS AGAINST THE U.S. BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WE HOLD THE KEY TO MANY THINGS IN IRAQ, ALONG WITH THEIR BANKING LAWS AND OTHER CPA ORDERS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN REPEALED YET..
SO TO ME THAT SHOWS HOW FLIP FLOPPY HE IS....SO THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY INTERESTING AND EXCITING AT THE SAME TIME..THANKS FOR THE DIALOGUE...;)
BlueyesinLevis: On this article. Tlar wrote: -Well Chalabi has thrown his weight into the elections big time. This speech is his half of what should have been the debate. Maliki does not have time to respond.
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