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[FLPatriot59] TNT CALL STARTING NOW..... T= TONY | C = CALLER
TONY - This will be a short call and hopefully will follow with another call later today. First, some negative news. I'm getting all this good info and we're hearing what has been the sticking point and how it was resolved, including what has happened up to today. Our puzzle piece should only be missing one piece. I've been honest with you in all the info I've shared as I believed it to be, and it made sense. I'm not going to undo anything.
T - I was on the phone all day yesterday through 11PM last night and again starting again at 6AM. I got a lot of PMs and calls this morning. What I don't like is that yesterday I was tired and people complain that I didn't do a call yesterday. Those people saying this were trying to take over the board, and that kind of got to me. The other thing that bothered me is that the group scenario has changed.
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People in our room were receiving emails from the group and they're concerend our system was hacked. I don't think our system was hacked and we did not give your email addresses to them. If you didn't either, then it show the lengths they'll go to.
T - If you didn't give out your email address, and your friends didn't, then call the Attorney General and complain. This is just one more thing that these people will do. I was on a call with another site owner yesterday and told me they absolutely did call them and told him that he would be black listed if he vouched for Tony's info and put it on his board. Then they told him he had a red dot on his back. He was frustrated. And then they started to call his friends. That was the thing that crossed the line.
T - Who does this? Who would go through this and threaten people and family members if they were not getting something out of it. You don't call somebody else and threaten them and their family if they don't sign up with their group. I wanted to get all that negative stuff out of the way.
T - Here's the info you guys want: There are 3 things I'm absolutely not going to tell you pertaining to the RV. Nothing good would come out of those things if I told you. But everything will make sense without you know those things. It's not a threat to national security or anything but it could affect how the world looks at us.
T - Wednesday there were meeting in DC. The question today is who was holding this up and what was that one missing ingredient? Out of the countries involved, only 1 doesn't manufacture oil enough to sustain them - China. The rate will def go higher than $25.87 because for a long time it had to get higher. There have been verbal battles to get us where we are now because the higher rates were needed to stimulate the economy. We heard the POTUS was holding up things for his political gain, selfish reasons. All those things went by and it's still held up. What we found out is that he was, in fact, holding it up.
T - Many think that's because of him building his legacy. If that's true, he only left himself a short period of time. So, while some could look at it like that, the greater reason is that, for us and for our country, to achieve the rates and raising the ceiling levels. It's been a hard battle because he was trying to get to $30, based on what I've been given today. But it is a big difference from 3.44 and $25.87 - that wasn't easy to accomplish. It's now 9X higher, which was not an easy thing to accomplish to pay off our debt and future programs. It'll also give enough money to rebuild America. Now, the numbers are there and up until 2 days ago it wasn't usable currency. All that changed and they can now bargain.
T - China and Iraq had a deal behind our backs and Iraq was shipping oil to China, millions of barrels each day. To us oil was $6 but was supposed to come through US for $18 barrel. That gap had to be closed. It was not easy, exposing it and redoing that deal. Iraq gets 70% oil out of Basra and Kukirk. it's always been about money. $10T and $300T has changed hands. China didn't want money - they want oil.
T - *China gets 70% oil out of Basra and Kukirk.
T - China is not authorized to have any dinar. The group deal you're hearing about with China is real, but their group rate has now been lowered. It was part of the agreement is that China would do this group. It was only way they could get additional dinar. Info about how groups operating is in DC/UST and even some of Chinese peeps have heard how it's been operating. It's mind blowing because I've gotten phone calls directly from UST/DC and from Chinese family. The 6 degrees of separation has now gone down to 1-2 degrees and that's mind-boggling to me.
T - The other banks weren't going to be able to have the same rates as WF, but now the playing field has been leveled. The info I got this morning is that WF prefers you not to be part of groups but rather they want individuals to come in not in groups. They're going to cash out one note for you other than your appointment. We're still trying to find out what denom that is and limit to it.
T - You should know the min rate is $25.87. 30 Days is still in place. The only thing different is that they still want you to cash out within 30 days but any stragglers could be greatly reduced in rate to 3.68.
T - The agreement was made Thursday night and they tried to push it thru. Between 11PM/Midnight and Friday morning there was a deal made on top of the deal (a snooker deal) in between that time. I know it's convoluted. So another deal was put in place and with that deal and other things, i.e., egos, involved that are not the top position egos. A couple of months ago it was delegated to lower-level people with a lot of power and who have egos just as big. Nobody wants to lose.
T - Just got the info you can cash out 1 $25K note or less before your appointment, per WF.
T - They also reitereated this morning that the phone number for the group will ask for your name, email address, phone number, set up your account and then bring you in, have you sign the NDA then they give you the rate. At the appointment they will count your money and put it in your account. Everything else will be handled by your wealth manager.
T - I'm not trying to influence you but I don't like the way they went about this. This is just one bank and I don't have into on the other banks, their processes, etc.
T - Supposedly this afternoon they are waiting for it again, but they got the memo they could start passing out the pamphlets this evening after the announcement this afternoon, only if somebody comes in the bank (WF) and asks for it. They will then give the 800#. Another bank in NC (a smaller bank) also has their pamphlets, too.
T - They came to an agreement, but there are 2 things yet to be done. Everybody is trying to come out looking like a winner and present it so nobody looks like a loser. We also heard that in Iraq to expect something this weekend. There is a media blackout there and a lot of news people there waiting for a major announcement. That coincides with what we're hearing for this evening and tomorrow - so hopefully this is really it.
T - An hour ago we were told the green light is on. The 800#s will be released and I've heard the last 3-4 days that they're going to send me (and other boards) those 800#s for posting on the boards. Personally I thought it was kinda funny but our guys in DC said they're going to send those 800#s to several boards to get the word out. I just found out today they are really involved with our boards.
T - The $6, $12, $18 was a problem and China would not actually use the IQD, then oil credits for China. The only way they could get them was through a group in Reno. The Admiral group in Reno I have confidence in. I know for a fact that the Chinese families are not happy with how some other groups are being done or portrayed and DC wasn't happy either. There is really only 1 Admiral (Bob) and he's definitely a good guy.
T - I'm telling you what I can tell you, although not everything. I have been or will be authorized to expose everything to you at some point. If this doesn't happen in a timely manner I will be authorized to do this.
Q&A FROM CHAT ROOM STARTS NOW.....
Q - What about reserves? A - When you go with your appt they're going to take what you have right now. Don't know how they'll handle reserves.
Q - Based on intel do we expect activity over the weekend if we don't see it today? A - Yes I do.
Q - Best timeframes? All banks closed or open? A - The next opportunity for it go will actually go. The 5-6 hours is now and the banks have brought in their people with extra security. They're prepared for it later today.
Q - What is WF management most concerned about now? A - They are concerned about your guys not following the procedures they've set up. They don't want the banks flooded or mass hysteria.
Q - Where does the number 3M come from? A - 2 years ago I was told there was 600,00 dinarians. If people gift then you have 3M. The numbers have skyrocketed.
Q - Backwall date? A - 10/17. I hope we don't go to that.
Q - VND in the basket? A - Yes, still in the basket with a good rate.
T - the rate is good for only 30 days and they will cut it off in 30 days.
Q - Will the bank know the new symbols? A - the banks will know the new symbols as soon as this happens, but you have to ask for it. You need to go in and ask for the right symbol and they are supposed to give that to you (higher rates).
Q - Thoughts about the relationship between the shutdown and GCR. A - This came out of DC: one thing they don't want is the general public to know we're involved in this, and that politicians became mult-millionaires because of the war.
Q - Any negotiation on the VND? A - yes, if you know the higher rate they have to give it to you.
Q - IQN vs. IQN, etc. vice-presidents of banks are saying there are no symbols like that. A - VPs are not privy to all info. People involved directly and are authorized to see it ar seeing it. It's still not public knowledge. People in Cash-in and call centers see it. Don't worry about it.
T - this is off subject, but banks do sweep accounts and they're not going to give that to you. Banks use this to ask for money and make 10%/month in interest. They will not give this to you. They can give you other benefits and investment opportunities. Not every banker knows how sweep accounts work.
T - There is a bank VP on our bank who will help with that under Banking Strategies in the Forum.
LIVE Q&A STARTING NOW....
C - high will we know what the higher rate is to negotiate if we don't know what it is? T - you can rely on some of your other members. Remember the mouse/cheese story - don't be the first in. I will help as much as I can but I can't give you the ceiling rate, but I can give you a rate above that.
[FLPatriot59] C - Can we cash-in the VND at anytime? T - yes, no 800# is associated with the VND. You can use that to payoff reserve, but not everybody has VND.
C - When will those pamphlets be passed out? T - What I was told this morning is that as soon as they're given the "go" they can pass those out.
C - What is the last VND rate? T - $2.67 or $2.76 is what I've heard.
C - who is this "bad, bad man" mentioned on the boards yesterday? T - It's not Obama, as he's been our biggest advocate.
C - Do you think it's going to be today? T - I thought it was going to be yesterday. All different sources were saying the same thing, trying to get it done before another ego gets involved. It could go this afternoon, especially since Iraq has announced in their media.
C - Was on another site and your pic and full name and your ex-partner's name with an icon saying caution. Thought it was very interesting. They are wasting a lot of their energy trying to get you. So, somewhere in between you hearing and going to the bank you will text us, right? T - Yes. I can text from my phone but it will take a little time to set up a call.
C - Are you planning to still let Okie make the announcement? T - Yes, he should get that honor. The plan is for us to receive those 800#s (along with other boards) that will be used to push it out.
C - Is there a particular time we should be looking for? T - 2-5PM and 11PM-2AM. We know it's there. The numbers have been changed, the agreements with China and the groups are real and done, the group in Reno is real, they're not too thrilled how they were portrayed, there absolutely is a list in DC of folks who will be prosecuted after th RV (and my name is not on it). They know who took advantage of you and who didn't.
C - Anything about taxes? T - There is nothing in law yet. The bank will NOT be taking anything out for taxes. They didn't break it down by the higher rate. My suggestion is to set aside 50% for taxes. It's up in the air right now.
T - If you told me 11% vs. 55%, there must be something in the middle. I was initially told 1-2%, so I don't know how it's cominig out. When in doubt, get the money!
T - If you told me 11% vs. 55%, there must be something in the middle. I was initially told 1-2%, so I don't know how it's coming out. When in doubt, get the money!
C - Many on the boards are saying the symbols (IQN vs IQD) don't matter. T - Say IQN and you can't go wrong. Why take a chance?
C - Some guy named TBOne was talking on the boards about 3:47PM this afternoon as a special time in history. T - It's certainly in the window today.
C - How long can we go on without something else happens to stop this? T - I can't pass this along to you, but this morning I was told if it continues on that I'll get info to pass on to you that would stop this.
C - Are expecting Iraq to make a special announcement then Maliki would be gone in 30 days? T - He has longer time than that.
C - Is there a longer timeframe than 30 days that the currency would be good and valid? T - initially it was only for 30 days over there. Internationally, I'm hearing today that even if it's past 30 days you'll get the lowest rate possible.
C - What's going on with Jamie Dimon? T - According to what I heard he just stepped down and he's not a part of it. He may be one of the crooked guys.
C - You mentioned an event 30-days post RV and then you mentioned the rate good for 30 days? T - The event I talked about was Syria, which has passed. The rate is good for 30 days still.
C - Seems like with such a high rate there is a catch? T - you get more money, the gov't gets more money, we are the new middle class and we get to grow from there. There is nothing new about giving you money.
C - Is the POTUS using this as leverage to get what he wants with Congress and the debt ceiling. T - The debt ceiling is done and Boehner has said he will not hold up the debt ceiling. Is he (POTUS) using it for other things? Yes, he's using it to get more to do the programs he wants, rebuilding our country, raise the debt ceiling even if we're going to have a surplus. We have money now than people ever imagined to wipe out the deficit. Every president and administration has had this but they'd have to rob al the piggy banks and then put the money back. Instead, they play with this one charge account they have.
C - A guy named Blackbird said on Recaps that China was ticked off about the rate. Are we the only country getting the high rate? T - Yes, what I said was it's about getting oil. Our rate was raised higher as part of those negotiations yesterday. It was Chinese "individuals" who flew over here Tuesday/Wednesday to negotiate. There are levels above the gov't.
T - A bunch of people were paid a lot of money/exchanged between countries to let this go. On Sunday it was $10T, on Wednesday it was $300T.
C - Any word on the Rupiah? T - Yesterday it was $1.08 It fluctuates like everything else.
C - I got an email on Wednesday from KCMana that says something about Generals64/Studley. I did not give anyone my email address and this really upsets met. T - When you call the 800#, they're going to ask your name, email and how much dinar you have. If you didn't give that group your name, then don't call their number (WF). Call the other basic bank number. If you deal with WF, use a totally different/new email address.
T - I don't know how they're getting your emails because we didn't share it. C - I did give it to PTR and to Okie's site. T- Well then that's how they got it, through Okie's site.
C - How do we avoid paying a spread? T - The banks will be loaning out your money up to 10 times and they will make money off your money. Nightly they'll sweep accounts and make money. So tell them you don't want to pay the fees. Tell them if they won't waive then walk out. They've been told not to let you walk out with your money.
C - Will the FINcen forms be provided or do we need to bring one with us? T - The banks will providing them.
C - what happens when the RV pops and shows up at CBI and their rate shows 3.44 or 3.86, even though we have a higher rate? T - I don't know, it doesn't make sense to show $25.87. I've talked to the contractor's boss who owns the company who is telling us they got paid $25.87. I don't know what it will show on CBI. No one has told me. If every other country sees that rate it would make sense for the 30 days Iraq would see that rate as well.
C - There's no way the Iraqi citizens could get the $25.87, if it's an international rate showing up on Forex. T - If you're living in Iraq and it takes $25.87 USD to equal one of your dinar - why would you want the USD?
C - How will the debt being wiped out due to the GCR be shown? T - It will be explained that the debt ceiling was raised, we instituted some new programs. new jobs, other reasons. It won't be instantly - 6-8 months down the road it will show how our debt was being paid down. They know there's enough money back there but they still have to operate in fron of 350M other people. The budget number has been agreed to and reduced by $90B. It's not about the budget, it's about the other stuff. Something else is going on that people really don't want to see. It's not about the budget or the debt ceiling. That's why they announced there will be no argument about the debt ceiling.
C - When the RV happens, will the politicians allow a clean CR to go through? T - If it hasn't been worked out it will be soon, even if it takes us all the way to the 17th. There is nothing else to do. It'll be hurting a lot of people.
T - Okay, that's all for today. I shared a lot of information and I know some of you didn't get it all and some did. In the last 48 hours we've gotten the green light twice. Today is a shorter period of time - we don't have to wait for the ink to dry and allow for a period of time for them to renege. The banks have been notified to be in this afternoon and that they'll be working this weekend. Final training and procedures were reviewed this morning (from just 1 of the banks we talked with). It should be a great day. Hope we don't have to wait for tomorrow. Other boards will have information. See if it fits into your picture. You should only be missing one piece of your puzzle and hopefully today we'll find that one.
END OF CALL.
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